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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5121
It was weird sack of mutas & lings and sack of roaches. Maybe overconfident.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5122
On October 24 2011 01:09 cosineInfinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:07 trinxified wrote:
roach imba lol.. too cheap and efficient


Roaches? EFFICIENT?

Surely you jest. Roaches are cheap, but they're pretty much the least cost efficient unit in the game.


Roaches are incredibly cost efficient until max, so I guess you would say they're not supply efficient.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5123
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


Yea but he wasnt a pro he was in school there also now he is 100% dedicated to sc2.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5124
gotta love that Warcraft 2 music (: <333
CutthroatCollapse
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:14:22
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5125
On October 24 2011 01:09 halvorg wrote:
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On October 24 2011 01:06 CutthroatCollapse wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:00 Denar wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:58 saksy2 wrote:
this tournament is just stupid. How can you run a tournament without soundproof booths at all that just lets the players turn their head to see everything that's going on?
[image loading]


Man, please don't spread false stuff like that.

What do you think happens if a player turns his head in front of this crazy crowd ? Seriously, it's not like he can do something unnoticed on stage...


sure he could. And I dont think theres a rule that says, dont turn around during the match or something. its really pretty weird that this possibility exists for the players (although I dont think anyone would ever make use of it)


A player can also leave his computer and stab his opponent...

I'm sure ESWC has a clause in their ruleset that gives referees power to make calls on the fly especially in these kinds of situations.


wow I didnt know that. would be pretty awesome to watch I guess

and on a serious note: you can be "sure" while still being wrong. The player could also just say my neck hurt and I had to turn around or something like that. (if a rule that would punish that even exists)
I tink, MC so sterong
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#5126
On October 24 2011 01:09 cosineInfinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:07 trinxified wrote:
roach imba lol.. too cheap and efficient


Roaches? EFFICIENT?

Surely you jest. Roaches are cheap, but they're pretty much the least cost efficient unit in the game.


Very mineral/gas efficient, but very supply inefficient.

As opposed to Stalkers, which are very supply efficient but ridiculously mineral/gas inefficient.
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5127
Mana should go stargate then warp in zealot to surprise stephano. He should not do the same thing again.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5128
Zomg Stephano was ahead by 2 bases then started suiciding roach armies into Mana's base, is he match fixing?!

Honestly though, I hope the series goes to the 5 game for some extra excitement
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5129
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


He was still at school when he won this tourney, and couldn't practice full-time, so he was actually not a pro..
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5130
TB, you know we love these songs. ^^
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5131
On October 24 2011 01:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:09 anonymitylol wrote:
I don't get why Stephano gg'd there, he still could've just gathered a decent army and killed MaNa if he sacced a hatch. :/

It was 80 supply vs 150, and he had no money.


Because Stephano kept streaming in 5 roaches at a time. If he would've just sacced the bottom right hatch and gathered a decent group of roaches and hydras rather than throwing 5-10 at a time at MaNa's army he could've had a good chance.
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5132
On October 24 2011 01:09 anonymitylol wrote:
I don't get why Stephano gg'd there, he still could've just gathered a decent army and killed MaNa if he sacced a hatch. :/


did you see a supply and minerals for stephano? 0 minerals in bank, 50 supply down, 2 mining hatch down
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5133
Please Mana make immortals instead of colossi. Invest you gas into high templars. This will destroy that roach/ling so hard.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Eisenheim
Profile Joined May 2011
France229 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5134
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


When he win that he was at school, only playing 2hr/day. Since 7 week he become pro and play fulltime.

Next time, don't talk.
ToD, DeMusliM, White-ra, Stephano, MVP !
cosineInfinity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States178 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5135
"A lot of people are cheering for Stephano now"

ORLY
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#5136
On October 24 2011 01:11 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:09 cosineInfinity wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:07 trinxified wrote:
roach imba lol.. too cheap and efficient


Roaches? EFFICIENT?

Surely you jest. Roaches are cheap, but they're pretty much the least cost efficient unit in the game.


Roaches are incredibly cost efficient until max, so I guess you would say they're not supply efficient.

How are roaches not cost efficient?? I don't even...
Not supply efficient at all though
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
October 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#5137
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Not really. His first big success was third place at Assembly Summer 2011. He beat Sen in that tournament. He clearly was already an experienced player at that time.
Also he made an appearance in the first Shoutcraft Invitational, but didn't do very well. That was several months ago.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:16:43
October 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#5138
On October 24 2011 01:12 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


He was still at school when he won this tourney, and couldn't practice full-time, so he was actually not a pro..


If you still aren't satisfied:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stephano

"Prior to playing StarCraft II, Stephano was a notable premier French Warcraft III player who began his competitive career in RTS games at the young age of 14. "

Perhaps he only recently became full-time SC2 pro, but he used to play WC3 for a while competitively.

EDIT: Also, as far as not counting as a pro because you are in education as well, for most of the first year of Sc2 Nada made the Semi-finals of the GSL while at Seoul university, and he most definitely counted as a pro.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#5139
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263818
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#5140
On October 24 2011 01:12 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:10 SeaSwift wrote:
On October 24 2011 01:08 Roynalf wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:52 HappyChris wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:50 Eisenheim wrote:
On October 24 2011 00:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
"Stephano is not very impressive, he needs to proof himself at LAN, online wins mean nothing" ...

Stephano wins IPL3
Stephano did tear through MLG Open bracket, losing only to Korean players (StC in open, BoxeR in championship)
Stephano is about to win ESWC

... right.


Totally


And is about to win 56000 dollars in 2 weeks. Insane


MVP got $70,000 in 2 days.. (could have been $100k)

Stephano went pro like 7 weeks ago


Internet myth.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1344_2011_Medion_Trophy__1

7 weeks huh?


He was still at school when he won this tourney, and couldn't practice full-time, so he was actually not a pro..

Isn't that just arguing semantics? I'm mean by that definition a lot of "pros" wouldn't be pros because of school and such.
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