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Nightrain
Profile Joined August 2010
481 Posts
September 03 2011 21:38 GMT
#301
I doubt idra officially stated his forfeit, he must have just ragequit and turn off the PC
If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 03 2011 21:38 GMT
#302
On September 04 2011 06:38 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 06:32 forgottendreams wrote:
lmfao I went to the fridge and ate a few snacks came back and the series is over.

GG


Same... Can anyone outline a quick summar with points like this to the games and exactly what BM went on?

There was no BM on stream, other than idra leaving without gg and then not wanting to play the remaining games (they both even said gl hf!)
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
September 03 2011 21:39 GMT
#303
TB just deleted the following replays and faked an IdrA forfeit while IdrA was lifting weights obviously, guys.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
September 03 2011 21:40 GMT
#304
I would like to congratulate Nerchio for his clutch decision making. When he run the banes into Idra's main, i was 100% sure he was going for the drones. But he was way clever than that, he realized that Idra's lings were following, so he changed direction and got all the lings at the ramp. It was a really smart move.

Idra don't deserve a tenth of the attention and the money he gets. He's the epitome of mediocrity.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
BatCat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Austria630 Posts
September 03 2011 21:41 GMT
#305
TB and CatZ? Wow :D
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 03 2011 21:41 GMT
#306
On September 04 2011 06:37 JohnMatrix wrote:
when we think taht Nerchio who seems way better right now than Idra dont get any invite to big tourneys like ipl, dreamhack and such its pretty questionable on invites choice so far

Nerchio have been getting invites but he never attended lan tournaments.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 21:42:56
September 03 2011 21:42 GMT
#307
idra will be a symbol of disappointment soon
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 03 2011 21:42 GMT
#308
On September 04 2011 06:40 legaton wrote:
I would like to congratulate Nerchio for his clutch decision making. When he run the banes into Idra's main, i was 100% sure he was going for the drones. But he was way clever than that, he realized that Idra's lings were following, so he changed direction and got all the lings at the ramp. It was a really smart move.

Idra don't deserve a tenth of the attention and the money he gets. He's the epitome of mediocrity.


Yeah that was very good. Idra was expecting him to go for the drones too, it looked like.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
September 03 2011 21:42 GMT
#309
On September 04 2011 06:38 syllogism wrote:
Idra was in a great position to win the game after nerchio's worse opening, but once again he was lazy with scouting

It wasn't a worse opening, it was timing. Nerchio got his speed and banes about 15-30 sec before IdrA and he used that opportunity perfectly. Idra scouted badly and didn't prepare at all...
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
DetO
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland69 Posts
September 03 2011 21:43 GMT
#310
On September 04 2011 06:37 JohnMatrix wrote:
when we think taht Nerchio who seems way better right now than Idra dont get any invite to big tourneys like ipl, dreamhack and such its pretty questionable on invites choice so far

well nerchio is better player than idra but he isnt as "big" as idra. EG with all their videos, interviews and shit makes idra look like the best zerg out there with all that coverage. it kinda sux really when idra isnt even top5 non-kor zerg and gets invites to events only because he is more famous than nerchio. skill doesnt matter it seems
o,o
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 21:54:23
September 03 2011 21:43 GMT
#311
Sidenote: ZvZ is now a really important matchup; almost the new TvT. Zergs are doing well lately, and the probability of hitting other zergs near the top of events is higher than it ever was. Godly ZvZ and solid in the other two matchups makes a zerg progamer likely the best player (similarly to the godly TvT + solid otherwise terrans).
On September 04 2011 06:38 Nightrain wrote:
I doubt idra officially stated his forfeit, he must have just ragequit and turn off the PC
Well, Machine and Incontrol put muscle power into Idra's hands, and now he smashes headsets and whatnot... if he hits computers too, that might be that.
On September 04 2011 06:37 JohnMatrix wrote:
when we think taht Nerchio who seems way better right now than Idra dont get any invite to big tourneys like ipl, dreamhack and such its pretty questionable on invites choice so far
If Nerchio as IPL2 vice-champ doesn't get invite for IPL3 (as it seems so far) that would be so absurd.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
September 03 2011 21:43 GMT
#312
On September 04 2011 06:42 Murdock wrote:
idra will be a symbol of disappointment soon


He already has been for the past two months.... he'll probably get it back when he goes back to Korea but until then he'll continue to be.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 03 2011 21:44 GMT
#313
On September 04 2011 06:42 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 06:38 syllogism wrote:
Idra was in a great position to win the game after nerchio's worse opening, but once again he was lazy with scouting

It wasn't a worse opening, it was timing. Nerchio got his speed and banes about 15-30 sec before IdrA and he used that opportunity perfectly. Idra scouted badly and didn't prepare at all...

Yes it was a worse opening because if he had bothered to move the OL and gotten a slightly earlier baneling nest + queens in position, nerchio would have been way behind. Of course this happens in zvz all the time, but nerchio didn't do anything particularly impressive to win the game; idra lost it.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#314
Yong was one of the Protosses who got eliminated yesterday in the Code A quals.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#315
Attero was ahead for a minute gg
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
September 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#316
Yong just started streaming on TL btw if anyone's curious to see him play some more in the future:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262160
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
September 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#317
On September 04 2011 06:37 JohnMatrix wrote:
when we think taht Nerchio who seems way better right now than Idra dont get any invite to big tourneys like ipl, dreamhack and such its pretty questionable on invites choice so far


That's why invites are always a joke in an ever evolving game like SC2 unless, it's no contest choices, like current champions(Nestea/MVP) or EXTREMELY popular players(Boxer). While Idra will guarantee eyeballs to w/e event he gets invited to, if you're event is big enough and has other big names, you don't need to invite him. He's not even the best NA zerg anymore. Basically the invites he gets at this point are just trying to guarantee drama.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
September 03 2011 21:47 GMT
#318
On September 04 2011 06:45 Knightess wrote:
Attero was ahead for a minute gg

He dint have blink, so he was never really ahead
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 03 2011 21:47 GMT
#319
On September 04 2011 06:46 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 06:37 JohnMatrix wrote:
when we think taht Nerchio who seems way better right now than Idra dont get any invite to big tourneys like ipl, dreamhack and such its pretty questionable on invites choice so far


That's why invites are always a joke in an ever evolving game like SC2 unless, it's no contest choices, like current champions(Nestea/MVP) or EXTREMELY popular players(Boxer). While Idra will guarantee eyeballs to w/e event he gets invited to, if you're event is big enough and has other big names, you don't need to invite him. He's not even the best NA zerg anymore. Basically the invites he gets at this point are just trying to guarantee drama.

Nerchio does get invites, but doesn't accept them or doesn't bother to show up. His loss
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 03 2011 21:49 GMT
#320
On September 04 2011 06:44 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 06:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 04 2011 06:38 syllogism wrote:
Idra was in a great position to win the game after nerchio's worse opening, but once again he was lazy with scouting

It wasn't a worse opening, it was timing. Nerchio got his speed and banes about 15-30 sec before IdrA and he used that opportunity perfectly. Idra scouted badly and didn't prepare at all...

Yes it was a worse opening because if he had bothered to move the OL and gotten a slightly earlier baneling nest + queens in position, nerchio would have been way behind. Of course this happens in zvz all the time, but nerchio didn't do anything particularly impressive to win the game; idra lost it.


I've seen so many games where the guy who goes hatch first falls behind in drone count in the first few minutes because he has no map control and has to play very safe, that I really question whether it really gives an advantage.
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