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Balance whine equals ban; good posting equals happy community and moderator
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 07 2011 10:02 GMT
#641
with that economy i would actually like to see losira's old roach/bane style, so fun to watch when his macro goes crazy
bisu
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#642
oh forgot to make a prediction, id say LosirA takes this from jjakji.
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#643
On September 07 2011 19:00 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:59 Ventor wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:58 Jinsho wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:55 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Hope MC falls into code B next season. Then we won't need to read so much MC fanboy's whine anymroe.


that would be boss as hell maybe people wouldn't latch on his faded glory so much then


Open up his liquipedia page and take a look at his accomplishments in sc2. Faded glory my ass. Just because a player doesnt win everything doesnt mean hes not a great player.

Kids these days...


if smugness won sc2 games you'd be grandmaster.


If being dumb won you sc2 games you'd be grandmaster.

User was warned for this post
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 10:04:19
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#644
On September 07 2011 18:58 Nikoleye wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, how do you easily tell which players are in code A and which are code S? (based off of the page 1 info)

or are we assumed to know the entire playerlist of code S/A?

It would greatly enhance watching this if I knew whether the person was competing to upgrade from A into S, or they are risking downgrade from S into A....

I added a link to liquipedia at the top of OP so lazy people are one click away from the info you seek :p
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#645
love that lone spinecrawler lol
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 10:03:51
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#646
On September 07 2011 19:00 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:59 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:58 Probe1 wrote:
(Z) <[tlpd#maps#443#sc2-international#Space Platform]Terminus SE> (T)Jjakji
Losira Starting at 3
jjakji Starting at 6

2:45
jjakji opens command center first to match Losiras hatch first!

4:00
Losira puts down a quick third at 23 supply in response to jjakjis FE

7:25
With lair, a baneling nest, metabolic boost, and a third queen on the way for Losira, he sits at 65 supply.

But jjakji is responding with a marine marauder ball, a third command center on the way, a factory and two engineering bays. All while researching stim and holding a 5 supply lead!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#647
On September 07 2011 18:57 roymarthyup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:53 snafoo wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:51 roymarthyup wrote:
high level players can make mistakes. im just saying MC played badly. dont like the balance whine people say every time a player loses. im toss and ill say i dont think the game showed any imbalances



I don't know if you've seen many ZvP's lately, but you can't just turtle and take your third, zerg's get aggressive... thats exactly what losira was waiting for, also check out Coca's games from MLG, every single game against protosss except G2 against HuK is him killing the protoss when they try take their 3rd.



i guess i shouldnt talk as if i know everything

in my experience if you go straight to collossi and only focus on that, it gives you enough strength to hold your third
HOWEVER, maybe im wrong
in those games you suggest, was the toss going for templars before his third was up? if so. he played it wrong imo
and im only talking about how to take your third off a voidray opening. maybe his opening was different. sometimes you do want to go for templars before the third.


maybe i am completely wrong. maybe the power of collossi isnt enough to hold your third. i havnt experienced it, but i still admit i MAY be wrong. i guess i should shut up and stop talking like i know everything

i will admit, if my collossi idea is wrong, then in that situation MC has no options and was going to lose the game no matter what.

so i guess the imbalance claimers do have sort of a point... maybe....


Well in coca's games vs naniwa, coca took really quick 3rd, droned, went roach hydra corrupter and attacked when naniwa's 3rd was completing. both games naniwa went only gateway/colossus/+atk upgrade, got completely crushed both games.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 07 2011 10:03 GMT
#648
really fucking cool opening by jjakji
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
September 07 2011 10:04 GMT
#649
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote:
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/1356524/taketobreak

Or diamond, but whatever.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 10:04 GMT
#650
On September 07 2011 19:03 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:00 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:59 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:58 Probe1 wrote:
(Z) <[tlpd#maps#443#sc2-international#Space Platform]Terminus SE> (T)Jjakji
Losira Starting at 3
jjakji Starting at 6

2:45
jjakji opens command center first to match Losiras hatch first!

4:00
Losira puts down a quick third at 23 supply in response to jjakjis FE

7:25
With lair, a baneling nest, metabolic boost, and a third queen on the way for Losira, he sits at 65 supply.

But jjakji is responding with a marine marauder ball, a third command center on the way, a factory and two engineering bays. All while researching stim and holding a 5 supply lead!

10:00
Spire and burrow both start for Losira. Still not much happening on the map but jjakji takes his third.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2011 10:04 GMT
#651
On September 07 2011 19:01 Nahsom wrote:
Even if MC falls to code A, its still comfortating that he will just win the next MLG and will be Code S again.

