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Best matchup of gcpl so far, gl liquid
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HerO vs ThorZain! :D We're in for a treat of course!
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This will be great. But its a shame that the matches are only bo1 in GCPL. :/
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On September 24 2011 12:12 Redox wrote: This will be great. But its a shame that the matches are only bo1 in GCPL. :/
its basically gstl except there is a fixed line up
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morrow should show up as t here as he will be TvZ'ing ret I assume?
In either case I am jacked! Cannot wait to see these games
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On September 24 2011 12:21 iNcontroL wrote: morrow should show up as t here as he will be TvZ'ing ret I assume?
In either case I am jacked! Cannot wait to see these games
did he tvz vs machine when you guys played?
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On September 24 2011 12:25 Shaetan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 12:21 iNcontroL wrote: morrow should show up as t here as he will be TvZ'ing ret I assume?
In either case I am jacked! Cannot wait to see these games did he tvz vs machine when you guys played? He just always plays tvz now instead of zvz. But either way, there games look SICK!
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Easy win 4 mouz!
Hasu > Sheth Thor > Hero Mana >> Haypro Morrow (T) < Ret
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Favorite team vs. Second favorite team. Should be some awesome games! I'm predicting 3-1 for Mouz.
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sheth thorzain mana ret
then depends on ace
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Hasu>Sheth Thorzain>Hero Mana>Haypro MorroW<Ret
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Hero is getting his rematch
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On September 24 2011 12:15 HuKPOWA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 12:12 Redox wrote: This will be great. But its a shame that the matches are only bo1 in GCPL. :/ its basically gstl except there is a fixed line up
It's basically Proleague.
Shame about the playoff structure though, this match has no real importance other than as a morale boost for the winning team.
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Liquid gonna own no question about that. HasuObs ? Sheth ThorZaIN < HerO MaNa < HayprO MorroW ? Ret Ace <Crevasse> Ace
ThorZaIN marine tank banshee all ins and HerO holds it
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uhh, that looks like a 3-0 to Mouz. Ret would take g4 i imagine, but it looks 3-0
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On September 24 2011 18:26 Probe1 wrote: Liquid gonna own no question about that. HasuObs ? Sheth ThorZaIN < HerO MaNa < HayprO MorroW ? Ret Ace <Crevasse> Ace
ThorZaIN marine tank banshee all ins and HerO holds it
Mana losing to Haypro? You must know something that I don't ._.
I can easily see Mouz clean sweeping this.
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HasuObs <The Shattered Temple> Sheth ThorZaIN <Xel'Naga Caverns> HerO MaNa <Dual Sight> HayprO MorroW <Bel'shir Beach> Ret Ace Thorzain <Crevasse> Ret
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This is gonna go to the ace, IMO.
HasuObs < Sheth ThorZaIN > HerO MaNa > HayprO MorroW < Ret
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Maps are very much in favor of Liquid actually.
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HasuObs > Sheth ThorZain < HerO MaNa > HayPrO MorroW > Ret
These are some sick matches! cannot wait!
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4-0 or 3-1 for mouz depending on morrow vs ret
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HasuObs < Sheth ThorZain > HerO MaNa > HayPrO MorroW < Ret ThorZain <<<<<<<<<<< Tyler ThorZain gets humiliated so much he retires. I can dream, can't I?
But seriously, I predict ace to be Thorzain > Ret/Hero
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Liquid has been rolling everyone so far, but man, this is gonna be a tough one!
Best of luck to both teams, i know for sure this is gonna be sick!
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On September 24 2011 18:26 Probe1 wrote: Liquid gonna own no question about that. HasuObs ? Sheth ThorZaIN < HerO MaNa < HayprO MorroW ? Ret Ace <Crevasse> Ace
ThorZaIN marine tank banshee all ins and HerO holds it You watch Dreamhack? Thorzain's got this. Mouz to win. Hasu vs Sheth could go either way, but T-Zain's gonna beat Hero, Mana over Haypro, Ret over a Terran Morrow, with Spoon Terran crushing the ace match.
