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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 05 2011 07:48 GMT
#121
I think NesTea and DRG should both win their matches np barring something along the lines of a poll curse.

Leenock vs Ganzi is a tricky one. Ganzi is a very solid Slayers Terran, but Leenock's ZvT is stupidly good most of the time. I picked Leenock, but I think it could easily go the other way.

MVP and Bomber is also really difficult to call. MVP's only real blemishes lately are losing in AOL (which he probably didn't care much about compared to Code S) and losing to Tails in GSTL, but that was just him rushing and it getting held off. Despite that, MVP seems dead set on his roar for four and he could quite possibly do it.

Bomber has beaten MVP in a Bo7 before, the only player to have accomplished this, so this match really hinges on which Bomber we get today. If we get the Bomber we saw play the first 2 sets against Byun a couple GSLs ago, MVP will be in for a bumpy ride.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
October 05 2011 07:49 GMT
#122
On October 05 2011 16:42 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:55 Rebs wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:49 Indrium wrote:
Bomber will most definitely win, in my opinion. Why?

Bomber's losses cannot make sense.

This is a theory I have going. Losing to MVP would be explainable, even expected. He's probably the top player in the world right now, and he just won a GSL. But Bomber can't lose when it makes sense in Code S tournaments. July Bomber 2-0s the Super Tournament Champion, then manages to dominate Byun 2 games in a row then choke harder than a guy with a foot down his throat. August he then loses to Keen, who he had I think a 90% Toto against. The guy shows again and again that he's like a master swordfighter that can go toe-to-toe with the best, then somehow manages to cut off his own foot fighting a 12 year old.

So Bomber will win. Because his loss has to be stupid.


Have to agree with this. I totally see him blowing MVP and Nestea out of the water. Thats why having players he is predicted to have a hard time against all the way to the final would work for him. Since DRG is an odds on favourite to hit the semis.



Funny how Bomber got man-handled by Nestea the last time they played.


Everyone always says this, they musn't have watched the games very closely. Yeah, Bomber kinda fell apart in game 2, but game 1 was pretty close.

Besides, Bomber's improved his TvZ tremendously since they last played. Remember Bomber vs. DongRaeGu at MLG?
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 05 2011 07:50 GMT
#123
Nestea is lucky to be matched against one of the weakest players to ever advance to ro16. Don't see him beatin MVP/Bomber though
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
October 05 2011 07:53 GMT
#124
On October 05 2011 16:42 IM_Megan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 16:07 Sareth wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:46 IM_Megan wrote:
Good morning, I asume I shall be LR the next upcomming matches again.

I can not wait for Nestea to start playing, I'm kinda a fanboy.. :o

Thanks a lot again :D
What would be work without GSL?
If you come over the Border anytime soon tell me, you earned yourself some beer ^.^


My little sister is in berlin right now! But she is underage ;o

Where you from in germany?

Ich spreche eine kleine bitte Deutsche

Actually i live pretty close to the Border, just like 25km from Enschede
And i can understand some dutch, but cant speak it^^
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 08:01:34
October 05 2011 08:00 GMT
#125
On October 05 2011 16:49 Sarang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 16:42 namste wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:55 Rebs wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:49 Indrium wrote:
Bomber will most definitely win, in my opinion. Why?

Bomber's losses cannot make sense.

This is a theory I have going. Losing to MVP would be explainable, even expected. He's probably the top player in the world right now, and he just won a GSL. But Bomber can't lose when it makes sense in Code S tournaments. July Bomber 2-0s the Super Tournament Champion, then manages to dominate Byun 2 games in a row then choke harder than a guy with a foot down his throat. August he then loses to Keen, who he had I think a 90% Toto against. The guy shows again and again that he's like a master swordfighter that can go toe-to-toe with the best, then somehow manages to cut off his own foot fighting a 12 year old.

So Bomber will win. Because his loss has to be stupid.


Have to agree with this. I totally see him blowing MVP and Nestea out of the water. Thats why having players he is predicted to have a hard time against all the way to the final would work for him. Since DRG is an odds on favourite to hit the semis.



Funny how Bomber got man-handled by Nestea the last time they played.


Everyone always says this, they musn't have watched the games very closely. Yeah, Bomber kinda fell apart in game 2, but game 1 was pretty close.

Besides, Bomber's improved his TvZ tremendously since they last played. Remember Bomber vs. DongRaeGu at MLG?

Bomber trew a couple random cheeses in his play. Like 2 port banshee on XNC.
Nestea is a God reading builds and reacting to it against Terran.

I don't like Bomber his TvZ. Even though he wins a decent number of them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 08:08:05
October 05 2011 08:06 GMT
#126
On October 05 2011 17:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 16:49 Sarang wrote:
On October 05 2011 16:42 namste wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:55 Rebs wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:49 Indrium wrote:
Bomber will most definitely win, in my opinion. Why?