Yeah, this is actually pretty funny. I wonder how this will evolve in the Korean scene.
I had a good night of sleep.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 07 2011 10:05 GMT
#652
On September 07 2011 19:00 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:59 Ventor wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:58 Jinsho wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:55 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Hope MC falls into code B next season. Then we won't need to read so much MC fanboy's whine anymroe.


that would be boss as hell maybe people wouldn't latch on his faded glory so much then


Open up his liquipedia page and take a look at his accomplishments in sc2. Faded glory my ass. Just because a player doesnt win everything doesnt mean hes not a great player.

Kids these days...


if smugness won sc2 games you'd be grandmaster.


apparently no accomplishments inside Korea since march = still blazing glory. Nothing better than r8 since may either lol...

----

Interesting game, I was like wow Losira has 70 drones already, then realised Jjakji is up at about 60 scv's too
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 10:05 GMT
#653
On September 07 2011 19:04 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:03 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:00 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:59 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:58 Probe1 wrote:
(Z) <[tlpd#maps#443#sc2-international#Space Platform]Terminus SE> (T)Jjakji
Losira Starting at 3
jjakji Starting at 6

2:45
jjakji opens command center first to match Losiras hatch first!

4:00
Losira puts down a quick third at 23 supply in response to jjakjis FE

7:25
With lair, a baneling nest, metabolic boost, and a third queen on the way for Losira, he sits at 65 supply.

But jjakji is responding with a marine marauder ball, a third command center on the way, a factory and two engineering bays. All while researching stim and holding a 5 supply lead!

10:00
Spire and burrow both start for Losira. Still not much happening on the map but jjakji takes his third.

11:00
A drop is spotted by Losira but he fails to notice and a spine crawler and 6+ lings are traded to turn the medivacs and their contents around.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 10:06 GMT
#654
Jjakji is playing that perfectly until now. Perfect turret timing, perfect upgrades timings, perfect perfect <3
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 10:06 GMT
#655
urgh, losira no point in going over 100 drones lol
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
September 07 2011 10:07 GMT
#656
Oh man, I haven't read all the pages yet but I can bet there will be sooo much balance whining.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 07 2011 10:07 GMT
#657
On September 07 2011 19:03 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:57 roymarthyup wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:53 snafoo wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:51 roymarthyup wrote:
high level players can make mistakes. im just saying MC played badly. dont like the balance whine people say every time a player loses. im toss and ill say i dont think the game showed any imbalances



I don't know if you've seen many ZvP's lately, but you can't just turtle and take your third, zerg's get aggressive... thats exactly what losira was waiting for, also check out Coca's games from MLG, every single game against protosss except G2 against HuK is him killing the protoss when they try take their 3rd.



i guess i shouldnt talk as if i know everything

in my experience if you go straight to collossi and only focus on that, it gives you enough strength to hold your third
HOWEVER, maybe im wrong
in those games you suggest, was the toss going for templars before his third was up? if so. he played it wrong imo
and im only talking about how to take your third off a voidray opening. maybe his opening was different. sometimes you do want to go for templars before the third.


maybe i am completely wrong. maybe the power of collossi isnt enough to hold your third. i havnt experienced it, but i still admit i MAY be wrong. i guess i should shut up and stop talking like i know everything

i will admit, if my collossi idea is wrong, then in that situation MC has no options and was going to lose the game no matter what.

so i guess the imbalance claimers do have sort of a point... maybe....


Well in coca's games vs naniwa, coca took really quick 3rd, droned, went roach hydra corrupter and attacked when naniwa's 3rd was completing. both games naniwa went only gateway/colossus/+atk upgrade, got completely crushed both games.

Yeah, depends on the maps.

In most maps, Colossus alone just aren't strong enough to hold. Usually you can defend the third but take heavy losses and lose to the next fight :|

On September 07 2011 19:04 blah_blah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote:
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/1356524/taketobreak

Or diamond, but whatever.



lol...
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
September 07 2011 10:07 GMT
#658
On September 07 2011 19:04 blah_blah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote:
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/1356524/taketobreak

Or diamond, but whatever.


how do you know that this is his acc and how can someone have 193 points while winning 200 games and not demoted
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
September 07 2011 10:07 GMT
#659
On September 07 2011 19:06 MrCon wrote:
Jjakji is playing that perfectly until now. Perfect turret timing, perfect upgrades timings, perfect perfect <3


Moletrap doesn't agree: "I mean he's getting outclassed, but not completely". He said that 2 minutes earlier :D
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
September 07 2011 10:07 GMT
#660
I only want Losira to win.
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