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Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 15:46:10
September 10 2011 15:45 GMT
#1301
On September 11 2011 00:43 AsnSensation wrote:
Yeah also just selecting a small samplesize is not very representative, considering that Nada ( I love Nada) has very decent v.P and has been playing one of his first foreign events, pls don't forget that he roflstomped amost everyone after his loss against kiwikaki in rayleigh.

And Chobo why don't you mention the matches against bomber, coca etc against Huk or naniwa ( our foreign protoss hopes) where they got completely destroyed.

I'm talking about PvT and Bomber didn't play a single Protoss in Raleigh... And Coca plays Zerg LOL
SaSe fan club manager
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
September 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#1302
On September 11 2011 00:41 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:39 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:37 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:29 Seronei wrote:
Protoss is the best performing race outside of Korea recently, while worst in Korea. It's really weird.

Protoss foreigners still get absolutely stomped when korean terrans come over and win everything (NASL IEM MLG) so it really doesn't say much.

Mana vs Nada
Elfi vs Nada
Kiwikaki vs Nada
Mana vs Puma

Sup son? P(foreigner)vT(korean) is probably the matchup which foreigners have the highest winrate in rate now. Maybe that's mostly Nada's fault tho ^^.

Haha even Mana said puma didnt give it his all that game, and let me ask you who ended up winning the tournament? Also 3 of your examples are NaDa who has extremely lackluster vP.

Still which Korean Protoss would you rate higher than Mana, Naniwa, Huk and Sase? The only two I can think of is MC and Genius and even those are questionable.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot JYP T__T

Forgot hero and sage and puzzle, up and coming, code A's for protoss, Code S's for terran
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 10 2011 15:47 GMT
#1303
On September 11 2011 00:45 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:41 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:39 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:37 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:29 Seronei wrote:
Protoss is the best performing race outside of Korea recently, while worst in Korea. It's really weird.

Protoss foreigners still get absolutely stomped when korean terrans come over and win everything (NASL IEM MLG) so it really doesn't say much.

Mana vs Nada
Elfi vs Nada
Kiwikaki vs Nada
Mana vs Puma

Sup son? P(foreigner)vT(korean) is probably the matchup which foreigners have the highest winrate in rate now. Maybe that's mostly Nada's fault tho ^^.

Haha even Mana said puma didnt give it his all that game, and let me ask you who ended up winning the tournament? Also 3 of your examples are NaDa who has extremely lackluster vP.

Still which Korean Protoss would you rate higher than Mana, Naniwa, Huk and Sase? The only two I can think of is MC and Genius and even those are questionable.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot JYP T__T


yeah jyp and puzzle definitely, Genius not even up there imo and lets hope Mc gets his stuff back together.


Sage, obviously
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 10 2011 15:47 GMT
#1304
Tyler..........
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
September 10 2011 15:47 GMT
#1305
On September 11 2011 00:46 taldarimAltar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:41 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:39 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:37 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:29 Seronei wrote:
Protoss is the best performing race outside of Korea recently, while worst in Korea. It's really weird.

Protoss foreigners still get absolutely stomped when korean terrans come over and win everything (NASL IEM MLG) so it really doesn't say much.

Mana vs Nada
Elfi vs Nada
Kiwikaki vs Nada
Mana vs Puma

Sup son? P(foreigner)vT(korean) is probably the matchup which foreigners have the highest winrate in rate now. Maybe that's mostly Nada's fault tho ^^.

Haha even Mana said puma didnt give it his all that game, and let me ask you who ended up winning the tournament? Also 3 of your examples are NaDa who has extremely lackluster vP.

Still which Korean Protoss would you rate higher than Mana, Naniwa, Huk and Sase? The only two I can think of is MC and Genius and even those are questionable.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot JYP T__T

Forgot hero and sage and puzzle, up and coming, code A's for protoss, Code S's for terran

Puzzle for sure, Hero and Sage is questionable. ^^.
SaSe fan club manager
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 15:48:56
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#1306

The series between mana and puma was also influenced by the fact the maps did not allow for 1/1/1 lets remember that.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#1307
On September 11 2011 00:45 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:43 AsnSensation wrote:
Yeah also just selecting a small samplesize is not very representative, considering that Nada ( I love Nada) has very decent v.P and has been playing one of his first foreign events, pls don't forget that he roflstomped amost everyone after his loss against kiwikaki in rayleigh.

And Chobo why don't you mention the matches against bomber, coca etc against Huk or naniwa ( our foreign protoss hopes) where they got completely destroyed.

