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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here.

Pretty please, with minerals on top.
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
September 19 2011 05:05 GMT
#561
good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it?
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:05:51
September 19 2011 05:05 GMT
#562
Entertaining match, and I think SC is the better player anyway. With that being said I understand frustration at his advancement, given like....terran terran everywhere and not a toss [or zerg] in sight. :\
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
September 19 2011 05:05 GMT
#563
On September 19 2011 14:03 Samiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 14:01 Oboeman wrote:
On September 19 2011 14:00 Daralii wrote:
Question: Why are people complaining about sC doing this, when they didn't say anything about Revival's 10-pool into baneling bust?


did revival pull his drones with his 10pool?

and then pull his drones again for his baneling bust? while expanding behind it?



Regardless, 10-pool into baneling bust is gimmicky play. If the Terran doesn't pull his SCVs then that build is just standard TvZ. They both caught each other off guard. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Revival started the gimmicky play and I don't see anything wrong with what sC did in response


The problem with that statement was that sC did a CC first the 2nd set and it was sC's fault for being greedy that he lost more than Revival's gimmicky play, now this time, Revival played pretty standard but still lost.
Gameplay > Personality
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
September 19 2011 05:05 GMT
#564
On September 19 2011 14:00 Daralii wrote:
Question: Why are people complaining about sC doing this, when they didn't say anything about Revival's 10-pool into baneling bust?


Because it's a gamble when zerg does it and chances are he won't be ahead after it.
Not the same can be said about terran.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
September 19 2011 05:05 GMT
#565
On September 19 2011 14:05 hai2u wrote:
good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it?

Not everyone is... Vocal minority as usual
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#566
On September 19 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 14:00 blooblooblahblah wrote:
OMG sC tried to win, i'm an anti-fan now


Lol everyone tries to win. In fact, if someone didn't and just destroyed their hatchery at the start of the game I would be a fan of them.

It's how they do it. And I respect macro more than 11-11 allin into allin.


so ur a Revival anti-fan as well?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#567
On September 19 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 14:00 blooblooblahblah wrote:
OMG sC tried to win, i'm an anti-fan now


Lol everyone tries to win. In fact, if someone didn't and just destroyed their hatchery at the start of the game I would be a fan of them.

It's how they do it. And I respect macro more than 11-11 allin into allin.


The fact is, the Terran players in GSL doing builds like this are hurting themselves in the end. I'm not watching a single GSL game that is Terran mirror. And I'm sure a lot of people are doing the same at this point. By Terrans continuing to do these all ins and various other things that have lead to the vastly unequal race distribution, they are hurting viewership and thus hurting the Korean scene. I know that GOM won't release numbers, but there's no way their viewer #s hasn't decreased as a result of the Terran dominance.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:07:23
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#568
On September 19 2011 14:03 mango_destroyer wrote:
Is there some rule where Terrans aren`t allowed to pull SCVs? Stop hating if its effective why not do it? Blame the game design if you hate it so much.

In BW the LR threads would usually go nuts in a happy/excited way whenever we saw workers pulled aggressively. I guess that was after things had stabilized enough that bunker bunker bunker wasn't viable, but the rush itself is something people beat. Revival just made a big mistake. Any time you see this effective technique used it's bit by bit bullshit, i'm an ant-fan now, i hope he loses.

EDIT: @ Above: TvT is my favorite matchup. I doubt you're going to find boycott support in a live report thread...
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#569
I think RevivaL will be back. Set 1 was very close and he was ahead for most of it and probably would have won if he got infestor tech.

In Set 3 he beautifully defended the 11/11 bunker rush and probably would have won if he made a spinecrawler next to his hatcheries.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
halcyOn 2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States69 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#570
I'm not sure why there is so much hate. Revival went hatch first and still held off the initial 11/11 attack with pulled SCVs. If he hadn't gone up the ramp he could have been in a much better position.
forza milan
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#571
Its all revivals fault anyways after he held the 11/11 he should of just droned...
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:07:17
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#572
Can someone rationalise why Revival didn't just drop a spinecrawler at any point when he knew marine/scv aggression was coming btw? They're pretty good ><
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#573
OKAY SELECT LETS DO THIS

JUST DON'T 1-1-1
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
September 19 2011 05:06 GMT
#574
On September 19 2011 14:02 lariat wrote:
Everyone seems to hate sC for all-inning twice, but it was actually an incredibly smart move. Revival went full retard and lost 12 lings for 1 scv, which is just asking for a counterattack to happen.


Yeah that was Revival's one big mistake

I think people are just pissed at how much power the "second all in" had after sC lost ALL but one of his marines to letting himself getting surrounded by lings when he had a bunker up that he should have been closer to. Not to mention that he brought every scv he had (save one) for all in round two, and still rebuilt up to like 12 or so along with double mule-ing.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
jhlee820
Profile Joined June 2011
149 Posts
September 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#575
I normally would dislike SC for using marine scv, but after seeing all the sick games he's played, I kinda want him back in code S, even if it is currently a Terran-fest.
siewkeat
Profile Joined October 2010
282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:07:26
September 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#576
On September 19 2011 14:00 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 14:00 Daralii wrote:
Question: Why are people complaining about sC doing this, when they didn't say anything about Revival's 10-pool into baneling bust?


Because sC went cc first, and terran tend to do that a lot in TvZ after going up in sets, despite it being a gamble.

Basically Terran hate.


this. its ok for zerg/protoss to do anything right now and get away with it as there are so few of them left in the tournament. it doesn't even matter whether those Zs or Ps are anything good themsleves compared to the mass Ts in GSL.

Either the game is broken or there is just way more people playing Terran in Korea, not surprising though with people growing up watching boxer,nada,oov, flash plays. A larger pool of player playing Terran will always in general resulted in a larger pool of better Terran.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
September 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#577
On September 19 2011 14:05 hai2u wrote:
good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it?


Cheesing someone who goes CC first and plays extremely greedy and wins is understandable. Cheesing someone who plays standard and should theoretically be safe isn't because then it says something about the game.
Gameplay > Personality
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
September 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#578
On September 19 2011 14:05 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 14:05 hai2u wrote:
good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it?

Not everyone is... Vocal minority as usual



You're kidding yourself if you really think its a minority at this point. Terran dominance in GSL is a problem at this point. 20 Terrans in a 32 man tournament is a big deal. It makes their tournament a lot less interesting and is going to hurt their numbers really bad in code S this season. And when we see Terrans getting to that point as a result of these kinds of builds, it is pretty disappointing.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
September 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#579
On September 19 2011 14:00 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 13:56 Oboeman wrote:
guys its not all-in, he is expanding behind it hahah!


The strength of the scv rine push without being all in just shows how dumb rush distances on blizzard maps are...lol

And yet Blizzard removed the map from the pool in part because Zerg was consistently getting the better of T and P on it on ladder, even with close ground positions which have an even shorter rush distance.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
September 19 2011 05:08 GMT
#580
Ok, let's go SeleCT! Show them who's their daddy. Fight!
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