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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1461
Tonight I make the journey to the David Kim shrine and I will pray to him and ask for him to save Protoss. ;;;;
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1462
On September 07 2011 20:28 pAzand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:26 ramon wrote:
if jiakji wins 2 games and losira wins his too, it's a 3 way tie for the first 3 places
if jiakji loses this game, losira and check are through
if jiakji wins this game and loses against mc, while losira loses it's a 3 way tie for place 2,3 and 4
if jiakji wins both games, while losira loses his game, jiakji and check are through

i think


If jjaki loses his next 2 matches, Check wins against Losira then it's a 2-2 tie between Losira and MC. So then Losira goes through right? :S

yes, if he loses this game, losira and check go through no matter what
bisu
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
September 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1463
On September 07 2011 20:28 MrCon wrote:
If losira wins he's 3-1 and jjakji can be 3-1 too and he beat Losira, so jjakji will qualify.


No. Check beat jjaki, Losira beat Check and jjaki beat Losira. 3 way tie
If you can chill.. Chill!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1464
MC out of code S. MC to MLG Orlando. Thanks Mr. Chae, don't worry guys
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1465
On September 07 2011 20:27 Drygioni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:24 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:23 Plexa wrote:
Here's a scary thought, if Kyrix wins this - Check can throw his next game and keep MC out of Code S =/

Good format GOM.


1. Kyrix won't win, not with the way he's been playing
2. Check won't throw games.


Well the kyrix winning is a pretty big if, but I think the problem is similar to the one nasl had, where the games don't feel as important because some of them don't matter. Like why would Check be motivated to win if he's in already?

If Check loses vs Losira, it is possible for a triple 3-1 tie to occur, so there is still significant motivation for Check to win his match.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1466
dNaniwa johan lucchesi
R.I.P OGS.MC and the protoss race.
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Lorelei
Profile Joined September 2011
Russian Federation9 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1467
On September 07 2011 20:28 b0ngt0ss wrote:
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On September 07 2011 20:27 Whiteman103 wrote:
"R.I.P OGS.MC and the protoss race." Naniwa on twitter

bahaha

haha
i think only reason mc lose its cuz he should play risky or chance to win is low
Crying
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria778 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1468
I think its finally a time to say,all protosses that watched the Code S will now stop watching GSL anyway,MC out of code s

and finally terrans will be able to win GSL solely on playing TVT> ...
Determination~ Hard Work Surpass NATURAL GENIUS!
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1469
On September 07 2011 20:26 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:25 Carny wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:23 Kreb wrote:
Only chance MC can advance is through a score like this:
4-0
2-2
2-2
2-2
0-4
At which point I assume the three 2-2 play tiebreaks.


So MC needs to hope that

Jjakji >Kyrix
Check> Losira
MC>Jjakji

That's the only way for MC to get a 2-2 tie

If this happened, Losira would advance because Losira beat MC and thus has the tiebreaker.

But JJakji also gets 2-2. He beat Losira,Losira beat MC and Mc would beat JJakji!
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1470
wait no...
jiakji>losira
losira>MC
if MC>jiakji, there should be a tie breaker... small glimmer of hope?
Drygioni
Profile Joined February 2011
Japan379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:33:19
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1471
On September 07 2011 20:30 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:27 Drygioni wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:24 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:23 Plexa wrote:
Here's a scary thought, if Kyrix wins this - Check can throw his next game and keep MC out of Code S =/

Good format GOM.


1. Kyrix won't win, not with the way he's been playing
2. Check won't throw games.


Well the kyrix winning is a pretty big if, but I think the problem is similar to the one nasl had, where the games don't feel as important because some of them don't matter. Like why would Check be motivated to win if he's in already?

If Check loses vs Losira, it is possible for a triple 3-1 tie to occur, so there is still significant motivation for Check to win his match.


Edit: wait, in the event of a triple 3-1 tie, since Check already beat the others except for kyrix wouldn't he already be through?
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1472
MC wouldn't even be in the up and down matches if he didn't pick MVP...
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1473
MC can still advance if:
jiakji>kyrix
check>losira
MC>jiakji
And then MC would have to win tiebreaker matches. This BO1 format is so harsh..
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1474
On September 07 2011 20:26 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:23 kusto wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:
MC to code A might be the wake up call GOM needs to fix their format.


What's the problem with the format?

Firstly, you have two players from Code S being removed every season. The up-down matches are way to harsh on the players, plus the format is open to abuse around game 8 (as i mentioned in my last post). Plus Code A is terrible. Code A needs to be fixed, the up-down matches need to be fixed, and less players in Code S need to be safe (atm we're losing 25% of the Code S players entering up-down, add more players in and that becomes 12.5%).


The only part of the format that I do not like are the Bo1s. Everybody should play at least Bo3s against each other. That goes the same for Code S initial brackets.

✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1475
On September 07 2011 20:28 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:25 RHoudini wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:23 LeopoldStotch wrote:
This is what happens when you pick MVP in the group stages.

This.
Arrogance is great and often entertaining, but MC also needs to deliver.


i doubt the situation was any better with the other 17 terrans in code s who could have just 1/1/1'ed mc out of code s, he's not arrogant; he's smart, he was planning for the grand gsl event at the end of the year.

gogogo mc for mlg and code s


There's a grand GSL event? First I've ever heard.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1476
Why are they showing it again?
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1477
On September 07 2011 20:26 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:23 kusto wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:
MC to code A might be the wake up call GOM needs to fix their format.


What's the problem with the format?

Firstly, you have two players from Code S being removed every season. The up-down matches are way to harsh on the players, plus the format is open to abuse around game 8 (as i mentioned in my last post). Plus Code A is terrible. Code A needs to be fixed, the up-down matches need to be fixed, and less players in Code S need to be safe (atm we're losing 25% of the Code S players entering up-down, add more players in and that becomes 12.5%).

I find the format of Up/Down ok. You just need to win 3 out of 5 to advance. Pretty fair I'd say. If you are MC, you are supposed to go 5-0. Instead he went 0-2, he deserved to be out (and stop being an arrogant smartass by picking players that would destroy you)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1478
Haa, MC didn't scouted the main with his probe, didn't see the lair morphing.
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1479
this music sounds like infected mushroom. can anyone confirm?
nougdp
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany144 Posts
September 07 2011 11:31 GMT
#1480
On September 07 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:
MC to code A might be the wake up call GOM needs to fix their format.


MVP and MKP both dropped to CodeA before. The Format is OK since last Season. #3 in the Groupstages is enough to stay in CodeS.
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