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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 08 2011 06:05 GMT
#11001
On October 08 2011 14:43 Wren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:27 DoomsVille wrote:
But what the hell is up with IPL and their map pool and map choices? The finals start on Xel'Naga Fortress

Where do you see that? The playhem page suggests that all maps are available for each game.

Yea all maps are available for each round. Put the first map is always set. And the first map for the finals is Xel'Naga Fortress for some reason. More info on their Reddit page.
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
October 08 2011 06:14 GMT
#11002
Sadly, I was not able to see these games. Why did some of group games not get played?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 08 2011 06:17 GMT
#11003
On October 08 2011 15:14 stipe145 wrote:
Sadly, I was not able to see these games. Why did some of group games not get played?

Epic internet issues. Comcasts network went down all over Atlantic City.

Result: couldn't start the group play until something like 9 pm local time (as oppose to 11 am local time).

Decision: randomize seeds in group c (which all 4 players agreed to) and play out group d.

IdrA also forfeited his remaining matches after getting 2-1ed by white-ra because he was tired/jetlagged.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 08 2011 06:26 GMT
#11004
They should have gone with at&t!

j/k
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
October 08 2011 06:30 GMT
#11005
Any VODs available for the White-Ra matches? =D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 08 2011 06:39 GMT
#11006
What happened with Idra?
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 08 2011 06:40 GMT
#11007
On October 08 2011 14:33 Piledriver wrote:
I think people are overrating PuMa. The only reason he wins TvPs are because of 1-1-1 or metagaming with 1-1-1 and doing a FE build. He's most probably going to get smashed by MC (and probably even by HerO before that).

Yeah, he is so overrated... He only helps guys prepare for the GSL Code S Finals, helps MVP prepare for his most recent GSL match, won NASL not using the 1-1-1 once against MC when MC was arguably the best player in the world (where now he is not), beat MC again at IEM (even in a macro game!).

On October 08 2011 14:52 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Hasn't Puma also been playing in NA? On top of that MC and HerO are two very good protoss players. I know that HerO is more known for his PvZ but if you have seen his stream... well, he's just an amazing player that hasn't even reached his full potential yet. Plus, both him and MC practice on KR... I think they are both capable of holding the 1/1/1.


No, he was in NA for a bit before and after MLG Raleigh, but went back to Korea. And the whole time he was in NA, he was practicing on KR (he helped TOP prepare for GSL Finals at the time too).

And if Thorzain can beat Hero, so can Puma. And Puma's TvP is so much more than the 1-1-1.

Its pretty damn annoying to see people shit on Puma because he will use the 1-1-1 (like every other Korean Terran) sometimes. If he was on Team Liquid and not EG, people would be all over him like they are Hero (who is very good). Puma has insane multitasking and his late game is down right scary. Remember who STC said he didn't want to face in his post game interview? He said Puma. Why? Cause he is fucking good.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 08 2011 06:43 GMT
#11008
Aynone got link to idra vs whitera vods?
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
October 08 2011 07:08 GMT
#11009
On October 08 2011 15:43 Alpina wrote:
Aynone got link to idra vs whitera vods?


All the pool play vods are here.
http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/videos


white-ra vs idra
http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/b/296930871
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 08 2011 07:09 GMT
#11010
Thanks man
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2011 07:25 GMT
#11011
On October 08 2011 14:48 j0ker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:27 DoomsVille wrote:
Honestly this looks pretty good for the EG crew. They have an outside (but realistic) chance of having 4 people reaching the quarterfinals. And there aren't any team kills to worry about.

IdrA vs. Artist and than aLive. Both of them are very realistic wins for IdrA. If he can play like he did against PuMa vs. aLive, he has a strong chance there.

Huk vs. kawaiirice and than white-ra. I'd give the edge to white-ra in this foursome. But huk definitely can take it as well.

DeMuslim vs. Ret and than thorzain. Yea, DeMuslim has it rough. Probably a slight underdog in both. But definitely not a huge underdog in either.

PuMa vs. HerO and than MC. I don't see how he loses to either of them.


But what the hell is up with IPL and their map pool and map choices? The finals start on Xel'Naga Fortress and the map pool includes Crevasse. This tournament is basically set up for a terran to win. There are so many terran favored maps (crevasse, xel'naga fortress, antiga) and the starting maps are nowhere near balanced. If the finals is ZvT, I don't care who the Z and T are, the T will win.


crevasse isnt even remotely terran favored in zvt. zerg gets a free third, map is huge with a ton of easy to take bases for the zerg, terran has a WIDE open 3rd and no 4th, and mutas are a fucking nightmare.


I think Idras first look said it was months ago and people never let it go. Ill be honest I figured it was zerg favorted as well until I saw the winrates for zerg were comparable to belshir beach and dual site.
Deagle
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
October 08 2011 07:34 GMT
#11012
Whitera vs Idra was epic game with special tactics :D
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
October 08 2011 07:40 GMT
#11013
Props to Machine for this run to the championship bracket, he needed to turn in a good result here and this pretty much means he managed to do so regardless of where he places in the actual champ bracket.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 08 2011 07:44 GMT
#11014
On October 08 2011 15:40 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:33 Piledriver wrote:
I think people are overrating PuMa. The only reason he wins TvPs are because of 1-1-1 or metagaming with 1-1-1 and doing a FE build. He's most probably going to get smashed by MC (and probably even by HerO before that).