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i would be really surprised if HasuObs beat sheth i think the HerO/Thorzain match will be closest
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Kinda funny Liquid not sending any Terrans out. Guess you never know where Mana is lurking ;P
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I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^
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On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D
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On September 24 2011 19:01 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D You seen Mana play? He doesn't lose PvT.
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These are going to be really great games Looking forward to a win from mouz, but it will be really close. 3-2 for Mouz ... with Ret and Sheth taking their series.
Mouz fightiiiing
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On September 24 2011 19:01 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D Well if the team sends only terrans they might win
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On September 24 2011 19:01 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D what now? are you serious?
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HasuObs < Sheth ThorZaIN < Hero MaNa > HayprO Morrow < Ret
As much as I would want ThorZaIN to win, Hero seems slightly better in PvT than ThorZaIN in TvP. Although, It could go either way so Ace match would decide which team wins.
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On September 24 2011 19:04 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 19:01 PredY wrote:On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D You seen Mana play? He doesn't lose PvT.
First of all, he was joking. Secondly, Predy has seen way more than you could imagine.
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normally i chear 4 liquid,sry not this time Mouz 3:2!
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Mouz is going to win this one
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Mouz has a scary team man... Come on TL!
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Hasuobs > Sheth - This could go either way but im rooting for hasuobs ThorZaIN > Hero - Thorzain just 2-0'd hero at Dreamhack Valencia last week and im predicting another win for him here MaNa > Haypro - Haypro is pretty decent but MaNa outclasses him sry. Morrow < Ret - Morrow's TvZ isn't super good atm considering he just switched back to T against Z a couple of months ago. No chance of him beating a top Zerg like Ret.
If it goes down to an ace match, it will probably be ThorZaIN vs Ret which will be pretty close but since i'm a thorzain fan it will be 2-1 to ThorZaIN!!
Mouz to win 3:1 or 3:2!
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Hasu > Seth Tzain> hero Mana>Haypro ez 3-0 for mouz!
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On September 24 2011 19:18 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 19:04 MCDayC wrote:On September 24 2011 19:01 PredY wrote:On September 24 2011 18:59 Frankon wrote: I fear that Haypro might suprise us.... To bad Liquid isnt fielding any terrans... Liquid found a best strategy versus mouz. Never send a terran since its auto win for mouz ^^ sending a terran is an autowin for the opponent. you dont often hear that :D You seen Mana play? He doesn't lose PvT. First of all, he was joking. Secondly, Predy has seen way more than you could imagine. Yeah.... Dreamhack Summer 2011. Predy vs Goody ^^
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I think MOUZ will win this.
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This will be a nice warmup for TL for when they face SlayerS. I think 3 of 4 games could go either way with Mana having the advantage in his matchup, but I have seen Haypro pull off some unexpected upsets. Thorzain vs. Hero should be the highlight. After watching Hero's impeccable play in WCG Korea it's hard to bet against him, but I think Thorzain will pull it out in a 30+ minute game. If the Morrow vs. Ret game goes over 15 minutes, Ret will win, but I've seen Morrow pull off some really nice timing attacks lately so he may catch Ret off-guard. Sheth vs. HasuObs is probably the hardest one to call, but for the sake of not losing the first 3 matches in a row, Sheth is really gonna need to come up with a win.
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Great matchup, if Hasuobs can take down Sheth then Mouz could take it 3-0! Wanna see an ace though here's hoping.
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Sweet match-up. Could really go either way. Getting hyped up. :D
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Very nice match, cant wait for it
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When was the last time Morrow did ZvZ o.o It'll be interesting to see how he plays.
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On September 25 2011 00:32 Animostas wrote: When was the last time Morrow did ZvZ o.o It'll be interesting to see how he plays.
He plays T vs Z
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On September 25 2011 00:32 Animostas wrote: When was the last time Morrow did ZvZ o.o It'll be interesting to see how he plays. I'm pretty sure he'll be T vs. Ret, just the TLPD icon for him is always Z.
