EPT[GSL] Code A RO32 Day 1 - Page 29
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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here. Pretty please, with minerals on top. | ||
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hai2u
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:03 Samiz wrote: Regardless, 10-pool into baneling bust is gimmicky play. If the Terran doesn't pull his SCVs then that build is just standard TvZ. They both caught each other off guard. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Revival started the gimmicky play and I don't see anything wrong with what sC did in response The problem with that statement was that sC did a CC first the 2nd set and it was sC's fault for being greedy that he lost more than Revival's gimmicky play, now this time, Revival played pretty standard but still lost. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:00 Daralii wrote: Question: Why are people complaining about sC doing this, when they didn't say anything about Revival's 10-pool into baneling bust? Because it's a gamble when zerg does it and chances are he won't be ahead after it. Not the same can be said about terran. | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:05 hai2u wrote: good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it? Not everyone is... Vocal minority as usual  | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote: Lol everyone tries to win. In fact, if someone didn't and just destroyed their hatchery at the start of the game I would be a fan of them. It's how they do it. And I respect macro more than 11-11 allin into allin. so ur a Revival anti-fan as well? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote: Lol everyone tries to win. In fact, if someone didn't and just destroyed their hatchery at the start of the game I would be a fan of them. It's how they do it. And I respect macro more than 11-11 allin into allin. The fact is, the Terran players in GSL doing builds like this are hurting themselves in the end. I'm not watching a single GSL game that is Terran mirror. And I'm sure a lot of people are doing the same at this point. By Terrans continuing to do these all ins and various other things that have lead to the vastly unequal race distribution, they are hurting viewership and thus hurting the Korean scene. I know that GOM won't release numbers, but there's no way their viewer #s hasn't decreased as a result of the Terran dominance. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:03 mango_destroyer wrote: Is there some rule where Terrans aren`t allowed to pull SCVs? Stop hating if its effective why not do it? Blame the game design if you hate it so much. In BW the LR threads would usually go nuts in a happy/excited way whenever we saw workers pulled aggressively. I guess that was after things had stabilized enough that bunker bunker bunker wasn't viable, but the rush itself is something people beat. Revival just made a big mistake. Any time you see this effective technique used it's bit by bit bullshit, i'm an ant-fan now, i hope he loses. EDIT: @ Above: TvT is my favorite matchup. I doubt you're going to find boycott support in a live report thread... | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
In Set 3 he beautifully defended the 11/11 bunker rush and probably would have won if he made a spinecrawler next to his hatcheries. | ||
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halcyOn 2
United States69 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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xAPOCALYPSEx
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JUST DON'T 1-1-1 | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:02 lariat wrote: Everyone seems to hate sC for all-inning twice, but it was actually an incredibly smart move. Revival went full retard and lost 12 lings for 1 scv, which is just asking for a counterattack to happen. Yeah that was Revival's one big mistake I think people are just pissed at how much power the "second all in" had after sC lost ALL but one of his marines to letting himself getting surrounded by lings when he had a bunker up that he should have been closer to. Not to mention that he brought every scv he had (save one) for all in round two, and still rebuilt up to like 12 or so along with double mule-ing. | ||
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jhlee820
149 Posts
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siewkeat
282 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:00 EtherealDeath wrote: Because sC went cc first, and terran tend to do that a lot in TvZ after going up in sets, despite it being a gamble. Basically Terran hate. this. its ok for zerg/protoss to do anything right now and get away with it as there are so few of them left in the tournament. it doesn't even matter whether those Zs or Ps are anything good themsleves compared to the mass Ts in GSL. Either the game is broken or there is just way more people playing Terran in Korea, not surprising though with people growing up watching boxer,nada,oov, flash plays. A larger pool of player playing Terran will always in general resulted in a larger pool of better Terran. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:05 hai2u wrote: good job sC, do what u gota do to win, cheese the cheeser back, why is everyone crying about it? Cheesing someone who goes CC first and plays extremely greedy and wins is understandable. Cheesing someone who plays standard and should theoretically be safe isn't because then it says something about the game. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:05 ellirc wrote: Not everyone is... Vocal minority as usual You're kidding yourself if you really think its a minority at this point. Terran dominance in GSL is a problem at this point. 20 Terrans in a 32 man tournament is a big deal. It makes their tournament a lot less interesting and is going to hurt their numbers really bad in code S this season. And when we see Terrans getting to that point as a result of these kinds of builds, it is pretty disappointing. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On September 19 2011 14:00 babysimba wrote: The strength of the scv rine push without being all in just shows how dumb rush distances on blizzard maps are...lol And yet Blizzard removed the map from the pool in part because Zerg was consistently getting the better of T and P on it on ladder, even with close ground positions which have an even shorter rush distance. | ||
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
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