• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:45
CEST 12:45
KST 19:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down10ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League53Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.165
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP
Tourneys
[BSL23] RO24 Group Stage [ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9024 users

[GSTL] Round of 4 Day 1 - Page 31

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 127 Next
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#601
On September 29 2011 19:13 darkscream wrote:
Once again, does anyone notice that someone sucks at observing? Is it Doa operating it or a korean from GomTV? I'm almost certain it's Doa. Wolf was talking about JYP sniping a queen with zealots for like, 30 seconds, and the observer could not actually show us what was going on the screen.

I've seen this EVERY TIME Doa is casting. He's always looking at the wrong spot, showing us some probes popping out of a nexus rather than the combat we want to see.


Fail
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Ezkaton
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Japan416 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#602
On September 29 2011 19:13 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:12 Ezkaton wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:11 Primadog wrote:
JYP has the worst vT record in the Korean database, why won't they just send in a Terran?


I think they really want to save MarineKing for the Ace. I cant think of any other Prime Terrans now that Polt has joined TSL


dude, how can you forget Maka?


Oh shit my bad!
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#603
On September 29 2011 19:10 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:06 Elem wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:05 parazice wrote:
LOL Prime new Zerg team?
LingKingPrime.WE inc.

TBH, ling king is Stephano and he doesn't play for Prime.

Relevant:
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
Piggiez
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#604
Killer, JYP, and Sage. Our last hope(s..)
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#605
On September 29 2011 19:13 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:13 Demonace34 wrote:
(P)JYP<Daybreak>BBoongBBong!?!?!

JYP spawns at 7 and BB spawns at 1.

2:15 Nexus first into forge from JYP, BB going speedling expand. JYP also being annoying as hell with his probe scout.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
September 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#606
On September 29 2011 19:10 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:06 Elem wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:05 parazice wrote:
LOL Prime new Zerg team?
LingKingPrime.WE inc.

TBH, ling king is Stephano and he doesn't play for Prime.


no one even knows what team he plays for anyway
dem baguettes
theres something in them
Liquipedia@jkursk
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#607
On September 29 2011 19:12 MetalSlug wrote:
I dont understand all the "another Zerg ?" comments. Zerg is a pretty solid choice against Protoss in GSTL and just because he beat 2 Players that play Zerg doesnt mean he will also beat another. If BBongBBong plays better than his 2 teammate (which im sure he will) he will win regardles of how many Zergs failed before him.
JYP is not unbeatable PvZ.

Go look at his TLPD vZ and then his vT
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#608
On September 29 2011 19:13 darkscream wrote:
Once again, does anyone notice that someone sucks at observing? Is it Doa operating it or a korean from GomTV? I'm almost certain it's Doa. Wolf was talking about JYP sniping a queen with zealots for like, 30 seconds, and the observer could not actually show us what was going on the screen.

I've seen this EVERY TIME Doa is casting. He's always looking at the wrong spot, showing us some probes popping out of a nexus rather than the combat we want to see.


Its been well known for a long time who does the observing, its ST_Legend.
Love is more fun than hate.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 10:16:13
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#609
On September 29 2011 19:13 darkscream wrote:
Once again, does anyone notice that someone sucks at observing? Is it Doa operating it or a korean from GomTV? I'm almost certain it's Doa. Wolf was talking about JYP sniping a queen with zealots for like, 30 seconds, and the observer could not actually show us what was going on the screen.

I've seen this EVERY TIME Doa is casting. He's always looking at the wrong spot, showing us some probes popping out of a nexus rather than the combat we want to see.


Nice try, there's a dedicated observer (ST_Legend, ST b-teamer), they just run into some issues since he's a korean speaker at times.

Doa sees what we see because he's the play by play caster, Wolf has his own client that allows him to keep track of other things going on since he's analysis (Doa can obviously glance across at this too)
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#610
On September 29 2011 19:13 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:12 Ezkaton wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:11 Primadog wrote:
JYP has the worst vT record in the Korean database, why won't they just send in a Terran?


I think they really want to save MarineKing for the Ace. I cant think of any other Prime Terrans now that Polt has joined TSL


dude, how can you forget Maka?

Everybody forgets Maka ;_;
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 10:15:50
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#611
On September 29 2011 19:12 Atreides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:11 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Love watching these new style Protosses. They're probably the most exciting players to watch right now.


He did like a 7 gate, +2 blink push that game. Which isn't new in the slightest he just controlled great and the zerg was greedy. But we've all seen that a million times.

(not to say it wasn't a good game)

There was no need to anything fancy in that game. The zerg took 4 bases, barely had drones to saturate three (but couldn't because the bases were so vulnerable), made roach/hydra for some reason and was in perfect spawning positions for zvp on that map.