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Hasuobs<Sheth Thorzain>Hero ( i love you hero but thorzain kind of unstobbale in PvT) Manga>Haypro (But who knows Haypro like to upset every once in a while) Morrow<Ret
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I don't think that Morrow v Ret will happen. 3-0 Liquid.
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Yeah im sure this is going to the ace match. Rooting for TL though!!
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Should be an awesome match, loads of great players. GL to both teams. ^^
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On September 24 2011 19:37 Clazziquai10 wrote: Hasuobs > Sheth - This could go either way but im rooting for hasuobs ThorZaIN > Hero - Thorzain just 2-0'd hero at Dreamhack Valencia last week and im predicting another win for him here MaNa > Haypro - Haypro is pretty decent but MaNa outclasses him sry. Morrow < Ret - Morrow's TvZ isn't super good atm considering he just switched back to T against Z a couple of months ago. No chance of him beating a top Zerg like Ret.
If it goes down to an ace match, it will probably be ThorZaIN vs Ret which will be pretty close but since i'm a thorzain fan it will be 2-1 to ThorZaIN!!
Mouz to win 3:1 or 3:2!
it wont be 3-1 cos its a BO5 if Mouz go 3-0like you predict,they wont play morrow vs ret and wont have an ace match will they
i think its an easy win for mouz imo. 3-0 or possibly 3-1 - sheth and hero are both capable of winning
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Gogo Liquid! Sheth open this up with a beating of a Protoss, everyone loves that xD
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Why does this bozo think getting in shape is a bad thing, if anything he must be feeling better and thus playing better. Progamers aren't robots, they can have fun, workout, etc.. if they want to.
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i want a D3 beta key too
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This is gonna be epic stuff man, all those sexy names battling it out will defiantly occupy my time
Liquid all the way!!! Terran ace? :p
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Gogo Liquid!! Can't wait for Hero vs Master Jane, hoping to see some WP play.
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I feel Morrow will never reach the very top playing two races. It means that one third of his games won't improve the other two thirds. And 2/3 of the game won't improve the other 1/3. As such, he is only getting 50% out of his practice.
He used to be the best zerg in Europe but ever since switching to two races he has slowly been getting worse and worse. As such, several zerg are ahead of him now, including Nerchio, Stephano and ret. Which is only natural really as the other players always improve their race no matter which match-up they play but he only does it half the time. They can also ladder freely when-ever they need extra practice without having a partner.
A shame really, seems like he lost his confidence after that 4-0 game with Nerchio.
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banelings for sheth would be nice
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God sheth why do you have so many blords but nothing to put underneath them =/
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On September 25 2011 02:19 Paladia wrote: I feel Morrow will never reach the very top playing two races. It means that one third of his games won't improve the other two thirds. And 2/3 of the game won't improve the other 1/3. As such, he is only getting 50% out of his practice.
He used to be the best zerg in Europe but ever since switching to two races he has slowly been getting worse and worse. As such, several zerg are ahead of him now, including Nerchio, Stephano and ret. Which is only natural really as the other players always improve their race no matter which match-up they play but he only does it half the time. They can also ladder freely when-ever they need extra practice without having a partner.
A shame really, seems like he lost his confidence after that 4-0 game with Nerchio.
We'll see how much he can improve once he's going to Korea. I think that'll help him quite a bit.
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Zergs are finding that they still have to actually engage well once they secure that big economic advantage. :X
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Sheth donates his army. Twice. -_-
Game still going, but Sheth doesn't have much.
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Godamnit Sheth.. that was a won game after denying the 3rd for the longest time but then he decided to mass broods with no real ground support and extremely late infestors.
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This units lost tab was just hilarious. HasuObs unit control late game top notch.
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On September 25 2011 02:29 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:19 Paladia wrote: I feel Morrow will never reach the very top playing two races. It means that one third of his games won't improve the other two thirds. And 2/3 of the game won't improve the other 1/3. As such, he is only getting 50% out of his practice.
He used to be the best zerg in Europe but ever since switching to two races he has slowly been getting worse and worse. As such, several zerg are ahead of him now, including Nerchio, Stephano and ret. Which is only natural really as the other players always improve their race no matter which match-up they play but he only does it half the time. They can also ladder freely when-ever they need extra practice without having a partner.
