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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:27:26
October 03 2011 07:26 GMT
#1641
On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote:
Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time...
After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him.


Because winning with a somewhat "imba" (please forgive me for saying this) build is bad thing. Duh

He is not the only one and he shouldn't be. 'Abuse' something that gives you wins.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1642
On October 03 2011 16:26 GreyKnight wrote:
JYP lost when the cloaked banshee killed 5 probes before the 1-1-1 even hit. You're strained economically from the 1-1-1 since you have to take natural and mine as much as you can but the banshee ruined it.

also desperation stargate at the end didn't help at all either.


Nothing JYP can do about that, Banshees are one of those things that gaurentee 3-4 worker kills if used competently.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:28:46
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1643
Main issue for Protoss vs Terran 1-1-1 is the lack of AOE without sacrificing Gateway units in the mid-game. Sentry and FF are not so effective in the mid-game when dealing with reactored marines.

KT best KT ~ 2014
mgl0x9
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States256 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1644
On October 03 2011 16:26 ChrisGraphex wrote:
i saw idra : D

no he saw u
Zerg Ownz your face off
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:27:52
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1645
Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced.

Edit: Seriously, he could have had 2 immortals and 1-2 colossus instead of the phoenix (and he would have won).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1646
another 1/1/1 incoming
yes
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1647
lol @ you guys

it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
HinagikUx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States178 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1648
collosus is the wrong response. T can switch to vikings anytime and P doesnt have enough gas to afford enough stalkers to protect collossi off 1 base. Best chance for jyp was to fight right after he killed the 2 tanks, maybe pull a few probes if he had to, at least save his natural. if he killed those 10 marines, he woulda still had his nat and puma woulda never had that critical mass of marines
uGpTaiga/HinagikUx NA Server
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1649
There is the factory. lol
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1650
On October 03 2011 16:25 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:24 Pajegetc wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:21 Tsubbi wrote:
have.. to.. resist.. hating.. on player instead of blizzard

man puma is really good but seeing him 1/1/1 for the 137th time is heartbreaking to say the least


Especially after his amazing standard series in the NASL finals againsts MC :-/


If i remember... he did 1-1-1 against MC? I could be wrong.

That was at IEM finals where he did 1-1-1 every game. In NASL he played standard and it was an epic 7 games series
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1651
On October 03 2011 16:26 anrimayu wrote:
Dont worry guys, patch 1.4 is coming soon and will fix everything!

oh wait.


Nerf that 5 second barracks build time !!!
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1652
not gonna lie, I really enjoy watching protoss players squirm to these scv pulls just as zerg players suffered so many months ago(good thing terrans forgot about it :D)
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1653
Everyone talking about how They were waiting for the Koreans to see the high level of Play... I enjoyed the Foreigner games much more than 1-1-1 domination . I really hope JYP crushes it atleast once.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1654
I can understand the hate on 111 most of the time but in this game it just seemed like JYP had no idea what to do after defending the first push. And now don't tell me that's because P are not used to holding the first attack
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1655
Ok, game 2, tvp, Puma going... let me guess...
Chicken gank op
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
October 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#1656
Apparently playing to win is frowned upon on TL. Dont really get all the excuse making for hating it other than "it's too good stop beating people with it" and "it's boring."
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#1657
On October 03 2011 16:27 Montana[TK] wrote:
lol @ you guys

it's a game, you play to win. If 1-1-1 gave him the biggest win% and this is really his last hurdle to winning the tourney he'd be fucking stupid to not do it.

Doesn't mean people have to like it, though. There shouldn't be a single build with a 90% winrate in any RTS, imho.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#1658
On October 03 2011 16:27 Jehct wrote:
Why are people talking about balance when JYP built 3 (4?) immortals and 2 phoenix to deal with 1 banshee and two tanks? He had nothing to deal with marines, that was his fault. Puma put out an amazing amount of pressure and it's pretty understandable that JYP couldn't keep his composure. That doesn't mean it's imbalanced.

I dont care how bad he deals with it. Hes using this build every single series makes it sad. Also 1-1-1 inc?
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#1659
111 once again! Lets see if this is all in version or not.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#1660
You know what time it is?
Chun-li since ST
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