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On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote: Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time... After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him.
Because winning with a somewhat "imba" (please forgive me for saying this) build is bad thing. Duh
He is not the only one and he shouldn't be. 'Abuse' something that gives you wins.
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On October 03 2011 16:26 GreyKnight wrote: JYP lost when the cloaked banshee killed 5 probes before the 1-1-1 even hit. You're strained economically from the 1-1-1 since you have to take natural and mine as much as you can but the banshee ruined it.
also desperation stargate at the end didn't help at all either.
Nothing JYP can do about that, Banshees are one of those things that gaurentee 3-4 worker kills if used competently.
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Main issue for Protoss vs Terran 1-1-1 is the lack of AOE without sacrificing Gateway units in the mid-game. Sentry and FF are not so effective in the mid-game when dealing with reactored marines.
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On October 03 2011 16:26 ChrisGraphex wrote: i saw idra : D no he saw u
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Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced.
Edit: Seriously, he could have had 2 immortals and 1-2 colossus instead of the phoenix (and he would have won).
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lol @ you guys
it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it.
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collosus is the wrong response. T can switch to vikings anytime and P doesnt have enough gas to afford enough stalkers to protect collossi off 1 base. Best chance for jyp was to fight right after he killed the 2 tanks, maybe pull a few probes if he had to, at least save his natural. if he killed those 10 marines, he woulda still had his nat and puma woulda never had that critical mass of marines
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There is the factory. lol
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On October 03 2011 16:25 itsjuspeter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:24 Pajegetc wrote:On October 03 2011 16:21 Tsubbi wrote: have.. to.. resist.. hating.. on player instead of blizzard
man puma is really good but seeing him 1/1/1 for the 137th time is heartbreaking to say the least Especially after his amazing standard series in the NASL finals againsts MC :-/ If i remember... he did 1-1-1 against MC? I could be wrong. That was at IEM finals where he did 1-1-1 every game. In NASL he played standard and it was an epic 7 games series
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On October 03 2011 16:26 anrimayu wrote: Dont worry guys, patch 1.4 is coming soon and will fix everything!
oh wait.
Nerf that 5 second barracks build time !!!
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not gonna lie, I really enjoy watching protoss players squirm to these scv pulls just as zerg players suffered so many months ago(good thing terrans forgot about it :D)
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Everyone talking about how They were waiting for the Koreans to see the high level of Play... I enjoyed the Foreigner games much more than 1-1-1 domination . I really hope JYP crushes it atleast once.
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I can understand the hate on 111 most of the time but in this game it just seemed like JYP had no idea what to do after defending the first push. And now don't tell me that's because P are not used to holding the first attack
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Ok, game 2, tvp, Puma going... let me guess...
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Apparently playing to win is frowned upon on TL. Dont really get all the excuse making for hating it other than "it's too good stop beating people with it" and "it's boring."
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On October 03 2011 16:27 Montana[TK] wrote: lol @ you guys
it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it. Doesn't mean people have to like it, though. There shouldn't be a single build with a 90% winrate in any RTS, imho.
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On October 03 2011 16:27 Jehct wrote: Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced. I dont care how bad he deals with it. Hes using this build every single series makes it sad. Also 1-1-1 inc?
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111 once again! Lets see if this is all in version or not.
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You know what time it is?
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