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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
ticktack
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4021
On October 10 2011 02:03 wklbishop wrote:
Wow, that explains the extractor trick usage... I really had no idea.

I wasn't paying much attention. what did they say about it?
A winner is just a loser who got pissed off and tried harder
Ises
Profile Joined October 2011
131 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4022
On October 10 2011 02:02 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip


Just because Ret was very greedy and had a BO loss doesn't make it a coinflip match-up...

If a protoss went Nexus Nexus gate and lost to early marine pressure would you call it a coinflip?

Hell ZvZ is almost the least coinflippy match-up because both players can see most of the map and it is the match-up with by far the easiest scouting available.


exactly ^^
the only thing that's volatile is the larva mechanism but even then you can scout your opponent most of the time with ovies or lings.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4023
On October 10 2011 02:04 Jomppa wrote:
lucky is pretty lucky

Not really. It was all mindgames.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4024
Somehow Lucky's ID seems very fitting when looking at the build orders used by both players these two games =P
babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4025
On October 10 2011 02:04 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:02 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:01 StyLeD wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip

ZvZ is nowhere near a coin flip match


ZvZ is coinflip genius.


No it's not.
If you want to play super greedy then sure it can be

15 hatch beats 14 pool, 14 pool beats 10 pool, 10 pool beats 15 hatch, i guess its more like rock-paper-scissors than coinflip


14 pool can beat 15 hatch
15 hatch can beat 10 pool as well

it's all dependent on skill level
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4026
Love ret fans blaming it 100% on BO.
Everyone knows ret almost always plays extremly greedy, and most of his losses are from that aswell.

If he could just play safer he would be 100% fine.
Rets droning kills him alot.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4027
On October 10 2011 02:01 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:00 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip

ZvZ is nowhere near a coin flip match


ZvZ is coinflip genius.


I disagree. It's coinflip if you do something like 6pool, and hope that your opponent doesn't scout.

Or hatch first and hope your opponent doesn't scout.

But if you do a safer, middle-of-the-line 14/14, gas then pool, pool then gas, pool into FE or anything like that, Yes, you could be at a slight disadvantage to a hatch first, but you can just play a little more defensive and be safe.

It's not as ridiculous as everyone here pretends that it is.
moose...indian
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12814 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4028
zvz isn't coin flip, nestea has 9x% win rate, you need to be very lucky to get 9x% in a coin flip matchup
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4029
On October 10 2011 02:02 babo213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:01 StyLeD wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip

ZvZ is nowhere near a coin flip match


ZvZ is coinflip genius.


No it's not.
If you want to play super greedy then sure it can be


Yeah, it reallly is. A lot of ZvZs (like that last one) are build order losses.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4030
The power of mindgameing!
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4031
as a terran
im learing a lot by these 2 mirror from FXO
-Terran-
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4032
if ZvZ is a coinflip. I want the coins Nerchio and Nestea are flipping.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4033
On October 10 2011 02:04 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:02 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:01 StyLeD wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip

ZvZ is nowhere near a coin flip match


ZvZ is coinflip genius.


No it's not.
If you want to play super greedy then sure it can be

15 hatch beats 14 pool, 14 pool beats 10 pool, 10 pool beats 15 hatch, i guess its more like rock-paper-scissors than coinflip

That's more like rock-paper-scissors-spock-lizard.
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
October 09 2011 17:04 GMT
#4034
Artosis and his curse :/ it's too strong.
Only curse stronger is mr chai's but only if there's a huge underdog.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4035
On October 10 2011 02:04 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:02 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:01 StyLeD wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 babo213 wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote:
Coin flip match up is coin flip

ZvZ is nowhere near a coin flip match


ZvZ is coinflip genius.


No it's not.
If you want to play super greedy then sure it can be

15 hatch beats 14 pool, 14 pool beats 10 pool, 10 pool beats 15 hatch, i guess its more like rock-paper-scissors than coinflip


15hatch doesn't beat 14pool :/
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4036
I'm pretty sure a majority of BW fans viewed ZvZ as essentially a conflip matchup until Jaedong started winning 90% of his games while doing crazy shit like defending hatch first vs. 9-pool with sick drone micro.
✌
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4037
On October 10 2011 01:56 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 01:55 mengsk83 wrote:
On October 10 2011 01:53 Plexa wrote:
On October 10 2011 01:52 Raisauce wrote:
On October 10 2011 01:51 Plexa wrote:
On October 10 2011 01:50 Caesarion wrote:
On October 10 2011 01:49 Grettin wrote:
Also:

djWHEAT djWHEAT
Casting with @dApollo1337 at 2PM EDT with Puma/MMA, StC/IdrA, Stephano/Inori, and more! #IPL3


Great news. They're by far my favorite combo.

Oh god.. does this imply that HD/Pain will finish off the tournament =[


Yes, it's already confirmed

[image loading]


Whats up with the caster bashing?
It's not bashing when its the truth.

I'll be saving this post, I'll need to reference it in the future.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4038
oh god, it's time for some Lucky blings
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4039
lol zvz is a coinflip match, nestea must have some godly coin then.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#4040
This looks bad for ret
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