[IEM] New York NA/SA Player Replacement Tourny - Page 2

On October 04 2011 05:17 EGalex wrote:
Why is this being done instead of standard ESL policy for player replacement? I don't understand the inconsistencies. It drives me crazy. It's really hard to plan for potentially sending players as replacements when the criteria for who goes seems to change every event.

I have spoken with Carmac and Shawn about this on several occasions. Most recently, it was explained to me that there is a standard protocol for replacements, which is to go down the list of qualifier participants, sequentially offering a slot based on highest placement outside of the top 8. By this protocol, which it has been explained to me to be standard protocol, the slot would go to either the 4th place finisher from qualifier #1 (Attero), the 4th place finisher from qualifier #2 (StrifeCro), or the 3rd place finisher from qualifier #3 (winner of giX/OwMyGroin).

Since Attero has subsequently qualified, shouldn't the logical next step be to contact StrifeCro and the winner of giX/OwMyGroin, to see if both can go? If both can go, there should be a match between those two. If only one can go, that player should get the spot. Am I missing something here?

Obviously this is a self-interested post, but that doesn't make my point illegitimate or invalid. I have had arguments about this on numerous occasions with ESL officials - the last time, quite an extended discussion about Cologne - and the resolution we came to was that I was assured that ESL's policies for player replacement were uniform and standard, and would be applied the same throughout the season.

Now, just two Global Challenges later, I have to voice the exact same complaint. Am I missing something?

On October 04 2011 05:52 p34nUt wrote:

It says on the event page :
So is there a $600 stipend IN ADDITION to the minimum prize? or are u referring to the minimum prize as the stipend?

On October 04 2011 06:02 pHaRSiDE wrote:


Because we hosted 3 separate qualifiers thats why we can't simply go down the line of the next person. In the other format where we had a championship bracket, then yes we would go straight down the line to the next person as its 1 tournament. When you have 3 tournaments you simply can't do it in a fair way. So another mini tournament is the most fair way. Gix, owmygroin, and strifecro will participate as they all can go.

As far as your fights with carmac and shawn, it a little odd considering this was approved by Carsten.




the $600 on the prize list is the stipend pay.

On October 04 2011 09:07 Derity wrote:
for IEM Guangzhou you had a rematch for 3rd place in the 2nd qualifier. HasuObs lost to Xlord, but Xlord withdraw...

So why not apply the same rule for the same qualifier? just take the 4th from the 1st qualifier, in which qxc succeded.