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[IEM] New York NA/SA Player Replacement Tourny

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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:19:27
October 03 2011 17:02 GMT
#1
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As you know player (T)FXO.qxc decided to withdrawl from the tournament due to personal reasons, therefore we have to replace him at the event.

Tonight only will be a small double elimination tournament to decide who will replace him. This tournament is only for anyone who can attend the event on this short notice. If you can't and/or already booked for something else like MLG, do NOT sign up for this cup.

The winner of this cup will get a direct invite to the IEM groupstage to replace (T)FXO.qxc at New York Comicon

(Z)EG,StrifeCro wins the replacement spot and will be at the IEM NYC Comicon event!



IEM Player Replacement Cup

Brackets Are Live
**Max contestants is 8 people. Signups will be accepted in the order they are recieved.**

You must be from North, South, or Central America to play in the cup
Date: October 3rd
Begins: 8:00 pm EST
Location: Battle.net US
Sigh up: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/go4sc2/iemplayerreplace1/signup/

**You must checkin on cup day**
Check-in Starts: 7:00 pm EST
Check-in Ends: 7:40 pm EST
check-in here: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/go4sc2/iemplayerreplace1/checkin

Where to be: Be in channel ESL.SC2 Battle.net US.

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tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 17:05:45
October 03 2011 17:04 GMT
#2
For those wondering:
01:00 GMT (+00:00)

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[time]8:00 pm EST[/time]


EDIT: O shit, a useful 1100 post :O
EDIT2: Will this be streamed?
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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
October 03 2011 17:10 GMT
#3
If I can secure a caster, it can be streamed, else people will just have to watch the replays of it.
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DarkVI3tz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 19:40:12
October 03 2011 19:40 GMT
#4
On October 04 2011 02:10 pHaRSiDE wrote:
If I can secure a caster, it can be streamed, else people will just have to watch the replays of it.


You should try and ask It's Gosu if they'd be willing to cast it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 20:04 GMT
#5
I'll cast it if there is no one really else. My casting is subpar, but it's better than nothing I guess :B
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Regnen
Profile Joined August 2010
United States21 Posts
October 03 2011 20:07 GMT
#6
I don't suppose there's any sort of travel stipend or anything?
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:08:49
October 03 2011 20:08 GMT
#7
its $600 stipend pay for travel and hotel stay. But a plane ticket this short notice will cost you quite a bit.
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ottersareneat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States55 Posts
October 03 2011 20:17 GMT
#8
Why is this being done instead of standard ESL policy for player replacement? I don't understand the inconsistencies. It drives me crazy. It's really hard to plan for potentially sending players as replacements when the criteria for who goes seems to change every event.

I have spoken with Carmac and Shawn about this on several occasions. Most recently, it was explained to me that there is a standard protocol for replacements, which is to go down the list of qualifier participants, sequentially offering a slot based on highest placement outside of the top 8. By this protocol, which it has been explained to me to be standard protocol, the slot would go to either the 4th place finisher from qualifier #1 (Attero), the 4th place finisher from qualifier #2 (StrifeCro), or the 3rd place finisher from qualifier #3 (winner of giX/OwMyGroin).

Since Attero has subsequently qualified, shouldn't the logical next step be to contact StrifeCro and the winner of giX/OwMyGroin, to see if both can go? If both can go, there should be a match between those two. If only one can go, that player should get the spot. Am I missing something here?

Obviously this is a self-interested post, but that doesn't make my point illegitimate or invalid. I have had arguments about this on numerous occasions with ESL officials - the last time, quite an extended discussion about Cologne - and the resolution we came to was that I was assured that ESL's policies for player replacement were uniform and standard, and would be applied the same throughout the season.

Now, just two Global Challenges later, I have to voice the exact same complaint. Am I missing something?
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PMSH2OStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
United States107 Posts
October 03 2011 20:52 GMT
#9
On October 04 2011 05:08 pHaRSiDE wrote:
its $600 stipend pay for travel and hotel stay. But a plane ticket this short notice will cost you quite a bit.

It says on the event page :
-You must provide your own travel cost to the event. NESL or IEM will not provide stipends for travel to the New York Comi Con event! BUT each team attending the event is guaranteed $600.

So is there a $600 stipend IN ADDITION to the minimum prize? or are u referring to the minimum prize as the stipend?
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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:17:21
October 03 2011 21:02 GMT
#10
On October 04 2011 05:17 EGalex wrote:
Why is this being done instead of standard ESL policy for player replacement? I don't understand the inconsistencies. It drives me crazy. It's really hard to plan for potentially sending players as replacements when the criteria for who goes seems to change every event.

