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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
October 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#5361
well I guess since he's got his 50K he can retire now.
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
October 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#5362
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
October 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#5363
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:



No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


There have allways been a million post about it the players sayd they cant hear a thing only the crowd screaming
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:44:35
October 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#5364
On October 24 2011 01:34 trucane wrote:
Seriously it's the electronic sports world cup of course national anthems is appropriate. Also MVP and Nestea had every possibility to play for their country so don't whine that France and stephano is the world champion in starcraft 2.


I would not call him "the" world champion. He is just "a" world champion, besides Sjow (IesF), Ace (IEM WC) and MVP (GSL WC). If there is a "the world champion", it would have to be MVP, because the GSL is the one organisation, who has the biggest legitimacy (Don´t know, if this word exists in english in that way) to crown the world champion.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:43:20
October 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#5365
On October 24 2011 01:38 Apom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:30 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
IMO (Bring on the hate) the only person that can match Stephano for the raw and sick talent crown is LucifroN, both are scary for the amount they play (Minus Stephano's last few months as 'Not playing much' ofc but he was still scary before that)


we shouldnt overrate his " I dont play much", for some people it's better to play 4 hours a day and for some its 10, playing more doesnt mean you're automatically better. And as long Lucifron doesn't show results he wont be acknowledged ( yeah I know he's quite good)

You can watch any show (SotG, ItG, whatever) and literally all the pros there say you have to train 8-10 hours a day in Korea to be the best. Stephano is kind of slapping them in the face, but honestly he is the very one exception.


i agree, it also depends on how you train, if you train like a brainless robot 12 hours per day i dont think it will match someone who make his best to have a deep understanding of the strategies, finding ways to improve, learn build weaknesses blabla ... 4 hours/day.
Trigger1101
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden80 Posts
October 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#5366
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6rKpiKJZ4

No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


Be careful, i said the same thing but got banned.
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
October 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#5367
On October 24 2011 01:41 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:34 trucane wrote:
Seriously it's the electronic sports world cup of course national anthems is appropriate. Also MVP and Nestea had every possibility to play for their country so don't whine that France and stephano is the world champion in starcraft 2.


I would not call him "the" world champion. He is just "a" world champion, besides Sjow (IesF), Ace (IEM WC) and MVP (GSL WC). If there is a "the world champion", it would have to be MVP, because the GSL is the one organisation, who has the biggest legitimacy (Don´t know, if this word exists in english in that way) to crown the world champion.


MVP is most likely the best player in the world yes but he didn't take the opportunity to partake in this ESWC and thus he gave up the change to become world champion of Starcraft 2. It's not like it would be the first time in the world someone is the WC of something despite not being the actual best player
Lord Vetinari
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway51 Posts
October 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#5368
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6rKpiKJZ4

No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


Did you actually watch any of the games? Stephano lost his Lair to a warp prism for fuck's sake! If he was earhacking he was doing a horrible job at it...

Also, I feel that Mana would be able to hear the word "baneling" enough times to prepare better for the bust in game three if they could actually hear the casters.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#5369
TO THE BANK!
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
October 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#5370
On October 24 2011 01:41 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6rKpiKJZ4

No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


There have allways been a million post about it the players sayd they cant hear a thing only the crowd screaming


Ok, fair enough.. just had a flashback to LAN79 (french LAN) where it was fairly obvious that french teams could hear the shoutcasters (they were put really close to each other).. but hearing the crowd in itself is a huge thing.. and pretty badly done by ESWC
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:46:25
October 23 2011 16:45 GMT
#5371
players use plane headphones, eswc is old school event since 10 years ago with massive crowd and casters and never a problem with others games like counter.strike, quake or wacraft
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#5372
On October 24 2011 01:44 trucane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:41 Xoronius wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:34 trucane wrote:
Seriously it's the electronic sports world cup of course national anthems is appropriate. Also MVP and Nestea had every possibility to play for their country so don't whine that France and stephano is the world champion in starcraft 2.


I would not call him "the" world champion. He is just "a" world champion, besides Sjow (IesF), Ace (IEM WC) and MVP (GSL WC). If there is a "the world champion", it would have to be MVP, because the GSL is the one organisation, who has the biggest legitimacy (Don´t know, if this word exists in english in that way) to crown the world champion.