Bomber's losses cannot make sense.

This is a theory I have going. Losing to MVP would be explainable, even expected. He's probably the top player in the world right now, and he just won a GSL. But Bomber can't lose when it makes sense in Code S tournaments. July Bomber 2-0s the Super Tournament Champion, then manages to dominate Byun 2 games in a row then choke harder than a guy with a foot down his throat. August he then loses to Keen, who he had I think a 90% Toto against. The guy shows again and again that he's like a master swordfighter that can go toe-to-toe with the best, then somehow manages to cut off his own foot fighting a 12 year old.

So Bomber will win. Because his loss has to be stupid.


Have to agree with this. I totally see him blowing MVP and Nestea out of the water. Thats why having players he is predicted to have a hard time against all the way to the final would work for him. Since DRG is an odds on favourite to hit the semis.



Funny how Bomber got man-handled by Nestea the last time they played.


Everyone always says this, they musn't have watched the games very closely. Yeah, Bomber kinda fell apart in game 2, but game 1 was pretty close.

Besides, Bomber's improved his TvZ tremendously since they last played. Remember Bomber vs. DongRaeGu at MLG?

Bomber trew a couple random cheeses in his play. Like 2 port banshee on XNC.
Nestea is a God reading builds and reacting to it against Terran.

I don't like Bomber his TvZ. Even though he wins a decent number of them.

They weren't random at all. Bomber probably has some of the most brilliant cheese timings in sets he plays. Right after he played 2 standard games in a row against DRG and dominated him he goes on to play Coca and throws in 2 cheeses in a row. 2 port banshee followed by 2 proxy rax in the middle of the map on one of the biggest maps in the pool. Then he plays Coca again and he doesn't cheese once.

I don't think Bomber's style is the best against Nestea's though, but it can definitely work. I'd say the matchup is much closer to 50/50.
H.Endymion
Profile Joined May 2011
France9 Posts
October 05 2011 08:09 GMT
#127
Cheering for DRG, MVP & Nestea.
I just hope Leenock will make it !
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
October 05 2011 08:11 GMT
#128
go DRG for the swarm !
DeMusliM !!!
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
October 05 2011 08:12 GMT
#129
I hope DRG and the Terrans win tonight. Feed more Terrans to DRG!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 05 2011 08:15 GMT
#130
On October 05 2011 17:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 16:49 Sarang wrote:
On October 05 2011 16:42 namste wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:55 Rebs wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:49 Indrium wrote:
Bomber will most definitely win, in my opinion. Why?

Bomber's losses cannot make sense.

This is a theory I have going. Losing to MVP would be explainable, even expected. He's probably the top player in the world right now, and he just won a GSL. But Bomber can't lose when it makes sense in Code S tournaments. July Bomber 2-0s the Super Tournament Champion, then manages to dominate Byun 2 games in a row then choke harder than a guy with a foot down his throat. August he then loses to Keen, who he had I think a 90% Toto against. The guy shows again and again that he's like a master swordfighter that can go toe-to-toe with the best, then somehow manages to cut off his own foot fighting a 12 year old.

So Bomber will win. Because his loss has to be stupid.


Have to agree with this. I totally see him blowing MVP and Nestea out of the water. Thats why having players he is predicted to have a hard time against all the way to the final would work for him. Since DRG is an odds on favourite to hit the semis.



Funny how Bomber got man-handled by Nestea the last time they played.


Everyone always says this, they musn't have watched the games very closely. Yeah, Bomber kinda fell apart in game 2, but game 1 was pretty close.

Besides, Bomber's improved his TvZ tremendously since they last played. Remember Bomber vs. DongRaeGu at MLG?

Bomber trew a couple random cheeses in his play. Like 2 port banshee on XNC.
Nestea is a God reading builds and reacting to it against Terran.

I don't like Bomber his TvZ. Even though he wins a decent number of them.


Uh, I don't think he cheesed DRG, infact I recall one of the games being very long where he displayed the best of the terran late game arsenal with defensive PF's and cloaked ghosts, nukes etc.
However when he does decide to cheese, it usually makes perfect sense and he executes it brutally, like said above.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 08:18:11
October 05 2011 08:16 GMT
#131
On October 05 2011 17:12 Clefairy wrote:
I hope DRG and the Terrans win tonight. Feed more Terrans to DRG!

DRG kinda manhandled Losira, he has a shot this GSL!
DRG can beat MVP. But will have a hard time against MMA/Nestea.

On October 05 2011 17:15 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 17:00 Koshi wrote:
On October 05 2011 16:49 Sarang wrote:
On October 05 2011 16:42 namste wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:55 Rebs wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:49 Indrium wrote:
Bomber will most definitely win, in my opinion. Why?

Bomber's losses cannot make sense.

