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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
dcp
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom45 Posts
September 18 2011 12:15 GMT
#10141
grats to drg, thorzain and hero were great to watch tho, amazing tourny with some amazing games.

"Me fail English? That’s unpossible!"
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
September 18 2011 12:20 GMT
#10142
Thorzain Hwaiting!!

Amazing games throughout the ENTIRE tournament.

I seriously thought Thorzain was going to take it. DRG's relieved look on his face at the end tells it all - Korean pride was on the line and the entire Kr netizen community was about to slam him if he lost that series. Well done to all the players, I hope Hero keeps on improving. He is showing everyone that the skill-ceiling for Protoss is No-way-near-reached.
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
September 18 2011 13:09 GMT
#10143
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context
WhiteraCares
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 13:12:59
September 18 2011 13:11 GMT
#10144
I heard someone say that TLO made an appearance live from a barcraft somewhere in Sweden. Must have missed it - does anyone know when it was, like in between which games?
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
September 18 2011 13:19 GMT
#10145
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because major is really fucking good?^^
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
September 18 2011 13:19 GMT
#10146
True, he showed up in a bar called The Crib i think. Pictures here by Rakaka
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
Baozer
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 13:26:24
September 18 2011 13:24 GMT
#10147
Im a fan of ThorZain but I must say that DRG lost his games on lack of expands and upgrades ( the latter atleast in the first game). Compare the series and DRG was much less 'expand aggressive'. Which resulted in his lack of tech switch able.

EDIT: BarCraft RETRO Stockholm was awesome! Looking forward to future BarCrafts. ! ;D
WhiteraCares
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden339 Posts
September 18 2011 13:34 GMT
#10148
On September 18 2011 22:19 Roberi wrote:
True, he showed up in a bar called The Crib i think. Pictures here by Rakaka

Thanks, but i meant live on the stream
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
September 18 2011 13:46 GMT
#10149
On September 18 2011 22:19 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because major is really fucking good?^^


I guess ThorZaIN should start taking lessons from him then...
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
September 18 2011 13:53 GMT
#10150
Does Dreamhack post replay packs?
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#10151
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because he really does.. just watch his stream and be surprised..
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 13:57:45
September 18 2011 13:56 GMT
#10152
Mentioning Select/Major as if they are near the same league is, imo, redic. Looking past fanboyism results alone should make it clear Thorzain is way above :x

Also "On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD" imo
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
September 18 2011 14:29 GMT
#10153
Sickest tourney to date ! I saw quite a few people that unfortunately seemed to miss out on the action @ BarCrafts, I've created a thread with the purpose of posting ALL the upcoming barcrafts event from a global perspective, so everyone can enjoy the SC2+beer+friends combo!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266536
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
September 18 2011 14:30 GMT
#10154
So I missed everything, which series should I check first ^^?
We know nothing.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 18 2011 14:41 GMT
#10155
On September 18 2011 22:54 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because he really does.. just watch his stream and be surprised..

When Major wins something like TSL3 or gets second in an invitational like this one we can start comparing.
telsek
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 14:48:52
September 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#10156
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
September 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#10157
On September 18 2011 23:41 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 22:54 s4life wrote:
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because he really does.. just watch his stream and be surprised..

When Major wins something like TSL3 or gets second in an invitational like this one we can start comparing.

So you can only judge if a player is good or not by his tournament winnings?
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
September 18 2011 15:02 GMT
#10158
Well that's better than judging it on someone playing ladder games on a stream
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 15:16:08
September 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#10159
On September 18 2011 23:47 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 23:41 Valikyr wrote:
On September 18 2011 22:54 s4life wrote:
On September 18 2011 22:09 eot wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:51 Hider wrote:
On September 18 2011 09:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:50 arterian wrote:
On September 18 2011 08:20 Slunk wrote:
Just watched the VODs and hooooly shit. I am so happy for DongRaeGu and also I am sooo impressed by Thorzain. He is the best foreigner by far and propably the only one in the top 50 players overall. So awesome, too bad he does not like Korea.


Best TvP by far maybe



I'd put SeleCT's TvP over Thorzain, but Thorzain has the best overall mechanics with Terran that I've seen from a foreigner.


Your joking right? Thorzain does not have good mechanics. His macro is fine, but is marine/tank control is so bad, which is kinda why he slow pushes, because he doesn't have the apm to do a qiucker attack (every game he tried to do a tank marine push he failed cus he made so many wrong things, like not having spotters, and bad marine splitting).

Major has much better mechanics than Thorzain.


Major? lol
Why are you even bringing him up in this context


Because he really does.. just watch his stream and be surprised..

When Major wins something like TSL3 or gets second in an invitational like this one we can start comparing.

So you can only judge if a player is good or not by his tournament winnings?


jesus christ yes.

or to be fair to the man you were quoting, you judge if a player is good or not if he places high in tournaments and/or wins them. which Thorzain does. putting him down there with Princess is eligible for ridicule
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
September 18 2011 15:41 GMT
#10160
On September 18 2011 23:30 Amestir wrote:
So I missed everything, which series should I check first ^^?

if you know the results already, i clearly recommend the final. best series of the tournament
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
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