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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here.

Pretty please, with minerals on top.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16057 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1761
On September 19 2011 15:12 tuho12345 wrote:
Nice to see the map benefit Protoss a lil bit.


The changes to the map all seem to be tailored to benefit Protoss in ZvP.

Not that I think they arent warranted but it's obvious what they were for.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1762
Sorry, it's not a change in style. It's a reversion to turtle into mass protoss ball without harassing or taking risks.

It'll let Protoss win a few, buuuuuut it's boring. Sorry, it just is =/
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jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1763
On September 19 2011 15:04 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:02 cskalias.pbe wrote:
As a terran I wasn't particularly impressed with the drop play. Drop harass around that time is incredibly standard... the question is WHY did it work so well?

I'm not positive, but Alicia was incredibly stalker light, which seemed like a mistake considering the mobility of dropships on a map like that (can easily threaten all 3 bases of Alicia). If he had charge on zealots, he should have been able to have blink on stalkers to try and shut down the harass.

But that still seems to leave the problem of going facing mmmg when you've already invested so much in stalkers (ie stalkers suck when stim and medivacs are around).

One thing we didn't see much of is warp prism play loading HT. I'm not sure if that would have made a difference though because the WP is mostly for preventing EMP of energy. I can't imagine it having that much of an effect on snipe.

I agree with other posters that its not obvious to me that phoenix is the answer, but Im not sure it isn't the answer either. Seems like it would get crushed by common 2 base ghost timing pushes (which are super hard to stop with obs/twilight tech anyway).




warp prism for the HT would of been horrible because of how select delt with HT in those games.

He did not use emp, he used snipe. If select sees 4 ht in a warp prism he can snipe it down for less energy then it would to take out all 4 HT on their own



Fail!. you cannot snipe WP
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Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1764
On September 19 2011 15:04 Atreides wrote:
Not sure why people complain about balance for those games he didn't 1-1-1 or anything. The second game select does super risky mass drop early that works only because Alicia 1) has no antiair 2) uses ff to negate his entire army of zealots. (surprised I didn't see more on that as it was like WTF ARE YOU DOING dumb) Rest of the game is just him getting out macroed cus he was wayyyy behind. (And he macroed terrible anyways.) So yeah.

Great games by Select. And yes he counts as a foreigner in my heart


Not much complaining as much as people discussing what Alicia could of done.
1) He can't have antiair as stalkers are terrible against Bio; had he had more stalkers and less zealot, I think Select could of just walked right in and killed him straight up a few times.
2) Alicia didn't really get outmacro'd in a mechanic sense, it only seemed like it because Select was able to take more bases (including gold) both games.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1765
Neural is actually quite bad if you don't neural all of the colossus
High Risk Low Reward
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1766
If MC wins will we see MC vs Select? I don't remember the brackets. Anyone?
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1767
On September 19 2011 15:12 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:11 mango_destroyer wrote:
neural is a joke especially after the patch


looked like a joke in this game, before patch.

Yea right, cuz this guy a-move his entire army in and NP after he lost all of his lings?? Oh wait did I miss anything else? May be he did a terrible fail attack in early game too?
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1768
On September 19 2011 15:12 Sc2Null wrote:
Mc playing cruncher style...can't give him props for that


Um, what is he supposed to do lmao? An all-in gateway timing push that all zergs can hold off nowadays so that people could complain about how he only all-ins instead of playing macro games, exactly like people always used to?
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Roffu
Profile Joined April 2011
United States143 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1769
Yess neural so effective, I think it needs more nerf. -4 range
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1770
o monster...He has good ideas but bad execution.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
arsenic
Profile Joined January 2009
United States163 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1771
On September 19 2011 15:12 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:11 mango_destroyer wrote:
neural is a joke especially after the patch


looked like a joke in this game, before patch.

When Protoss has like 5-6 Colossus, Neural is pretty much worthless if Protoss actually micros his army and targets the Infestors. By then, you have to hope you have Broodlords or you pretty much lose automatically.

However, Monster went Muta instead of BL and did no damage at all. =/
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
September 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#1772
Terrible decisions by Monster. Most likely nerves I guess.

As for MC, I see him going back to his mass stalker play, with a bit more flair. Then again this is PvZ.
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laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1773
On September 19 2011 15:14 bittman wrote:
Sorry, it's not a change in style. It's a reversion to turtle into mass protoss ball without harassing or taking risks.

It'll let Protoss win a few, buuuuuut it's boring. Sorry, it just is =/


thats how protoss has to play to win lately
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1774
didn't like this zerg play at all. Delaying his 3rd to do that infestor push which ended up brutally raped sums up the game pretty much. As a result toss had his third faster than zerg did.
SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1775
Lol Protoss so starved for a win. Its nice to see MC matched up verse a low level zerg
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1776
On September 19 2011 15:14 Yang Wenli wrote:
Monster didn't even scout well. If he found the greedy second expo, then Monster would have done massive damage if he went for roach bust. MC barely had any army units.


Funny thing is, although I can't tell if he saw the actual nexus, he clearly saw MC taking down the rocks with an overlord.
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izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1777
On September 19 2011 15:13 Sabu113 wrote:
Lol this is so ridiculous. All the Toss' are frightened MC will lose to a zerg of monster's caliber.


Hey look the best protoss in the world won against a zerg who mass spine pushed with no creep tumors!
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1778
On September 19 2011 15:14 arsenic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:12 Oboeman wrote:
On September 19 2011 15:11 mango_destroyer wrote:
neural is a joke especially after the patch


looked like a joke in this game, before patch.

When Protoss has like 5-6 Colossus, Neural is pretty much worthless if Protoss actually micros his army and targets the Infestors. By then, you have to hope you have Broodlords or you pretty much lose automatically.

However, Monster went Muta instead of BL and did no damage at all. =/

You make it sounds like it's easy to secure 5-6 Colossus against Zerg T_T
markz4
Profile Joined March 2011
180 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1779
just give us dark swarm instead of NP
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#1780
On September 19 2011 15:13 Probe1 wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 1 ?

No (37)
 
71%

Yes (9)
 
17%

If you have time (6)
 
12%

52 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 1 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Who voted yes -___-

Even taking into account being happy for MC and protoss winning, that game was pretty terrible.
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