A shame really, seems like he lost his confidence after that 4-0 game with Nerchio. We'll see how much he can improve once he's going to Korea. I think that'll help him quite a bit. Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control!
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it wasn't that hasu's control was amazing (not saying it was bad) it was that sheths was pretty bad... engaging without his infesters killed him that last fight...
really sad to see sheth throw that game away
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And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4!
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On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4!
Take the balance crap elsewhere, he had like no infestors until it was too late anyway, lost a million broods because no infestors.
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On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4!
hahah what ? It was just horrible game by Sheth, should have been easy walkover after denying hasu's expo so many times.
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On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4! This is what happens once you fly your blords around alone with no army underneath them. Dont blame the patch, that was a terrible game by sheth. He might have been up 2 bases, but keept donating his army to hasu. If you wanna balance whine, at least watch the game
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On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4! Because it wasn't that he used pure muta/ling until he had hive tech and repeatedly donated his army and several full energy infestors, right?
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Hasu wins? Uh-oh. Will be tight now for Liquid o_o
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Yeah, pretty hard if you can't build any, owait, he just didn't build them. After the BL army was dead it was pretty much over. Hasu just playing ultra defensive.
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On September 25 2011 02:36 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4! This is what happens once you fly your blords around alone with no army underneath them. Dont blame the patch, that was a terrible game by sheth. He might have been up 2 bases, but keept donating his army to hasu Well he had about two dozen lings with them, but that obviously isn't going to cut it against blink stalker/archon/colossus.
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Sheth y u no make fungal?!
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Every time I see a progame where the Z goes mass brood lord without supporting units, the Z loses. Why is that strategy still used? :/
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On September 25 2011 02:37 sAw wrote:Sheth y u no make fungal?! He probably could've won with those 18 brood lords if he hadn't left them practically unattended.
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well after hasu won against stephano 3-1 and thorzain 2-1 hes able to win against almost everybody good job mouz fighting!
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I'm saying that the reason that he didn't have infestors is because their NP is utterly useless now. That's why he had such awkward unit compositions all game long. I'm not saying he lost because his infestors did poorly, I'm saying he lost because he didn't even get infestors because he knew that they would do poorly.
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Really impressive play out of Hasu, he and Mana have been playing incredibly well the last couple months. They often look as strong (or stronger) than Korean protoss in their play which always surprises me.
Good expansion denial by Sheth, but he completely failed his end game composition. Needed something to defend the Brood Lords (in my opinion, he should have gone with baneling bombs, supply efficient, ignore the colossi, prevent blink unders completely).
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On September 25 2011 02:38 ClysmiC wrote: I'm saying that the reason that he didn't have infestors is because their NP is utterly useless now. That's why he had such awkward unit compositions all game long. I'm not saying he lost because his infestors did poorly, I'm saying he lost because he didn't even get infestors because he knew that they would do poorly. Because people went mass infestor because of neural, right?
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On September 25 2011 02:37 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:36 ragnorr wrote:On September 25 2011 02:34 ClysmiC wrote: And that's what happens when Zerg loses the ability to use infestors. Thanks patch 1.4! This is what happens once you fly your blords around alone with no army underneath them. Dont blame the patch, that was a terrible game by sheth. He might have been up 2 bases, but keept donating his army to hasu Well he had about two dozen lings with them, but that obviously isn't going to cut it against blink stalker/archon/colossus. Lings alone dies so fast, if he had a bunch of infestors below that army with lings etc. Hasu would not be able to touch him
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On September 25 2011 02:38 ClysmiC wrote: I'm saying that the reason that he didn't have infestors is because their NP is utterly useless now. That's why he had such awkward unit compositions all game long. I'm not saying he lost because his infestors did poorly, I'm saying he lost because he didn't even get infestors because he knew that they would do poorly.
They still have FG...which still prevents stalkers from blinking under the brood lords and shredding them. The nerf doesn't change that.
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Its going to be hard for liquid now, Sheth was one of the predicted wins for TL in my book he usually smashes Ps.
