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Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
October 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#141
I want IdrA to win sooo bad
but Puma will probably take it
and Elfi > Hasu
LiGhtoftheSwaRm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
October 03 2011 18:06 GMT
#142
On October 04 2011 02:55 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:59 integrity wrote:
On October 04 2011 01:55 iNcontroL wrote:
1. Puma
2. Hasuobs
3. IdrA
4. Elfi

Wish it could be 1/2 IdrA and Puma of course

Puma is simply too monster TvZ atm.. but I am hoping for a HELL of a series from my brothers



if your predictions come true i cant wait to see the 3rd place rematch between idra and elfi


Well Elfi won 2-0 against Idra in group play pretty convincingly. ^^


We clearly were watching different series then, because nothing about Elfi's wins over IdrA were 'convincing.' Not to detract from Elfi's play at all, which has been surprisingly superb, IdrA should easily have had that first game and admitted he was just a bit late on his tech switch causing him to lose to the deathball, the second game had a lot to do with IdrA's playstyle for ZvP (drop and harass oriented) not working well on the map. If IdrA does beat Puma, I think he has way more of a shot against either of the Protoss' than people are giving him credit.

If anyone thinks just because IdrA went 1-2 in groups means he must not be playing as well as everyone else in the Semi's they're just wrong and didn't watch all of the group games. Setting aside the bunker rush on Shakuras, IdrA really only played poorly once in the second game loss to Jinro and had some minor things prevent him from winning against Elfi in both games (and no, not because he made Hydra's..)

Protoss is simply the hard matchup for Zerg atm because in some scenarios they simply have a tough time judging when to switch from Corrupters into Broodlords.. something I'm sure will be ironed out soon.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 03 2011 18:10 GMT
#143
If Idra wins vs Puma, that will certainly be the biggest upset I've seen so far in SC2. Fingers crossed.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
October 03 2011 18:11 GMT
#144
I doubt that idra will try hard in a 3rd place match
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 03 2011 18:13 GMT
#145
On October 04 2011 03:11 hrvoje07 wrote:
I doubt that idra will try hard in a 3rd place match


If they had a similar prize, no

500$ is worth it
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 03 2011 18:15 GMT
#146
On October 04 2011 03:10 motbob wrote:
If Idra wins vs Puma, that will certainly be the biggest upset I've seen so far in SC2. Fingers crossed.


meh, hongun vs mc and FXO vs IM were bigger upsets imo. PuMa isn't bigger a favorite than those matches.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
FlowerBunny
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden187 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#147
Does this start in 8 hours?
I was a Terran player. I am a Terran player. I will always be a Terran player
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 03 2011 18:18 GMT
#148
Elfi vs Hasu could go either way. Depends on how well Hasu is playing that day.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#149
On October 04 2011 02:31 Dumbtruck wrote:
elfi was nice pickup for acer.
top 3 protoss eu for sure.


No... not really. :-/
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
October 03 2011 18:22 GMT
#150
hasu vs puma finals with puma winning a close series (3-0 but ggs)
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 03 2011 18:40 GMT
#151
On October 04 2011 01:50 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:40 crms wrote:
Head prediction:
Puma > Hasu 3-1 in the finals.


Heart prediction:
Idra 3-1 Elfi in the finals.



lets gogogogo!



What's your cock prediction?



cock prediction would be Elfi or Hasu to win it. the huge boner I'd get while watching the forums errupt into P imba EU toss beating KR terran would be extravagant.
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TolEranceNA
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada434 Posts
October 03 2011 18:40 GMT
#152
I mind as well bet against everyone.

Elfi Idra final
Arotsis:"Nestea, what do you think about Zerg?" Nestea:"...Sad."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
October 03 2011 18:41 GMT
#153
On October 04 2011 03:21 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 02:31 Dumbtruck wrote:
elfi was nice pickup for acer.
top 3 protoss eu for sure.


No... not really. :-/


I agree with you, Naruto. IdrA definitely has the potential to knock out the losing Protoss and take third place.

