EPTOn October 10 2011 01:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
ret so good!
ret so good!
I lol'd!
But anyways, hope he does somewhat better this next match, or there's more Goliath vs DeathWhatever up next...
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
I lol'd! But anyways, hope he does somewhat better this next match, or there's more Goliath vs DeathWhatever up next... | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
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daxile
Canada829 Posts
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
Well zvz build order is a coinflip. If you know what's your opponent is doing you can always make a batter opening. | ||
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dave333
United States915 Posts
I find it hard to say ZvZ is truly a coinflip when you have a guy like Nestea that literally wins 80, 90% of his ZvZs. | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
Even BW zvz is not rock paper scissor. You need to know how to defend/attack each build correctly. That's greedy by ret though. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:00 snow2.0 wrote: greed loss. blind hatch first, then gas before pool, drones all the time... well. Rets good at making drones, as everybody knows. His opponent too, i guess. Well Ret's build is designed to get a huge lead on normal hatch first builds and safer builds. It's kinda risky, but it would've paid off in a lot of situations. | ||
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Steak_
United States192 Posts
This man speaks the truth | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On October 10 2011 01:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote: What a skillful matchup is this sarcastic ? | ||
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PapaJed
Sweden211 Posts
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WhurreOdu
Austria1739 Posts
no | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
it is to a certain extent. | ||
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Montana[TK]
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:00 OnlineHero wrote: Yea, ZvZ is pretty stupid most of the time. Nerchio always goes 14 pool and has no problems with 15 hatch, it's not as simple as x>y | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
No it's not. If you want to play super greedy then sure it can be | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:00 Raisauce wrote: Coin flip match up is coin flip Just because Ret was very greedy and had a BO loss doesn't make it a coinflip match-up... If a protoss went Nexus Nexus gate and lost to early marine pressure would you call it a coinflip? Hell ZvZ is almost the least coinflippy match-up because both players can see most of the map and it is the match-up with by far the easiest scouting available. Honestly, the people who say ZvZ is coinflip are either A) People who aren't Zerg. or B) People who aren't very good at ZvZ. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:00 Steak_ wrote: 15 hatch > 14 14 > 10 pool > 15 hatch skillful matchup indeed 14cc > 1rax expand > 1rax gas > proxy barracks > 14cc Your argument applies to every matchup And hell, it was essentially the same in BW with 9pool > 12hatch > 12pool > 9pool | ||
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