Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of.
Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional.
Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country.
Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo
Next time at work, I will state "I am tired" in the morning, then whenever I make a mistake I can just blame that. Sure he was tired, but if you are SO much better, then you win anyway. Your statement was pretty much the essence of someone being butthurt...
Bring a work quote into a proffesional sport anaylsis is pretty lame.
If your tired in any sport you cannot perform to your best level fact (i guess even at work) but if your tired for no reason of your own (being jet lagged is hard to help when you have a tough schedule) is going to effect your game play on multiple levels, micro macro and mechanics will all be effected. You saw after game 2 he was begining to falter pretty badly. BUT like everyone seems to be saying Elfi > HuK even though one is clearly better at the game than the other :S Makes no sense, no 1 is arguing he won, but he won vs a player who was tired and on paper 100x better than him, why are people jumping on the friggin band waggen saying Elfi is a fkn PvP god, i bet theres fkn Masters players on EU with better win rate than Elfi -_- and Elfi is 60% win rate PvP on the EU ladder how is that even a good argument lol?
Tired or NOT, elfi is nearly 75% PvP on TLPD, and his last loss in boX against toss was in JUNE against white-ra. He IS good. Then again, HuK is good too, no one is denying that. It's a fact Elfi is veeeery good in PvP, him winning is neither an UPSET nor a GIVEN.
Stop arguing, both are good players, if you underperform because you're too tired, maybe cut a bit into your tournament schedule. It's his fault, no one else's.
READ my post!! I said he has his amazing win rate vs protos...BUT its vs awful EU protos, where the best EU protos is supposidly Mana now Naniwa has gone to Korea.
Mana is constantly called awful by Idra saying he is over rated and turtles up and all ins u ex cruncher style.
The only notable games he has won since his loss in PvP to White ra is a 2-1 victory over Mana. in IEM, and mana if you look on his TLPD is his 2nd worst match up with a 56% win rate. So this back ups my point Elfi has an amazing PvP record vs mediocre EU protos players....well done.
He has now beaten HuK 3-1 in BO5 PvP, and everyone is saying he is a PvP god because of it.
And that loss to white ra in PvP is not good to brag about as White Ra has a 45% win rate in PvP his worst match up BY FAR and he still beat Elfi 2-0 in it? lol
I wish being THIS clueless was perm-bannable. "Awful EU protosses"; Hasuobs got further than IdrA in TSL3. And the "MaNa is constantly called awful by idra" made me laugh. You don't happen to pick up on WHEN idra calls mana awful? It's when mana beats idra. He beat him in mouz vs eg clan war AND in the IPL. He beats idra every time they meet. "Cruncher style turtle all in" like why do u say shit like this? It's just blatant lieing. It's like me saying "idra 6pooled every game in his gaming career". It's just blatant lies that makes u look retarded. Just because mana doesn't like to go the twilight path in pvz, he's a turteler? Going colossus makes u turtle? Watch his stream and then talk about him perhaps? He can't go out with his entire army and be agressive because his army doesn't consist of blink stalkers that can harass and get away. He gets 2-3 warp prism (+ speed) and harasses everywhere. And turtle? he is expanding agressively. He takes his 3rd at 9minutes forcing the Zerg to be agressive. Check MaNa's facebook for a game vs him and lalush and try compare him to cruncher again, dumbass. Also, Elfi>HuK. Proven before, proven again.
Wow your discussing events that are pre patches old bro. Hassuhobs got further than idra in TSL 3, that point makes Hassuhobs better than idra...well done sir. NO im saying, Hassuhobs is on a friging bad streak look at his NASL record for this season and who he has lost to recently he is playing in a slump he is not playing his level in TSL 3, he hasnt for a while, When he lost 3-2 to mana after going 2-0 up in IEM where idra beat mana 3-1 -_- in the final.
Elfi was doing similar tactics to Mana style ZvP where he was sitting back getting 2/3 bases when possible and then moving out with his 200/200 to beat idra army. He did this and won on some occasions but then idra found that he cud just roach ling all in and his miminal micro would win.
ToD is a good protos, BUT him himself has said his PvP is AWFUL and his worst match up and hates playing it, to beat him in PvP is not a big feat.
Whats point watching mana stream to find out what tactics he does, when in tournaments he does the turtle to 200/200 on 2/3 bases (if map allows it, crevasse tal darim etc etc) then he walks out and owns a zerg he dones this many times in tournament play.
Elfi > HuK deffo bro, Elfi would get round of 8 GSL every season aswell i agree, he is much better. Lol you talk out of your ass.
Elfi beat HuK in a PvP i agree, he won 3-1, HuKs game was off everyone commented how he missed an FF on the ramp, how he didnt even think about going 4 gate vs 4gate only on metalopolis where his 4gate timing was off thus he lost, he didnt straight up play elfi in 4gate vs 4gate as u would on tal darim, but who cares all im saying is Elfi is not better at PvP than HuK im saying HuK is better over all in PvP than Elfi, but Elfi beat him today.
Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of.
Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional.
Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country.
Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo
Next time at work, I will state "I am tired" in the morning, then whenever I make a mistake I can just blame that. Sure he was tired, but if you are SO much better, then you win anyway. Your statement was pretty much the essence of someone being butthurt...
Bring a work quote into a proffesional sport anaylsis is pretty lame.
If your tired in any sport you cannot perform to your best level fact (i guess even at work) but if your tired for no reason of your own (being jet lagged is hard to help when you have a tough schedule) is going to effect your game play on multiple levels, micro macro and mechanics will all be effected. You saw after game 2 he was begining to falter pretty badly. BUT like everyone seems to be saying Elfi > HuK even though one is clearly better at the game than the other :S Makes no sense, no 1 is arguing he won, but he won vs a player who was tired and on paper 100x better than him, why are people jumping on the friggin band waggen saying Elfi is a fkn PvP god, i bet theres fkn Masters players on EU with better win rate than Elfi -_- and Elfi is 60% win rate PvP on the EU ladder how is that even a good argument lol?
Tired or NOT, elfi is nearly 75% PvP on TLPD, and his last loss in boX against toss was in JUNE against white-ra. He IS good. Then again, HuK is good too, no one is denying that. It's a fact Elfi is veeeery good in PvP, him winning is neither an UPSET nor a GIVEN.
Stop arguing, both are good players, if you underperform because you're too tired, maybe cut a bit into your tournament schedule. It's his fault, no one else's.
READ my post!! I said he has his amazing win rate vs protos...BUT its vs awful EU protos, where the best EU protos is supposidly Mana now Naniwa has gone to Korea.
Mana is constantly called awful by Idra saying he is over rated and turtles up and all ins u ex cruncher style.
The only notable games he has won since his loss in PvP to White ra is a 2-1 victory over Mana. in IEM, and mana if you look on his TLPD is his 2nd worst match up with a 56% win rate. So this back ups my point Elfi has an amazing PvP record vs mediocre EU protos players....well done.
He has now beaten HuK 3-1 in BO5 PvP, and everyone is saying he is a PvP god because of it.
And that loss to white ra in PvP is not good to brag about as White Ra has a 45% win rate in PvP his worst match up BY FAR and he still beat Elfi 2-0 in it? lol
I wish being THIS clueless was perm-bannable. "Awful EU protosses"; Hasuobs got further than IdrA in TSL3. And the "MaNa is constantly called awful by idra" made me laugh. You don't happen to pick up on WHEN idra calls mana awful? It's when mana beats idra. He beat him in mouz vs eg clan war AND in the IPL. He beats idra every time they meet. "Cruncher style turtle all in" like why do u say shit like this? It's just blatant lieing. It's like me saying "idra 6pooled every game in his gaming career". It's just blatant lies that makes u look retarded. Just because mana doesn't like to go the twilight path in pvz, he's a turteler? Going colossus makes u turtle? Watch his stream and then talk about him perhaps? He can't go out with his entire army and be agressive because his army doesn't consist of blink stalkers that can harass and get away. He gets 2-3 warp prism (+ speed) and harasses everywhere. And turtle? he is expanding agressively. He takes his 3rd at 9minutes forcing the Zerg to be agressive. Check MaNa's facebook for a game vs him and lalush and try compare him to cruncher again, dumbass. Also, Elfi>HuK. Proven before, proven again.
Wow your discussing events that are pre patches old bro. Hassuhobs got further than idra in TSL 3, that point makes Hassuhobs better than idra...well done sir. NO im saying, Hassuhobs is on a friging bad streak look at his NASL record for this season and who he has lost to recently he is playing in a slump he is not playing his level in TSL 3, he hasnt for a while, When he lost 3-2 to mana after going 2-0 up in IEM where idra beat mana 3-1 -_- in the final.
Elfi was doing similar tactics to Mana style ZvP where he was sitting back getting 2/3 bases when possible and then moving out with his 200/200 to beat idra army. He did this and won on some occasions but then idra found that he cud just roach ling all in and his miminal micro would win.
ToD is a good protos, BUT him himself has said his PvP is AWFUL and his worst match up and hates playing it, to beat him in PvP is not a big feat.
Whats point watching mana stream to find out what tactics he does, when in tournaments he does the turtle to 200/200 on 2/3 bases (if map allows it, crevasse tal darim etc etc) then he walks out and owns a zerg he dones this many times in tournament play.
Elfi > HuK deffo bro, Elfi would get round of 8 GSL every season aswell i agree, he is much better. Lol you talk out of your ass.
Elfi beat HuK in a PvP i agree, he won 3-1, HuKs game was off everyone commented how he missed an FF on the ramp, how he didnt even think about going 4 gate vs 4gate only on metalopolis where his 4gate timing was off thus he lost, he didnt straight up play elfi in 4gate vs 4gate as u would on tal darim, but who cares all im saying is Elfi is not better at PvP than HuK im saying HuK is better over all in PvP than Elfi, but Elfi beat him today.
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