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On October 10 2011 12:19 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:17 ClysmiC wrote:On October 10 2011 12:14 flojito wrote:On October 10 2011 12:10 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 12:06 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 12:02 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 12:00 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 11:58 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 11:56 ODieN wrote:
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False, "3-0" isn't a coinflip regardless who's winning, 1-1/2-2/3-3 would be coinflips. Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0 or 0-3, so... 12,5% chance for a 3-0 if it's completely random and each player has an 50% to counter the other's build Hence 25% for 3-0 or 0-3  nope... 12,5% for one player winning 3-0, it's not counted separately Yup, so there's 25% chance of either 3-0 or 0-3. do you really not understand? there is 50% chance that 1 player will counter the other in 1 match in 1 match if we flip the coins, there is 25% chance that they'll be both heads, 25% both tails and 50% for heads-tails- that includes both cases you're mentioning. with the same logic it's 50%*50%*50% in three matches, all possible outcomes included that's 12,5% not 25% You are completely misunderstanding the other guy's point. He is saying that, if we assume that a ZvZ really is a coinflip, there is 25% chance that one of the two players will be up 3-0 after three games. This is 100% true.Here is a more concrete example. Suppose that we say that the games between Lucky and Stephano were just coinflips (I know they weren't and Lucky got outplayed, but just assume that for now). Then there is a 12.5% chance that Stephano wins the first 3 games, and a 12.5% chance that Lucky wins the first 3 games. That means there is a 12.5% + 12.5% = 25% chance that one of the two will be up 3-0. Correct. Think of it like this: Bo1 has 100% chance of someone winning 1-0 Bo3 has 50% chance of someone winning 2-0 Bo5 has 25% chance of someone winning 3-0 The games are not independent. After losing a game or two a player may just play worse, therefore increasing the chances of a shutout.
Read the whole nested conversation please. We are calculating odds under the assumption that ZvZ is a "pure coinflip"
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On October 10 2011 12:16 Novalisk wrote:
I can't believe this kid plays only 3 hours a day. He was probably exaggerating when he said that.
Not at all.
He streams everytime and plays from ~8PM to ~23PM. When he plays too much, he loses (I quote him).
Before going to med school he takes this year to play SC2 then goes back to school.
He just doesn't care more than that. It's just a game he's good at.
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On October 10 2011 12:19 sirreginold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 10 2011 12:16 kakaman wrote:So how much of that money is going to Complexity  none, that matter is settled Pretty sure Mill will dock some pay off Stephano to pay for whatever they had to give to coL
well Stephano was supposed to pay the fine anyways
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On October 10 2011 12:19 hugman wrote:
People already hard at work trying to discredit Stephano's accomplishment
Just shut up for once
agreed. I wasn't the biggest fan of Stephano before this, but he was just a beast. How can you not be impressed?
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I'm eager to see Korean netizen reactions...
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On October 10 2011 12:20 yawnoC wrote:
WAIT A MINUTE
ZvZ is stephanos WORST!? match up according to him...
I call bullshit.
Idk but I'm making banelings from now on...
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IPL:
Epic tournament. Epic games. Epic players. Epic music. Epic casting. Epic CONTENT. Epic covering for broken internet. Epic women.
I'm going to be really fucking sad that IPL 4 is such a long ways away.
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holy shit just got back. missed finals
stephano 4-0 lucky to win IPL
O.O
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On October 10 2011 12:15 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:14 Ownos wrote:Stephano takes IPL3 with 10+ Koreans attending. Lucky goes further then he ever expected and surprised so many people. Inori upsets and shows amazing PvP. Both going farther than they thought. WhiteRa warp prism special tactics. Terran too good. And Justin Wong takes 2 championships at Devastation.  ESPORTS You are seriously forgetting TheStC? He did better than any expected too. :p
Heyheyhey I can't remember all the epic story lines going on in this tournament, ok?
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On October 10 2011 12:17 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote:On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote:
Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament... haters gonna hate. online means nothing, sorry
Why are you so ignorant?
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On October 10 2011 12:18 PhyreHazard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:17 Ruscour wrote:On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote:On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote:
Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament... haters gonna hate. online means nothing, sorry Your whining doesn't mean anything either, sorry
Actually it does. Here's Nestea's quote when asked about playing online.
