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16 hatch vs a korean terran is pretty retaded unless you get lucky
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Sending out Ryung first. Now thats mean.
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Wowza! Bigs playing very greedy!
Edit: Very interesting explanation by catspijamas.
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Did SlayerS really send out Ryung first? Really?
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On October 02 2011 08:49 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 08:26 nath wrote:On October 02 2011 08:10 StarVe wrote:On October 02 2011 07:33 nath wrote:On October 02 2011 05:51 BjC wrote:On October 02 2011 05:22 rickybobby wrote: I would be surprised if slayers dropped a set to anyone other than thorzain What? do you even know how damn good the rest of the mouz team are? Mana has beaten s class Korean terrans 2-0 a number of times for one. --just seen your American and probabily trolling Europeans thorzain can take games off any korean, and might even 2 or 3 kill if slayers sends out b-teamers. but he will not allkill. mana can only be counted on to consistently beat koreans in pvt (and even then IMO at b-teamer level because NaDa played terrible in the tournaments MaNa beat him in, Elfi also 2-0'd NaDa and I dont think we can say Elfi is at S-Class PvT level rofl....), he is very good but korea is korea. and slayers has the best terrans of any team. i dont see him winning today. + Show Spoiler [the rest] + hasu is a good player but he's not on the level to be counted on against korean terrans or zergs, pvp is a coinflip even after the patch. he will likely not get a kill
morrow is a player i really admire but he is also not on a korean level. when you transcend the foreigner level, playing TvZ doesn't work as well as the terrans that have all their mechanics being practiced in all three matchups. same goes for his ZvT which he'd need to shine in to take games. his tvz and zvt KNOWLEDGE is unparalleled, i just dont think his execution can match the level needed to beat korean Zergs and Terrans (mostly his ZvT i think, while intelligent, wont be enough to take a game off Slayers TvZ)
bigs is self explanatory, he wont be able to take a game off a korean
but yeah im american and us <<<< eu = kr, right? keep deluding yourself. MorroW can snipe a toss and has a chance against a Terran, MaNa might bring down a terran and HasuObs has chances in any matchup if it goes 20+ minutes. Liquid didn't do badly last week and I think if SlayerS send out a similar team, Mouz could bring it to a deciding ninth game. If they send out a few actual GSL players it'll be a completely different story. Taeja or others could potentially all-kill. i honestly don't think morrow can snipe a toss unless its some guy we've never heard of before from SlayerS. he probably couldn't beat alicia, even though ret did. i also disagree with your statement about hasuobs, even though his lategame is good vs non-koreans. any good slayers terran will destroy him, no offense (i do realize hes your countryman and we can always hope) mana and thorzain are the only two people i see taking games, unless something wacky happens. Two months ago Morrow played practice games against SlayersPuzzle (then Zenex) on his stream and absolutely destroyed him about ten times in a row. He also beat HuK pretty handily. I haven't seen him play ZvP in a while but he really was sick good at that matchup - best in EU at that time. About Hasu, that's got nothing to do with being a countryman, he just has solid lategame as you said - of course he'd have problems against good slayers terrans, but I could see him beating SlayerSLots and the like, also Boxer if he plays ( he 3-0'd him in TSL 3). Also it's only one game for every matchup so anything can happen. If Haypro can take games (even if he played very well), I'd say any Mouz player has a chance to do that, too. I'll take your word for it when it comes to Morrow's ZvP in practice games vs koreans. Haven't watched those games.
I do like Hasu, i still dont think today is the day where he plays on a korean level (imho tsl doesn't count because of the below). maybe in due time...
However, about the bolded: Lag. all koreans looked super chobo in tsl3. adelscott beat MVP. goody beat nestea (rofl). Lag. (not that the foreigners played bad, but if both were on KR im pretty sure results would be different)
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He pulled so many drones that ryung still came out ahead
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Wats the standings gais?