It was basically a walk over.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#612
Doa is not the observer. its a Korean
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#613
On September 29 2011 19:13 darkscream wrote:
Once again, does anyone notice that someone sucks at observing? Is it Doa operating it or a korean from GomTV? I'm almost certain it's Doa. Wolf was talking about JYP sniping a queen with zealots for like, 30 seconds, and the observer could not actually show us what was going on the screen.

I've seen this EVERY TIME Doa is casting. He's always looking at the wrong spot, showing us some probes popping out of a nexus rather than the combat we want to see.


We see the korean observer screen. So its quite possible for wolf/doa to look at or talk about something on their other screen that we can't see. But nothing they can do about it.

That said, the korean observers are definitely a MILLION times better than if they were observing themselves.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 10:16:47
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#614
JYP is often delaying the hatchery by 1 minute or 1.30 minute with his probe (without pyloning the natural)
Added with his nexus first, often his nexus finishes as soon as the hatch starts.
I learned that when analysing the code A protoss games :D Everyone of them are doing probe harass, I know it's very standard but some player manage to delay the hatch for 10-30 seconds while other by more than a minute, it changes a lot of things.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#615
On September 29 2011 19:14 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:13 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:13 Demonace34 wrote:
(P)JYP<Daybreak>BBoongBBong!?!?!

JYP spawns at 7 and BB spawns at 1.

2:15 Nexus first into forge from JYP, BB going speedling expand. JYP also being annoying as hell with his probe scout.

3:50 Hatch goes up for BB, metabolic boost halfway done. Zerglings chasing after the probe.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#616
On September 29 2011 19:14 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:12 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:11 Primadog wrote:
JYP has the worst vT record in the Korean database, why won't they just send in a Terran?

I've been wondering this as well. BboongBboong is strong, but a 3rd Zerg in a row after what happened to the first 2 is really risky.


JYP has been on the receiving end thought of a lot, I mean, a lot of 1-1-1 all ins. Especially in the up and down matches.


Speaking of the up/down matches.... it could be the reason Prime is hesitant to send out MKP (because JYP probably practised hardcore against MKP's version of 1-1-1)
Liquipedia"Expert"
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#617
Heh, another fast 3rd against FFE.

On September 29 2011 19:14 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:12 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:11 Primadog wrote:
JYP has the worst vT record in the Korean database, why won't they just send in a Terran?

I've been wondering this as well. BboongBboong is strong, but a 3rd Zerg in a row after what happened to the first 2 is really risky.


JYP has been on the receiving end thought of a lot, I mean, a lot of 1-1-1 all ins. Especially in the up and down matches.

Perhaps Coach Lee told Clide and Polt to 1-1-1 him over and over, and until JYP won 10 games in a row against it, he didn't get dinner.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
September 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#618
Amazed they send out another Zerg. Prime ain't SlayerS and Zerg ain't Terran :'D.

On a more serous note. I wonder why they didn't send out at least one Terran yet against JYP.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
September 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#619
On September 29 2011 19:15 Seditary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:13 darkscream wrote:
Once again, does anyone notice that someone sucks at observing? Is it Doa operating it or a korean from GomTV? I'm almost certain it's Doa. Wolf was talking about JYP sniping a queen with zealots for like, 30 seconds, and the observer could not actually show us what was going on the screen.

I've seen this EVERY TIME Doa is casting. He's always looking at the wrong spot, showing us some probes popping out of a nexus rather than the combat we want to see.


Its been well known for a long time who does the observing, its ST_Legend.

He of the fine music taste.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
September 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#620
Wolf and Doa are so much better together than with Moletrap, they actually get eachothers references
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 127 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko261
Rex 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43639
Calm 7576
Shuttle 1247
Bisu 749
firebathero 647
EffOrt 414
Mini 256
actioN 238
Stork 217
Soma 193
[ Show more ]
Snow 124
Light 122
Dewaltoss 106
Last 104
Leta 98
ZerO 90
Rush 78
Pusan 64
Mong 62
Hyun 58
Barracks 49
hero 47
Killer 37
910 37
Sharp 35
NotJumperer 26
NaDa 25
Hm[arnc] 23
sorry 19
Sacsri 17
Terrorterran 17
Shinee 15
HiyA 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Noble 10
Free 8
Bishop 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5515
XaKoH 502
XcaliburYe126
Fuzer 101
League of Legends
JimRising 346
Counter-Strike
dupreeh321
allub297
x6flipin276
gobbtv126
edward119
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr58
Other Games
summit1g8940
singsing1438
crisheroes273
ZerO(Twitch)8
RotterdaM1
DeMusliM0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 950
Other Games
gamesdonequick423
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 56
StarCraft 2
WardiTV1
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH281
• LUISG 29
• StrangeGG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix5
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1314
• Stunt402
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
15m
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
Rex32
OSC
12h 15m
FEL
1d 22h
Patches Events
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
FEL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-20
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.