I would even go so far as to say the ball is in IdrA's court there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
October 03 2011 18:46 GMT
#154
On October 04 2011 03:18 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Elfi vs Hasu could go either way. Depends on how well Hasu is playing that day.


Exactly. Statistically elfi is the slight favourite here, because it is his best MU, while it is Hasu´s worst.

The problem with Hasu´s Mirror is not, that he sucks at it, it is the inconsistency. Sometimes he loses against pretty unknown Protoss like Acro 0-2, where you just scratch your head and think "WTF Hasu!" and on other days he beats Top-protoss like Mana 3-0. You never know beforehand what to expect, especially after the most recent patch.

However, if Hasu has a really good day like back at ESL Torneo in Spain, when he defeated Socke in a BO7 to win the tourney, he definetly can beat elfi tomorrow. If this is the case, he also has a small chance to upset Puma in the final, especially on big maps like Taldarim, Crevasse or Terminus, where he maybe can drag the game into the lategame.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 03 2011 18:49 GMT
#155
PvP statistics don't mean much unless they are post-patch.

The recent patch really has changed the entire match up. Some players will thrive in the new system, others won't.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 03 2011 18:49 GMT
#156
On October 04 2011 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 00:14 -_- wrote:
Beyond effective use of the 1-1-1, Puma's TvP is poor. This is unsurprising, because if you use a 1 base build which give you a large advantage in most games, you will be worse at playing an even game which stretches on.

I hope Puma is enjoying his time in the TvP sun, because it will come with a price.


Yeah, because beating the best Protoss in the world in a full-blown series, when MC was indeed undoubtedly the best Protoss in the world, without using the 1-1-1 at all, is showing pretty poor TvP performance.

And that included macro games as well.

Please do a little research before making ridiculous claims. Puma's a beast, plain and simple. He can use the 1-1-1 very effectively, and he's certainly not afraid to auto-win with it, but he's not a one trick pony.


Here is my post from page 5 of this thead.

On October 04 2011 00:25 -_- wrote:


Have you watched his games against Mana? I think his TvP late game is very poor. Even in the NASL finals he somehow blew tremendous advantages and let MC stay in games when he most absolutely shouldn't have.

If Puma gets through Idra, and either Elfi or Hasu can enter mid game even with Puma, I fully expect either to beat Puma.


As you can see, I was in no way unaware of Puma's NASL finals series against MC. You can disagree with my assessment of the series if you want, but you can't pretend that I made a silly claim because I failed to "do a little research."
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 03 2011 18:53 GMT
#157
On October 04 2011 03:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 03:21 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 04 2011 02:31 Dumbtruck wrote:
elfi was nice pickup for acer.
top 3 protoss eu for sure.


No... not really. :-/


I agree with you, Naruto. IdrA definitely has the potential to knock out the losing Protoss and take third place.

I would even go so far as to say the ball is in IdrA's court there.


huh...?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
October 03 2011 18:54 GMT
#158
Puma ezpz, gonna be a sick series for sure!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
October 03 2011 18:56 GMT
#159
On October 04 2011 03:53 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 03:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 04 2011 03:21 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 04 2011 02:31 Dumbtruck wrote:
elfi was nice pickup for acer.
top 3 protoss eu for sure.


No... not really. :-/


I agree with you, Naruto. IdrA definitely has the potential to knock out the losing Protoss and take third place.

I would even go so far as to say the ball is in IdrA's court there.


huh...?


Ah, I misread. When Dumbtruck said top three, I thought he meant that elfi would definitely get at least third (therefore, beating IdrA, even if elfi loses to Hasu), no matter what. Obviously, "protoss eu" shows he didn't mean that

I was thinking about the outcomes of the upcoming matches. My mistake
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 03 2011 18:57 GMT
#160
On October 04 2011 03:22 TT1 wrote:
hasu vs puma finals with puma winning a close series (3-0 but ggs)



3rd place?
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
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