I have spoken with Carmac and Shawn about this on several occasions. Most recently, it was explained to me that there is a standard protocol for replacements, which is to go down the list of qualifier participants, sequentially offering a slot based on highest placement outside of the top 8. By this protocol, which it has been explained to me to be standard protocol, the slot would go to either the 4th place finisher from qualifier #1 (Attero), the 4th place finisher from qualifier #2 (StrifeCro), or the 3rd place finisher from qualifier #3 (winner of giX/OwMyGroin).

Since Attero has subsequently qualified, shouldn't the logical next step be to contact StrifeCro and the winner of giX/OwMyGroin, to see if both can go? If both can go, there should be a match between those two. If only one can go, that player should get the spot. Am I missing something here?

Obviously this is a self-interested post, but that doesn't make my point illegitimate or invalid. I have had arguments about this on numerous occasions with ESL officials - the last time, quite an extended discussion about Cologne - and the resolution we came to was that I was assured that ESL's policies for player replacement were uniform and standard, and would be applied the same throughout the season.

Now, just two Global Challenges later, I have to voice the exact same complaint. Am I missing something?


Because we hosted 3 separate qualifiers thats why we can't simply go down the line of the next person. In the other format where we had a championship bracket, then yes we would go straight down the line to the next person as its 1 tournament. When you have 3 tournaments you simply can't do it in a fair way. So another mini tournament is the most fair way. Gix, owmygroin, and strifecro will participate as they all can go.

As far as your fights with carmac and shawn, it a little odd considering this was approved by Carsten.


On October 04 2011 05:52 p34nUt wrote:
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On October 04 2011 05:08 pHaRSiDE wrote:
its $600 stipend pay for travel and hotel stay. But a plane ticket this short notice will cost you quite a bit.

It says on the event page :
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-You must provide your own travel cost to the event. NESL or IEM will not provide stipends for travel to the New York Comi Con event! BUT each team attending the event is guaranteed $600.

So is there a $600 stipend IN ADDITION to the minimum prize? or are u referring to the minimum prize as the stipend?


the $600 on the prize list is the stipend pay.
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1774 Posts
October 03 2011 21:07 GMT
#11
Invite StrifeCo. I bet he takes it anyways.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
October 03 2011 21:25 GMT
#12
Well I signed up, let's see what happens.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#13
How long does it take for approval?
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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
October 03 2011 21:48 GMT
#14
I forgot to write the max participants is 8 in the main post. I'll edit it in. Its a small tournament, If anyone who signed up does not confirm I'll accept more in in order of sign up.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:52:01
October 03 2011 21:50 GMT
#15
Hum, so essentially first come first serve with very few spots?
Why is this? Too much work or...?

How do you confirm? You mean check-in
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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:53:22
October 03 2011 21:52 GMT
#16
Yea its just a small cup for people who most definitely can attend, it needs to be finished quickly because of the short notice, so more than 8 people double elimination would greatly legthen the duration of the tournament.

And yes we check who confirms by checkins. If by 8:00 pm EST we have a spots open, we will accept more to fill those slots.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 21:54 GMT
#17
I think it being short-notice would greatly shorten the number of participants.
If you need additional help, I can help you if it means more people get to play.
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
October 03 2011 21:58 GMT
#18
On October 04 2011 06:52 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Yea its just a small cup for people who most definitely can attend, it needs to be finished quickly because of the short notice, so more than 8 people double elimination would greatly legthen the duration of the tournament.

And yes we check who confirms by checkins. If by 8:00 pm EST we have a spots open, we will accept more to fill those slots.


alright i signed up as soon as i saw this, appears full.. so ill be around. waiting.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 03 2011 22:06 GMT
#19
On October 04 2011 06:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hum, so essentially first come first serve with very few spots?
Why is this? Too much work or...?

How do you confirm? You mean check-in


Yeah, I would feel guilty of taking the opportunity away to someone with greater skill as he/she's going into the hardest group in the tourney lmao, seems really hasty, I would hate to see a no-name with no shot attend due to unfortunate circumstances.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 22:08 GMT
#20
On October 04 2011 07:06 Badfatpanda wrote:
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On October 04 2011 06:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hum, so essentially first come first serve with very few spots?
Why is this? Too much work or...?

How do you confirm? You mean check-in


Yeah, I would feel guilty of taking the opportunity away to someone with greater skill as he/she's going into the hardest group in the tourney lmao, seems really hasty, I would hate to see a no-name with no shot attend due to unfortunate circumstances.


Everyone deserves a chance regardless of their likelihood to win or "have a shot"
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