Lets see HerO surprising everyone and winning against TZ
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I seen Sheth do this a few times.. just stream in his units separated. ><"
The game he lost to San in Code A was the same thing lol.
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On September 25 2011 02:39 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:38 ClysmiC wrote: I'm saying that the reason that he didn't have infestors is because their NP is utterly useless now. That's why he had such awkward unit compositions all game long. I'm not saying he lost because his infestors did poorly, I'm saying he lost because he didn't even get infestors because he knew that they would do poorly. Because people went mass infestor because of neural, right? Infestor-ling... yeah.
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Oh come on HerO Every time he tries one of these one base builds, it backfires. Every time he opens and plays standard he demolishes Terrans.
Here's hoping.
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On September 25 2011 02:42 Talin wrote:Oh come on HerO Every time he tries one of these one base builds, it backfires. Every time he opens and plays standard he demolishes Terrans. Here's hoping.
Shit map so can't blame him.
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This should have way more viewers, Hero- Thorazain is pretty crazy.
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On September 25 2011 02:33 Herrk wrote: Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control!
Yeah, his teammate HasuObs said it on the German equivalent of State of the Game, he's going to Korea for WCG and he'll stay there for at least a month (I don't remember if it was before or after WCG).
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Its uphill for Liquid from here. I was expecting 2-2 with the ace match anyones game, depending on whether Mana, Thorzain, Sheth, Ret or HerO gets used, but that relied on Sheth winning, HerO can beat Thorzain and get my prediction back on track though.
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The second rax was so well placed. He held that off so easily.
On September 25 2011 02:44 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:33 Herrk wrote: Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control! Yeah, his teammate HasuObs said it on the German equivalent of State of the Game, he's going to Korea for WCG and he'll stay there for at least a month (I don't remember if it was before or after WCG). what is the german state of the game?
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Hero is looking pretty dead
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On September 25 2011 02:46 Ludwigvan wrote:The second rax was so well placed. He held that off so easily. Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:44 StarVe wrote:On September 25 2011 02:33 Herrk wrote: Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control! Yeah, his teammate HasuObs said it on the German equivalent of State of the Game, he's going to Korea for WCG and he'll stay there for at least a month (I don't remember if it was before or after WCG). what is the german state of the game?
i think he means the podcast with darkforce, socke, hasuobs, rine, etc.
http://www.sc2pro.de/
*edit oh wow the new one is a VOD
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So heartbreaking.
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Thorzain's too good in TvP
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HayprO never wins so Mouz is going 3-0
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Mouz ownage! As expected.
And we haven't even seen the beastly Mana yet!!!
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That was honestly hero's game to loose i feel. Thorzain's initial contain was SO weak from the back. He had 2 tanks and a bunker that would've gotten picked off without loosing almost anything with 3 forcefields.
So sad that last all in dint work too
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Liquid disadvantage first 2 maps. Liquid advantage next two. Hope they pull through with this.
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Haypro will win this.
...please?
Bleh, so unlucky tonight.
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What a bizarre game. I really don't see Haypro winning the next one, hope he surprises me. T_T
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Hero could have destroyed that contain so easily, don't understand why he held on for that long.
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Prediction Liquid 3-1 Mouz
Is that the official prediction? Sounds really odd considering Mouz is the best foreign team, winning EG masters cup without even losing once. Especially impressive as they have not imported any Korean players.
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Yeah, I felt Hero had some chances to win there. 1(2)/1/1 doesn't seem quite as crushing anymore. Losing that first immortal for just 1 tank really hurt though and caused Hero to hold off his break out for too long.
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Manas PvZ is so strong after training with Stephano alot
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Man that proxy gate defense from Thorzain was SOOO sexy.
Game then ended as expected after that I think, I wish it would've been some other map, as that would've lent to a much more exiting game (you can't really 1rax expand on xel'naga, aswell as the 2 chokes infront of the natural being really good for siege tanks, that kind of forces the 1-1-1).