Yeah, he is so overrated... He only helps guys prepare for the GSL Code S Finals, helps MVP prepare for his most recent GSL match, won NASL not using the 1-1-1 once against MC when MC was arguably the best player in the world (where now he is not), beat MC again at IEM (even in a macro game!).

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:52 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Hasn't Puma also been playing in NA? On top of that MC and HerO are two very good protoss players. I know that HerO is more known for his PvZ but if you have seen his stream... well, he's just an amazing player that hasn't even reached his full potential yet. Plus, both him and MC practice on KR... I think they are both capable of holding the 1/1/1.


No, he was in NA for a bit before and after MLG Raleigh, but went back to Korea. And the whole time he was in NA, he was practicing on KR (he helped TOP prepare for GSL Finals at the time too).

And if Thorzain can beat Hero, so can Puma. And Puma's TvP is so much more than the 1-1-1.

Its pretty damn annoying to see people shit on Puma because he will use the 1-1-1 (like every other Korean Terran) sometimes. If he was on Team Liquid and not EG, people would be all over him like they are Hero (who is very good). Puma has insane multitasking and his late game is down right scary. Remember who STC said he didn't want to face in his post game interview? He said Puma. Why? Cause he is fucking good.


in my opinion mc is a better player overall than puma, but i think puma's tvp is very scary...

but to be honest, in the last bo3 they played puma 1-1-1'd him twice out of three games, in the 1st game he all ined twice after mc held the initial allin, and wore him down with marines. this was in the time when protoss was 100% helpless vs 1-1-1. mc even tried to hide an expo hoping puma won't notice it. not saying that these weren't legit wins, but in macro games they're very even and puma wins most of his tvp games with gimmicky all-in builds.
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
October 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#11015
Is there anything more to Idras forfeit I don't know other then him being a diva? I don't care how useless you think this pool play is, if you go to the tournament you play the fucking games. I wish this would at least have some concequences but probably not...
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
October 08 2011 07:55 GMT
#11016
Damn WHITE RA WAS AWESOME!!! And people felt he would go last in his group.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 07:57:22
October 08 2011 07:56 GMT
#11017
EDIT:WrongThread
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 08 2011 08:05 GMT
#11018
On October 08 2011 16:50 Copenap wrote:
Is there anything more to Idras forfeit I don't know other then him being a diva? I don't care how useless you think this pool play is, if you go to the tournament you play the fucking games. I wish this would at least have some concequences but probably not...


He was apparently sleeping on his keyboard before the his WhiteRa match.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#11019
On October 08 2011 16:44 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 15:40 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 08 2011 14:33 Piledriver wrote:
I think people are overrating PuMa. The only reason he wins TvPs are because of 1-1-1 or metagaming with 1-1-1 and doing a FE build. He's most probably going to get smashed by MC (and probably even by HerO before that).

Yeah, he is so overrated... He only helps guys prepare for the GSL Code S Finals, helps MVP prepare for his most recent GSL match, won NASL not using the 1-1-1 once against MC when MC was arguably the best player in the world (where now he is not), beat MC again at IEM (even in a macro game!).

On October 08 2011 14:52 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Hasn't Puma also been playing in NA? On top of that MC and HerO are two very good protoss players. I know that HerO is more known for his PvZ but if you have seen his stream... well, he's just an amazing player that hasn't even reached his full potential yet. Plus, both him and MC practice on KR... I think they are both capable of holding the 1/1/1.


No, he was in NA for a bit before and after MLG Raleigh, but went back to Korea. And the whole time he was in NA, he was practicing on KR (he helped TOP prepare for GSL Finals at the time too).

And if Thorzain can beat Hero, so can Puma. And Puma's TvP is so much more than the 1-1-1.

Its pretty damn annoying to see people shit on Puma because he will use the 1-1-1 (like every other Korean Terran) sometimes. If he was on Team Liquid and not EG, people would be all over him like they are Hero (who is very good). Puma has insane multitasking and his late game is down right scary. Remember who STC said he didn't want to face in his post game interview? He said Puma. Why? Cause he is fucking good.


in my opinion mc is a better player overall than puma, but i think puma's tvp is very scary...

but to be honest, in the last bo3 they played puma 1-1-1'd him twice out of three games, in the 1st game he all ined twice after mc held the initial allin, and wore him down with marines. this was in the time when protoss was 100% helpless vs 1-1-1. mc even tried to hide an expo hoping puma won't notice it. not saying that these weren't legit wins, but in macro games they're very even and puma wins most of his tvp games with gimmicky all-in builds.

Not really... The only all in he does in TvP is the 1-1-1. He only used the 1-1-1 once in each series vs Hasu and vs JYP and didn't drop a game to either of them.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
October 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#11020
On October 08 2011 17:05 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 16:50 Copenap wrote:
Is there anything more to Idras forfeit I don't know other then him being a diva? I don't care how useless you think this pool play is, if you go to the tournament you play the fucking games. I wish this would at least have some concequences but probably not...


He was apparently sleeping on his keyboard before the his WhiteRa match.


I hope this is really the reason, eventhough he himself is responsible to be in a good shape.
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