I'm talking about PvT and Bomber didn't play a single Protoss in Raleigh... And Coca plays Zerg LOL


But as far as I can tell, the discussion was about the general level of performance for foreign and korean protoss, forgive me if I'm wrong.
akirofi
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland32 Posts
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#1308
3 pages of arguing about koreans, wasnt this thread for the tournament with no koreans
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#1309
what were those ffs supposed to do?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#1310
On September 11 2011 00:47 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:45 AsnSensation wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:41 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:39 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:37 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:29 Seronei wrote:
Protoss is the best performing race outside of Korea recently, while worst in Korea. It's really weird.

Protoss foreigners still get absolutely stomped when korean terrans come over and win everything (NASL IEM MLG) so it really doesn't say much.

Mana vs Nada
Elfi vs Nada
Kiwikaki vs Nada
Mana vs Puma

Sup son? P(foreigner)vT(korean) is probably the matchup which foreigners have the highest winrate in rate now. Maybe that's mostly Nada's fault tho ^^.

Haha even Mana said puma didnt give it his all that game, and let me ask you who ended up winning the tournament? Also 3 of your examples are NaDa who has extremely lackluster vP.

Still which Korean Protoss would you rate higher than Mana, Naniwa, Huk and Sase? The only two I can think of is MC and Genius and even those are questionable.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot JYP T__T


yeah jyp and puzzle definitely, Genius not even up there imo and lets hope Mc gets his stuff back together.


Sage, obviously


okay artosis

sry I forgot hero
MacAtry
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany10 Posts
September 10 2011 15:49 GMT
#1311
On September 11 2011 00:36 Malinor wrote:

It is not nice that you call me an idiot. The other players have nothing to prove, we know they are top foreigners. Destiny has done nothing noteworthy beside an online Bo3 win against a good korean.

You also only need 3 lines to find excuses for three losses in a row, that is quite telling in my opinion.


Well, but he's right.
Maybe Destiny has not achieved that much noteworthy, but these days TLO isn't much better, so I guess it's pretty even. I think his main point was just, that all these players need to be respected as they play. And they do not attend these tournaments because they are doing some gold league stuff like most of us. So it's a little bit arrogant to call Destiny a low bird, while everyone else in this tourney is great.

Don't you also hate these people, who talk badly about a respected player of a soccer team, just because he missed that penalty? Calling a SC2 pro overrated in this kind of situation is nothing less.
lardroom
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1017 Posts
September 10 2011 15:49 GMT
#1312
Weird push by DDE - no siege mode or air to spot and only one tank.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
September 10 2011 15:49 GMT
#1313
On September 11 2011 00:47 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:46 taldarimAltar wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:41 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:39 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:37 Choboo wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
On September 11 2011 00:29 Seronei wrote:
Protoss is the best performing race outside of Korea recently, while worst in Korea. It's really weird.

Protoss foreigners still get absolutely stomped when korean terrans come over and win everything (NASL IEM MLG) so it really doesn't say much.

Mana vs Nada
Elfi vs Nada
Kiwikaki vs Nada
Mana vs Puma

Sup son? P(foreigner)vT(korean) is probably the matchup which foreigners have the highest winrate in rate now. Maybe that's mostly Nada's fault tho ^^.

Haha even Mana said puma didnt give it his all that game, and let me ask you who ended up winning the tournament? Also 3 of your examples are NaDa who has extremely lackluster vP.

Still which Korean Protoss would you rate higher than Mana, Naniwa, Huk and Sase? The only two I can think of is MC and Genius and even those are questionable.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot JYP T__T

Forgot hero and sage and puzzle, up and coming, code A's for protoss, Code S's for terran

Puzzle for sure, Hero and Sage is questionable. ^^.

SaSe said on his stream, that Sage is the best Protoss at the moment. So it's not only Artosis hype
PaterPatriae
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany428 Posts
September 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#1314
On September 11 2011 00:48 taldarimAltar wrote:
what were those ffs supposed to do?


secure his army til the collo comes out
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
September 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#1315
On September 11 2011 00:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Too many people with opinions

Make R1CH release his poster-quality rating bot!
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
September 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#1316
On September 11 2011 00:48 Olinim wrote:

The series between mana and puma was also influenced by the fact the maps did not allow for 1/1/1 lets remember that.

So you're admitting that Mana > Puma if he can't 1/1/1 considering that almost no Protoss can hold that off...
SaSe fan club manager
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#1317
On September 11 2011 00:49 lardroom wrote:
Weird push by DDE - no siege mode or air to spot and only one tank.


Didn't he just get a defensive tank out early? Seen a couple of NA terrans do that at least.

Oh well, DDE just rolled Tyler there.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#1318
awful control from tyler, and make some scv's DDE.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#1319
Wow Tyler...
Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
September 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#1320


Poor Tyler...
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