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On September 25 2011 02:59 Paladia wrote: Prediction Liquid 3-1 Mouz
Is that the official prediction? Sounds really odd considering Mouz is the best foreign team, winning EG masters cup without even losing once. Especially impressive as they have not imported any Korean players.
It's gotta be personal prediction. Everyone knows mouz is the best non-Korean team. They have the results to back that up.
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haybro you sexy sexy troll!!!
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On September 25 2011 02:59 Paladia wrote: Prediction Liquid 3-1 Mouz
Is that the official prediction? Sounds really odd considering Mouz is the best foreign team, winning EG masters cup without even losing once. Especially impressive as they have not imported any Korean players. Didn't you hear? Thorzain is now a korean.
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ThorZaIN's second army moved out at just the right time, it really looked like HerO was going to crush ThorZaIN's army until then. This looks like a 3-0 for Mouz, MaNa is so strong right now. I think the matchups worked out pretty bad for Liquid, they really wanted Ret or Sheth to play ThorZaIN and Ret, Sheth or HerO to play MaNa.
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*sigh* haypro. Not like I'm surprised
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Im speechless, what the hell is haypro doing
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On September 24 2011 18:32 Geo.Rion wrote: uhh, that looks like a 3-0 to Mouz. Ret would take g4 i imagine, but it looks 3-0 well, i guess i'm not the only one who was right with his prediction my bad, Haypro is still in the game, i shouldnt call the game
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wtf did haypro just did? :O
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On September 25 2011 02:44 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:33 Herrk wrote: Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control! Yeah, his teammate HasuObs said it on the German equivalent of State of the Game, he's going to Korea for WCG and he'll stay there for at least a month (I don't remember if it was before or after WCG).
That is cool to hear, go Morrow, but I agree with the first post on the subject. I would love to see Morrow go back to just playing Zerg... I think it will make him better in every way. Again though, good to hear he is off to Korea for a while, hopefully he stays.
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:| Come on haypro.
I want to believe but you're making it difficult.
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Haypro... you'r better than this t.t
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Duel Sight is great for Zergs. Why the fuck is he pulling this stupid shit?
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That would have been a cool move if Haypro would have just macroed regularly behind that first hatch that made MaNa panic.
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... I turned on the stream and see the strangest worker rush.
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I wish i could post the "why" picture from 4chan. That decision from Haypro...
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sAw
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What is up with Liquid today!? Sheth throwing away his game, Hero doing silly stuff, Haypro = WTF.
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On September 25 2011 02:46 Ludwigvan wrote:The second rax was so well placed. He held that off so easily. Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:44 StarVe wrote:On September 25 2011 02:33 Herrk wrote: Morrow going to Korea?
I must say i'm a little disappoint with Sheths play here, but Hasu having some fine control! Yeah, his teammate HasuObs said it on the German equivalent of State of the Game, he's going to Korea for WCG and he'll stay there for at least a month (I don't remember if it was before or after WCG). what is the german state of the game?
http://www.sc2pro.de/
Szenecast. Last one is the top news, you can find the rest here.
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I was brb for a few minutes and seemingly missed the entire Haypro game, what did he do? O.o (I came back when he had like 15 drones in Mana's base).
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Mana's self-manner Gateway probably doing more damage than the rush itself did, lol
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Good thing Haypro isn't getting the credit you hope he deserves.
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I wonder if that was a personal decision to do that, or something recommended from the team. That was utterly terrible.
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Unbelievable this Liquid team... Sheth had that game and just lost 3 armies without killing one from hasu. HerO tried to cheese and got countered hard, and i dont even know what haypro was doing.
So sad to see my favourite team like this.
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On September 25 2011 03:05 Theovide wrote: I was brb for a few minutes and seemingly missed the entire Haypro game, what did he do? O.o (I came back when he had like 15 drones in Mana's base). For some reason he decided to make a bunch of zerglings and put a hatch at manas choke. Then pulled alot of workers.
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Pretty even supply now o.o
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Haypro was probably just taking advantage of the Drone fix.
I hope.
