EPT[IPL] Day 4 Live Report Thread (Final Day) - Page 203
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:02 Chewbacca. wrote: Just because Ret was very greedy and had a BO loss doesn't make it a coinflip match-up... If a protoss went Nexus Nexus gate and lost to early marine pressure would you call it a coinflip? Hell ZvZ is almost the least coinflippy match-up because both players can see most of the map and it is the match-up with by far the easiest scouting available. Honestly, the people who say ZvZ is coinflip are either A) People who aren't Zerg. or B) People who aren't very good at ZvZ. u sure you havent played TvT, scan is rather good for scouting...its a very straightforward macro matchup atm, ZvZ you can straight up die like that very early on like that | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:04 babo213 wrote: 14 pool can beat 15 hatch 15 hatch can beat 10 pool as well it's all dependent on skill level which is pretty similar at quarter finals you know... so no, bo wins are pretty often | ||
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:04 leungwk01 wrote: Artosis and his curse :/ it's too strong. Only curse stronger is mr chai's but only if there's a huge underdog. Blizzard needs to nerf the Curse of Artosis next patch for sure, breaking the game. T_T | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:04 StyLeD wrote: Yeah it is. Don't just wrap your ass around RetvZ. This is ZvZ in general. I could go on forever. What are you talking about? | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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Rinny
United States616 Posts
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jazzyjazz
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:03 Adreme wrote: Bah lucky has gotten the right call on coin flip twice in a row. Not really. Both were good meta-game guesses on his part. Game 1: He knows Ret is a greedy macro player from watching his games. That Ret would greed on a map like Tal Darim is pretty likely -> 10 pool. Game 2: He knows that Ret won't likely play greedy again, after losing to his 10 pool in the first game -> hatch first. | ||
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ALPINA
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Apom
France656 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:01 Flanq wrote: He really isn't though, PU is a masters terran player, apollo is a masters random player, who prides himself on filling up notepads with info about every single player and each of their match ups and their subtle nuances. Yeah, PainUser is a good Terran player, but Apollo is probably the best analytic caster there is (I'll concede a tie with Artosis - not Day9, who is even greater at analysis, but needs to stop saying "oh no" all the time over Husky/Wheat to reach that level of greatness in casting). | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:03 Acrofales wrote: Lol... now Ret once again at the wrong side of a B.O :S ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/TSL3/Artosis_popup.png) | ||
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greatZERG
Australia755 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:05 JWD wrote: I'm pretty sure a majority of BW fans viewed ZvZ as essentially a conflip matchup until Jaedong started winning 90% of his games while doing crazy shit like defending hatch first vs. 9-pool with sick drone micro. ZvZ in SC2 is nowhere near as much of a coinflip as it was mid-bw, no idea why people are complaining. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:04 ticktack wrote: I wasn't paying much attention. what did they say about it? You get an extra early drone to help defend against when the 6/7 pool hits for that tiny timing. | ||
euroboy
Sweden536 Posts
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vincom2
Singapore1775 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:05 JWD wrote: I'm pretty sure a majority of BW fans viewed ZvZ as essentially a conflip matchup until Jaedong started winning 90% of his games while doing crazy shit like defending hatch first vs. 9-pool with sick drone micro. Anomaly, doesn't count  | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:05 Nivity wrote: lol zvz is a coinflip match, nestea must have some godly coin then. And stephano...and nerchio...and dimaga... yeah its not a coinflip imo | ||
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vincom2
Singapore1775 Posts
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