MVP is most likely the best player in the world yes but he didn't take the opportunity to partake in this ESWC and thus he gave up the change to become world champion of Starcraft 2. It's not like it would be the first time in the world someone is the WC of something despite not being the actual best player


I just created a the world series of starcraft 2. I won it. Because I won it after Stephano, I am the current, reigning, and defending world champion of SC2. All comers were welcome to my tourney, but nobody showed up, so I'm the baddest man on the planet.
rekoJ
Profile Joined June 2011
Afghanistan106 Posts
October 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#5373
On October 24 2011 01:42 Trigger1101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6rKpiKJZ4

No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


Be careful, i said the same thing but got banned.

Damn stop it

The fourth game against mana, stephano put an early baneling nest, the crowd just got mad, the shoutcasters did scream baneling nest!
Yeah they said baneling nest in english
Mana didn't hear a thing, and if he did, he wasn't able to understand it.
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
October 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#5374
Funny how the 2nd place prize pool is 2times bigger than MLG 1st
Si vis pacem para bellum
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
October 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#5375
On October 24 2011 01:44 trucane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:41 Xoronius wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:34 trucane wrote:
Seriously it's the electronic sports world cup of course national anthems is appropriate. Also MVP and Nestea had every possibility to play for their country so don't whine that France and stephano is the world champion in starcraft 2.


I would not call him "the" world champion. He is just "a" world champion, besides Sjow (IesF), Ace (IEM WC) and MVP (GSL WC). If there is a "the world champion", it would have to be MVP, because the GSL is the one organisation, who has the biggest legitimacy (Don´t know, if this word exists in english in that way) to crown the world champion.


MVP is most likely the best player in the world yes but he didn't take the opportunity to partake in this ESWC and thus he gave up the change to become world champion of Starcraft 2. It's not like it would be the first time in the world someone is the WC of something despite not being the actual best player


MVP won the "GSL world campionship". How is he not the world champion? Just because some organisation declares their tournament to a "World championship", it isn´t one automaticly.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 23 2011 16:47 GMT
#5376
On October 24 2011 01:38 Apom wrote:
You can watch any show (SotG, ItG, whatever) and literally all the pros there say you have to train 8-10 hours a day in Korea to be the best. Stephano is kind of slapping them in the face, but honestly he is the very one exception.

You can watch IPL and hear Stephano saying that he doesn't do anything besides SC2 atm :p

Not only training, but analyzing reps/thinking about strats etc.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
October 23 2011 16:47 GMT
#5377
Any interviews?
I'm actually suprised there aren't one o_0
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
October 23 2011 16:47 GMT
#5378
On October 24 2011 01:42 Trigger1101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but this is worrying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6rKpiKJZ4

No booths, french shoutcasters screaming AND the opportunity to hear the crowd reaction to various situations!?

.. hate to say it, but the french are amazing at doing this type of thing when they host tournaments.


Be careful, i said the same thing but got banned.

Because it's retarded, perhaps? Did you see an incident in the matches that looked like stephano were able to predict his opponent? Jebus, watch the matches, don't just desperately try and find excuses when the results are different than what you expect..
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
October 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#5379
On October 24 2011 01:46 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:44 trucane wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:41 Xoronius wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:34 trucane wrote:
Seriously it's the electronic sports world cup of course national anthems is appropriate. Also MVP and Nestea had every possibility to play for their country so don't whine that France and stephano is the world champion in starcraft 2.


I would not call him "the" world champion. He is just "a" world champion, besides Sjow (IesF), Ace (IEM WC) and MVP (GSL WC). If there is a "the world champion", it would have to be MVP, because the GSL is the one organisation, who has the biggest legitimacy (Don´t know, if this word exists in english in that way) to crown the world champion.


MVP is most likely the best player in the world yes but he didn't take the opportunity to partake in this ESWC and thus he gave up the change to become world champion of Starcraft 2. It's not like it would be the first time in the world someone is the WC of something despite not being the actual best player


MVP won the "GSL world campionship". How is he not the world champion? Just because some organisation declares their tournament to a "World championship", it isn´t one automaticly.


Except for the fact that ESWC has been around for a very long time and has always been considered by the community and the players as being the world cup of Esports.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#5380
On October 24 2011 01:47 5ukkub wrote:
Any interviews?
I'm actually suprised there aren't one o_0


They did interviews.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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