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On September 25 2011 03:03 Herrk wrote: Haypro... you'r better than this t.t
em..no?:/
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On September 25 2011 03:07 teko wrote: Pretty even supply now o.o well even is bad when you go roach based army in ZvP
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Yea, Haypro's still behind
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mouz will demolish; mouz is insanely strong at the moment.
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On September 24 2011 17:59 VillacherBier wrote: Easy win 4 mouz!
Hasu > Sheth Thor > Hero Mana >> Haypro Morrow (T) < Ret
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Lol who made the predictions?
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Why is Haypro not even trying?? :S
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wthell haypro
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Can't say I'm suprised by the result. Mouz is the best foreigner team by quite a margin.
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GCPL always awful with predictions : >
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Never predict against Mouz in a team league.
Never.
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That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that.
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On September 25 2011 03:27 skrotcyk wrote: GCPL always awful with predictions : > They should put a poll, i don't see the point of a prediction from one person
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On September 25 2011 03:29 Resilient wrote:That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that.
They wanted to win, but there was no pressure. *shrug* Does making a proxy hatch to block a P wall followed by a worker rush seem like a strategy you use when the match depends on you?
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On September 25 2011 03:33 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:29 Resilient wrote:That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that. They wanted to win, but there was no pressure. *shrug* Does making a proxy hatch to block a P wall followed by a worker rush seem like a strategy you use when the match depends on you?
I don't want to disrespect a player, but I think he had more chance with block/rush, than beating Mana straight up. Mana just doesn't lose to anybody recently.
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On September 25 2011 03:33 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:29 Resilient wrote:That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that. They wanted to win, but there was no pressure. *shrug* Does making a proxy hatch to block a P wall followed by a worker rush seem like a strategy you use when the match depends on you?
Aren't these games played beforehand and the casting is off of replays? Looked like that to me. In that case, haypro might have been the first to play his game and didn't know everything depended on him winning.
In any case, that was a cute idea. After it fails everyone can hop into this thread and say how bad it was, but if it worked, you'd all be calling him a genius. I like unorthodox play and I applaud haypro for trying that even though it didn't work out.
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On September 25 2011 03:39 Resilient wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:33 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 25 2011 03:29 Resilient wrote:That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that. They wanted to win, but there was no pressure. *shrug* Does making a proxy hatch to block a P wall followed by a worker rush seem like a strategy you use when the match depends on you? I don't want to disrespect a player, but I think he had more chance with block/rush, than beating Mana straight up. Mana just doesn't lose to anybody recently.
Mana went nexus first against pool first, which is a ballsy move and a normal rush with, say, roaches would have done way more damage than attacking with drones.
On September 25 2011 03:43 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:33 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 25 2011 03:29 Resilient wrote:That's disrespectful to both mouz and Liquid. Liquid wanted to win this as can be shown by their lineup. They were not screwing around or anything like that. They wanted to win, but there was no pressure. *shrug* Does making a proxy hatch to block a P wall followed by a worker rush seem like a strategy you use when the match depends on you? Aren't these games played beforehand and the casting is off of replays? Looked like that to me. In that case, haypro might have been the first to play his game and didn't know everything depended on him winning. In any case, that was a cute idea. After it fails everyone can hop into this thread and say how bad it was, but if it worked, you'd all be calling him a genius. I like unorthodox play and I applaud haypro for trying that even though it didn't work out.
So all 5 games are played but only the relevant ones are shown? Could be, I don't know.
I don't see how that could have worked out. Mana had 2 nexi to reinforce probes, had cannons to fall back to...I just don't see it, sorry.
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I don't know if all the games were played out, I doubt it actually. I guess they just played out 3 and had the 4th and possible 5h match scheduled to be later. Those could've been cancelled. But I don't know - this is pure speculation, the casters however did that 3-2-1 countdown before the game started and that's what you usually do to have that replay in sync for both casters.
The strategy could have worked. Haypro only needed to get his lings into Mana's base. That didn't happen, obviously, since mana blocked them with probes. But the element of surprise could have certainly made that possible.
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I wanted to see morrow vs ret :/
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Hmm. wanted to see all the games played out but it sems like Mouz really overwhelmed Liquid.
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