"I don’t think I can do online. I don’t want to give any excuses, but I get really angry at the lag. Because of the lag, I don’t think I want to be in any online tournament in the future. It causes me a lot of stress without a lot of payoff."
Interview was done right after a GSL match. There is a reason that Nestea refuses to participate in online tournaments.
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On October 10 2011 12:19 hugman wrote:
People already hard at work trying to discredit Stephano's accomplishment
Just shut up for once
Would you rather this thread be covered with people saying Mvp can't touch Stephano? Because it was like that for a long ass time, bro.
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On October 10 2011 12:20 cyclone25 wrote:
Stephano has flawless play, best player in the world by far (maybe Mvp is close to him).
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AWESOME TOURNAMENT CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE
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Stephano bringing home some cash to the foreign scene, awesome. Orlando is gonna be crazy but IPL3 was definitely the best tournament I've ever seen entertainment-wise, if only they didnt have that crazy guy with the fake accent doing that horrible skit....
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On October 10 2011 12:17 ClysmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:14 flojito wrote:On October 10 2011 12:10 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 12:06 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 12:02 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 12:00 msjakofsky wrote:On October 10 2011 11:58 Daniel C wrote:On October 10 2011 11:56 ODieN wrote:On October 10 2011 11:54 Necro)Phagist( wrote:[quote] lol a foreigner is winning, of course its not a coin flip now if Lucky was up 3-0 this thread would be filled with complaints about ZvZ coin flip etc. False, "3-0" isn't a coinflip regardless who's winning, 1-1/2-2/3-3 would be coinflips. Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0 or 0-3, so... 12,5% chance for a 3-0 if it's completely random and each player has an 50% to counter the other's build Hence 25% for 3-0 or 0-3 nope... 12,5% for one player winning 3-0, it's not counted separately Yup, so there's 25% chance of either 3-0 or 0-3. do you really not understand? there is 50% chance that 1 player will counter the other in 1 match in 1 match if we flip the coins, there is 25% chance that they'll be both heads, 25% both tails and 50% for heads-tails- that includes both cases you're mentioning. with the same logic it's 50%*50%*50% in three matches, all possible outcomes included that's 12,5% not 25% You are completely misunderstanding the other guy's point. He is saying that, if we assume that a ZvZ really is a coinflip, there is 25% chance that one of the two players will be up 3-0 after three games. This is 100% true.Here is a more concrete example. Suppose that we say that the games between Lucky and Stephano were just coinflips (I know they weren't and Lucky got outplayed, but just assume that for now). Then there is a 12.5% chance that Stephano wins the first 3 games, and a 12.5% chance that Lucky wins the first 3 games. That means there is a 12.5% + 12.5% = 25% chance that one of the two will be up 3-0. Correct. Think of it like this: Bo1 has 100% chance of someone winning 1-0 Bo3 has 50% chance of someone winning 2-0 Bo5 has 25% chance of someone winning 3-0
that's true but i made it clear that i'm talking about the chances of one player out-coinflipping the other 3 times in a row since someone wrote "Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0" which is not true.
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Great Great Great production IPL. I must say that was a pleasure to watch. The outro music with Stephano standing on stage holding up his trophy brought chills across my body and almost made me shed a tear. So epic. Stephano is the man. Grats.
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On October 10 2011 12:19 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:18 Gorlin wrote:On October 10 2011 12:16 Tewks44 wrote:On October 10 2011 12:16 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote:
Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. yea lol so easy... so easy every other pro went down to his opponents Stephano beat MMA, your argument is invalid In the finals of the qualifier, which meant literally nothing. what is your problem? He beat the players that beat these so called better players... your arguments are embarrasing
If I beat MVP I will be the best player in the world right? Since he beat everyone before.
(I'm not taking any credit away from Stephano he damn good.)
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On October 10 2011 12:18 mcc wrote:
It seems like top EU is right now heavily zerg dominated. I would call top 6 EU : Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Dimaga, ThorZain, Mana + White-ra for his recent PvZ and PvP form (he needs to get his PvT to more stable situation, takes even more risks than in other MUs).
have to remember guys like sase, nani, sjow, demuslim, socke, europe is deep man
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