This is a theory I have going. Losing to MVP would be explainable, even expected. He's probably the top player in the world right now, and he just won a GSL. But Bomber can't lose when it makes sense in Code S tournaments. July Bomber 2-0s the Super Tournament Champion, then manages to dominate Byun 2 games in a row then choke harder than a guy with a foot down his throat. August he then loses to Keen, who he had I think a 90% Toto against. The guy shows again and again that he's like a master swordfighter that can go toe-to-toe with the best, then somehow manages to cut off his own foot fighting a 12 year old.

So Bomber will win. Because his loss has to be stupid.


Have to agree with this. I totally see him blowing MVP and Nestea out of the water. Thats why having players he is predicted to have a hard time against all the way to the final would work for him. Since DRG is an odds on favourite to hit the semis.



Funny how Bomber got man-handled by Nestea the last time they played.


Everyone always says this, they musn't have watched the games very closely. Yeah, Bomber kinda fell apart in game 2, but game 1 was pretty close.

Besides, Bomber's improved his TvZ tremendously since they last played. Remember Bomber vs. DongRaeGu at MLG?

Bomber trew a couple random cheeses in his play. Like 2 port banshee on XNC.
Nestea is a God reading builds and reacting to it against Terran.

I don't like Bomber his TvZ. Even though he wins a decent number of them.


Uh, I don't think he cheesed DRG, infact I recall one of the games being very long where he displayed the best of the terran late game arsenal with defensive PF's and cloaked ghosts, nukes etc.
However when he does decide to cheese, it usually makes perfect sense and he executes it brutally, like said above.

He didn't cheese DRG, but if I can choose between MMA or Bomber to face DRG, I would go for MMA. I don't know why.
I had a good night of sleep.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 05 2011 08:25 GMT
#132
On October 05 2011 17:16 Koshi wrote:
if I can choose between MMA or Bomber to face DRG, I would go for MMA. I don't know why.

That's easy. MMA does the stanky legg with his dropship play and is everywhere at once. Him and Puma are both very good at suffocating their opponents with perfect drops, such as MMA repeatedly sniping Losira's tech tree at MLG Columbus.

Bomber is fearsome as well, to be sure, but MMA's style seems unbeatable when he executes it properly.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 05 2011 08:27 GMT
#133
On October 05 2011 17:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 17:12 Clefairy wrote:
I hope DRG and the Terrans win tonight. Feed more Terrans to DRG!

DRG kinda manhandled Losira, he has a shot this GSL!
DRG can beat MVP. But will have a hard time against MMA/Nestea.


The last time MVP and DRG played, MVP completely dismantled him. His only lose came from a base race on a zerg favored map
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 05 2011 08:27 GMT
#134
Judicator's Picks
MVP > Bomber
Nestea > Virus
Ganzi > Leenock
DRG > Supernova

The Judicator has spoken.
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
October 05 2011 08:31 GMT
#135
On October 05 2011 17:27 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 17:16 Koshi wrote:
On October 05 2011 17:12 Clefairy wrote:
I hope DRG and the Terrans win tonight. Feed more Terrans to DRG!

DRG kinda manhandled Losira, he has a shot this GSL!
DRG can beat MVP. But will have a hard time against MMA/Nestea.


The last time MVP and DRG played, MVP completely dismantled him. His only lose came from a base race on a zerg favored map


I think the original poster was referring to Arena of Legends, where DRG 2-0 MVP. I don't think it's impossible for DRG to beat MVP, but it sure would not be easy.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 05 2011 08:32 GMT
#136
Bomber vs Mvp is going to reignite my passion of TvT. I have been getting just a little bored of it since there's been so many of them lately, but imo this is the heavyweight battle of Starcraft 2. NesTea may be more successful than Bomber, but when these two terran titans slug it out, it just seems like the ultimate fight, IMO of course! Add to that Bomber's impressive record against Mvp, and it creates an mouth watering matchup.

GanZi vs Leenock is the other exciting clash, Ganzi has some of the very best TvZ in the world, and Leenock will have to play very well to take him out.


MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
October 05 2011 08:33 GMT
#137
MVP vs Bomber is gonna be so sick! I cant wait!
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
October 05 2011 08:36 GMT
#138
I think we will see 4 Zergs in the RO8. Ganzi could win but the Zergs he has beaten before werent great for the most part. I doubt he is as scary in the matchup as Leenock is right now.

MVP 2 : 1 Bomber
Nestea 2 : 0 Virus
Leenock 2 : 1 Ganzi
DRG 2 : 0 Supernova
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1370 Posts
October 05 2011 08:38 GMT
#139
great matches today, would be lovin to see a few protoss though ; (
mada mada dane
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
October 05 2011 08:40 GMT
#140
nestea always goes through the easy bracket sigh but dw mvp to win gsl again for sure no doubt.
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