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On October 03 2011 16:27 Jehct wrote:
Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced.
Edit: Seriously, he could have had 2 immortals and 1-2 colossus instead of the phoenix (and he would have won).
You realize that Blizzard patched immortals specifically because they said 1-1-1 was imbalanced...
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On October 03 2011 16:28 mgl0x9 wrote:
maybe iam missing something... why does he expand when he knows he is going 1-1-1
Nexus first is the closest thing to a counter the 1/1/1 has right now. It gives you enough time for the econ boost to kick in and hopefully gives you enough to deal with the push, assuming you control everything absolutely perfectly.
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United States2400 Posts
On October 03 2011 16:24 Dante08 wrote:
As expected the immortal buff doesnt help alot at all, the main problem with 111 is marines.
I would have to agree with this. Immortals are absolute shit against marine, no matter the range
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On October 03 2011 16:28 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:27 Montana[TK] wrote:
lol @ you guys
it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it. Doesn't mean people have to like it, though. There shouldn't be a single build with a 90% winrate in any RTS, imho.
Exactly, but it also doesn't mean that people need to cry or whine about it. And you are right, there shouldn't be a single build with a huge win rate, but now you should know who to blame instead the player who uses it.
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On October 03 2011 16:27 Jehct wrote:
Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced.
Edit: Seriously, he could have had 2 immortals and 1-2 colossus instead of the phoenix (and he would have won).
If he doesn't make those initial immortals he dies to the initial 3 tanks, he didn't have the time or money for 1-2 collosus. The stargate was just desperation and when the game was already over
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On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote:
Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time...
After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him.
Didn't Puma 1-1-1'd MC out of the finals?
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Even as a zerg player it's sad watching Ps getting stomped by that 1-1-1 push. The fact that your economy is better than your opponent after pulling 85% of your scvs is disgusting. On the other hand JYP should've went for a couple of colossus, rather than phoenix, I think.
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lol jyp is so fucked cloaked banshee done and his robo is farther then last game xD.
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On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote:
Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time...
After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him.
This man speaks the truth. Part of it is also the whole shady EG transfer where he pretty much said "fuck you" to his old team manager who helped bring him up.
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On October 03 2011 16:27 Montana[TK] wrote:
lol @ you guys
it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it.
Off course he plays to win.
But that doesn't mean we respect him for doing that.
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yeah, id 1-1-1 too if i was puma.
but, as mvp said, 1-1-1 is terrible for fans. why do you guys think puma has way less fans than any other korean who goes to foreign events? Theres a reason most people cringe at 1-1-1, but i dont blame him for doing it. i blame blizzard for making the MULE such a retarded macro mechanic, encouraging retarded scv all ins, which arent even "all in"
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On October 03 2011 16:28 Thrax wrote:Don't worry guys, PuMa only goes 1-1-1 on maps where it makes sense. ... err wait 
Shakuras is awesome map for 1-1-1 ._. .
There goes the classic banshee harass followup -> 2 ccs.
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On October 03 2011 16:29 W2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote:
Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time...
After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him. This man speaks the truth. Part of it is also the whole shady EG transfer where he pretty much said "fuck you" to his old team manager who helped bring him up.
oh wow that's distorting the truth to say the least. Assuming he "pretty much" said anything is just wild speculation on your part.
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Expo????? Puma what are you doing!
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Oh man puma is really meta gaming JYP.
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Russian Federation304 Posts
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Puma is a fking abusive, ok. But JYP is fking it up with his robo timming, and no excuse about that, that early nexus needs a robo once u see a bunker.
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United States97277 Posts
On October 03 2011 16:29 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:28 Angelbelow wrote:
111 once again! Lets see if this is all in version or not. There is no all in version.
Someone wrote it a long time ago. It's only all in if you fly your orbital there too. I feel like this was said in GSL 3 when Rain played or maybe 2 with Bitbybit
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This feels like dejavu when Puma won the last IEM. Are we going to have 200 pages of utter rage/venting frustration about this again? Has that done anything to the game? Did that change the way Puma plays?
It's a strong push, and until there's a surefire way of defending it, it will happen constantly. Complain all you want, but it's been beaten to death at this point.
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