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On October 02 2011 09:09 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 08:49 StarVe wrote:On October 02 2011 08:26 nath wrote:On October 02 2011 08:10 StarVe wrote:On October 02 2011 07:33 nath wrote:On October 02 2011 05:51 BjC wrote:On October 02 2011 05:22 rickybobby wrote: I would be surprised if slayers dropped a set to anyone other than thorzain What? do you even know how damn good the rest of the mouz team are? Mana has beaten s class Korean terrans 2-0 a number of times for one. --just seen your American and probabily trolling Europeans thorzain can take games off any korean, and might even 2 or 3 kill if slayers sends out b-teamers. but he will not allkill. mana can only be counted on to consistently beat koreans in pvt (and even then IMO at b-teamer level because NaDa played terrible in the tournaments MaNa beat him in, Elfi also 2-0'd NaDa and I dont think we can say Elfi is at S-Class PvT level rofl....), he is very good but korea is korea. and slayers has the best terrans of any team. i dont see him winning today. + Show Spoiler [the rest] + hasu is a good player but he's not on the level to be counted on against korean terrans or zergs, pvp is a coinflip even after the patch. he will likely not get a kill
morrow is a player i really admire but he is also not on a korean level. when you transcend the foreigner level, playing TvZ doesn't work as well as the terrans that have all their mechanics being practiced in all three matchups. same goes for his ZvT which he'd need to shine in to take games. his tvz and zvt KNOWLEDGE is unparalleled, i just dont think his execution can match the level needed to beat korean Zergs and Terrans (mostly his ZvT i think, while intelligent, wont be enough to take a game off Slayers TvZ)
bigs is self explanatory, he wont be able to take a game off a korean
but yeah im american and us <<<< eu = kr, right? keep deluding yourself. MorroW can snipe a toss and has a chance against a Terran, MaNa might bring down a terran and HasuObs has chances in any matchup if it goes 20+ minutes. Liquid didn't do badly last week and I think if SlayerS send out a similar team, Mouz could bring it to a deciding ninth game. If they send out a few actual GSL players it'll be a completely different story. Taeja or others could potentially all-kill. i honestly don't think morrow can snipe a toss unless its some guy we've never heard of before from SlayerS. he probably couldn't beat alicia, even though ret did. i also disagree with your statement about hasuobs, even though his lategame is good vs non-koreans. any good slayers terran will destroy him, no offense (i do realize hes your countryman and we can always hope) mana and thorzain are the only two people i see taking games, unless something wacky happens. Two months ago Morrow played practice games against SlayersPuzzle (then Zenex) on his stream and absolutely destroyed him about ten times in a row. He also beat HuK pretty handily. I haven't seen him play ZvP in a while but he really was sick good at that matchup - best in EU at that time. About Hasu, that's got nothing to do with being a countryman, he just has solid lategame as you said - of course he'd have problems against good slayers terrans, but I could see him beating SlayerSLots and the like, also Boxer if he plays ( he 3-0'd him in TSL 3). Also it's only one game for every matchup so anything can happen. If Haypro can take games (even if he played very well), I'd say any Mouz player has a chance to do that, too. I'll take your word for it when it comes to Morrow's ZvP in practice games vs koreans. Haven't watched those games. I do like Hasu, i still dont think today is the day where he plays on a korean level (imho tsl doesn't count because of the below). maybe in due time... However, about the bolded: Lag. all koreans looked super chobo in tsl3. adelscott beat MVP. goody beat nestea (rofl). Lag. (not that the foreigners played bad, but if both were on KR im pretty sure results would be different)
I'm not delusional about skill differences, but that's not the point, IPL has exactly the same conditions, KR vs EU, so that won't change.
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Holy, Ryung up 1 base und 20 supply 10 minutes in the game without any major clash.
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Ryung completely dominating as expected
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On October 02 2011 09:13 mordk wrote: Ryung completely dominating as expected
he is playing clean and standard and proper macro
his opponent is playing scared
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lol Ryung must have killed like 60 units and lost like 1
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omg ryung is outplayin bigs hardcore
haha ironically ryung is playin with an account named "Zerg" and it looks like that also, 4 base ryung vs 2 base bigs lol
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2 base hive into 3 ultra?
LOL this is great
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Just tuned in. Bigs seems to be very dead.
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not sure wtf biggs was going for there
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Boring game was boring. I don't think it could've been anymore one-sided.
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BCs... harsh. wp by slayers
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On October 02 2011 09:14 SafeAsCheese wrote: his opponent is playing scared Ya, he delayed his 3rd forever, althoug Ryung applied only little pressure in the early midgame.
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