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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8401
Well Thorzain is putting up a very good fight. Can't complain of anything.

But now kid, go and make it 2-2!!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8402
Really awful tank control by ThorZain. He lost like... 8 tanks for no reason whatsoever to the mutas.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
ex000r
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland74 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8403
On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote:
They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong.



haha, so true :D
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8404
On September 18 2011 05:11 Crowned wrote:
Thorzain not able to capitalize on the early game lead (almost failed to do so in game 2 as well.) If DRG just plays standard this won't even be close.

He had no early game lead, DRG was ahead in supply after the harass.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8405
Which keyboard is DRG using? Looks sexy
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:13:44
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8406
On September 18 2011 05:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?


Blue Flame Hellions 15 minutes earlier.


LOL.

Ghosts' snipe are pretty good, yeah? And marauders?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8407
Why isnt he making ghosts? Feels like every Korean terran mixes ghosts in a lot more now.
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8408
On September 18 2011 05:10 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:10 Zzoram wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?


Tons of stim marauders


or 20 ghosts


but 20 ghosts get owned by lings and blings so its better to just build marawders dood
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8409
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?

M&m&m.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8410
On September 18 2011 05:10 Wunder wrote:
Ridiculous for people criticizing Thorzain for making vikings.


Why? There is no excuse not scanning the zerg base when you know he has hive tech when you have three OCs.
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8411
gogo DRG for champion!!!!!
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8412
I remember in GSTL against a random MVP player in GuineaPig, he too used ultras against Thorzain, and it took Thorzain a long ass time to beat him.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8413
On September 18 2011 05:11 Enceladus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?

Battlecruisers...


Naw, too expensive. Banshees are the best pure counter, what with cloak and everything.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8414
On September 18 2011 05:11 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:10 Wunder wrote:
Ridiculous for people criticizing Thorzain for making vikings.

yeah, I don't play competitively but it's internet warriors who love saying that ultras are useless in the first place


You see ultras work one time against a terran throwing units away all game and they are suddenly good units?

kay.
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8415
Thors and turrets. Thors and turrets. MVP vs July on metalopolis is good game to study to understand how to stifle a aggressive zerg. Turrets to protect siege tanks, turrets to protect thors. Losing a tank is so costly compared to building a turret.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8416
On September 18 2011 05:12 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?

Marines and marauders, mostly marauders if they have all the armor upgrades for the ultras. Ultras are very good in a situation like that were there are a decent amount of tanks/thors but they absolutely melt against a bio ball its silly.

Are you sure? With the recent influx of infestors I think that ultras can melt bioballs pretty easily.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8417
I love DRG, I wish I could play like him so bad D:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
oDDable
Profile Joined April 2011
United States54 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8418
Does anyone else feel like Thorzain has reached the point where he simply needs to get faster? He has such a profound understanding of unit composition and his engagements are solid enough, but it just feels like DRG is outpacing him on everything.
Machine - QXC - MC - HuK
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8419
only reason ultralisks worked so well is because Thorzain was blind-building an army composition that counters broodlords. He had no Marauders, basically no Ghosts. And went for marines, Vikings and Thors.
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#8420
On September 18 2011 05:10 Zorgaz wrote:
Ultras are bad lol!?

I don't think so

Zergs need to stop qq and start using em


How about you stop qq about zergs and realize it was becuase thorzain anticipated broodlords and thus had started viking production which crippled him from the production he needed to stop the ultras. Did you see how long thorzain had where he could have pushed in before the ultras hatched and could have just ended it?
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