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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 14:13:13
September 10 2011 14:08 GMT
#1021
The term 'all-in' is the most overused term in the short history of SC2, jesus. Game 1 and 3 were timing attacks which often have a follow up, unless they get shut down completely without doing any damage (which is unlikely). I have seen him transitioning out of that 7 gate on the same map before. Game 2 surely was a little bit cheesier, but then again, this is a Bo5 and if you just drone-up three times in a row and rush to higher tech units, well, you just saw what happens then.

But it has to be said, that wasn't all Socke, Dimaga just played not very good here. The stress with WCG-Ukraine at the same time probably got to him, and his ZvP is historially not his best matchup either.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
FilthyLucre
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany108 Posts
September 10 2011 14:10 GMT
#1022
Mb i missed it, but why is Idra not in? O_o
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 14:10:57
September 10 2011 14:10 GMT
#1023
On September 10 2011 23:07 obsKura wrote:
For some uninformed people here: Socke won SCI2 convincingly and he just destroyed DIMAGA. Why the hell do you call him a bad player?!
Socke is probably one of the most underrated players in the scene.

On September 10 2011 23:10 FilthyLucre wrote:
Mb i missed it, but why is Idra not in? O_o

He didn't reach the necessary gg quota in August.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 10 2011 14:10 GMT
#1024
Zerg players calling timing attacks all-ins, aren't we used to this by now?

WP by Socke though, maybe people will stop underrating him once he takes his second SCI in a row.
Sacro
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway237 Posts
September 10 2011 14:11 GMT
#1025
TLO vs Destiny should be really fun!
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
September 10 2011 14:11 GMT
#1026
On September 10 2011 23:10 FilthyLucre wrote:
Mb i missed it, but why is Idra not in? O_o

He wasn't invited?

He and TB are not really best friends, so no shocker.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
September 10 2011 14:12 GMT
#1027
On September 10 2011 23:07 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 23:02 dragoonier wrote:
Protoss is struggling no question about it but we're talkig about the Korean scene not the European scene.


Protoss is struggling against Terran in the Korean scene, but Protoss players complain more about Zerg, I'm not sure why. Maybe they miss the days when all PvZs were "eeji win" for MC.


It's because the winning percentages in PvZ are even worse than in PvT
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 10 2011 14:12 GMT
#1028
On September 10 2011 23:08 SayHello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 23:07 obsKura wrote:
For some uninformed people here: Socke won SCI2 convincingly and he just destroyed DIMAGA. Why the hell do you call him a bad player?!


Because he is only good when he is playing from home. They know him from live events where he is sometimes just throwing games away with crazy builds.


Didn't he finish in Top4 at IEM Cologne? Sure, he got 3-0d by PuMa, but the exact same thing happened to MC in the finals.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
September 10 2011 14:12 GMT
#1029
is TLO Tipjar still broken what is happening there? does Shoutcraft staff know?
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
September 10 2011 14:13 GMT
#1030
On September 10 2011 23:08 Malinor wrote:
The term 'all-in' is the most overused term in the short history of SC2, jesus. Game 1 and 3 were timing attacks which often have a follow up, unless they get shut down completely. I have seen him transitioning out of that 7 gate on the same map before. Game 2 surely was a little bit cheesier, but then again, this is a Bo5 and if you just drone-up three times in a row and rush to higher tech units, well, you just saw what happens then.

But it has to be said, that wasn't all Socke, Dimaga just played not very good here. The stress with WCG-Ukraine at the same time probably got to him, and his ZvP is historially not his best matchup either.


Couldn't agree more dude. Protoss are SUPPOSED to do timing attacks because of chrono boost. People just like to piss and moan if it's not a 45 minute game.
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
September 10 2011 14:13 GMT
#1031
early in the morning, hope destiny is awake
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
September 10 2011 14:13 GMT
#1032
On September 10 2011 23:11 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 23:10 FilthyLucre wrote:
Mb i missed it, but why is Idra not in? O_o

He wasn't invited?

He and TB are not really best friends, so no shocker.


i don't get why people say this sort of thing either, it's an invitational for crying out loud
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
September 10 2011 14:13 GMT
#1033
On September 10 2011 23:10 FilthyLucre wrote:
Mb i missed it, but why is Idra not in? O_o

Why isn't Flash invited? Why isn't Gordon Hayward invited? Why isn't Obama invited?
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 14:15:02
September 10 2011 14:13 GMT
#1034
edit : dunno why I would post that in that thread, I guess the balance talk everywhere is getting at me ><

Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
September 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1035
On September 10 2011 23:12 LoCaD wrote:
is TLO Tipjar still broken what is happening there? does Shoutcraft staff know?


It works just fine when we tested. Unsure if the German PayPal is deterring some donors but there's really nothing we can do about that. We are using the paypal address that TL provided for him.
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Spoonska
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
September 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1036
Socke is very good I just think he does a lot of things that gives you a O_o face. Like killing a pylon that's warping in units.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
September 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1037
On September 10 2011 23:08 SayHello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 23:07 obsKura wrote:
For some uninformed people here: Socke won SCI2 convincingly and he just destroyed DIMAGA. Why the hell do you call him a bad player?!


Because he is only good when he is playing from home. They know him from live events where he is sometimes just throwing games away with crazy builds.


So not true...
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
September 10 2011 14:16 GMT
#1038
On September 10 2011 23:07 Mythal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 23:04 Allwars wrote:
On September 10 2011 22:50 youngminii wrote:
I really like Socke's play. Imagine if he had Korean mechanics, he'd be so strong.


How can you like all-in after all-in?


It's all it's possible against zerg these days, exploit some timings or die. Macro longterm games are really really hard to win for a P against Z


Sure. I'm not saying he is a bad player for doing all-ins/timings. But that kind of play is not enjoyable to watch at all.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
September 10 2011 14:17 GMT
#1039
So when is the next set gonna start...?
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Buzzo
Profile Joined June 2011
58 Posts
September 10 2011 14:18 GMT
#1040
On September 10 2011 23:08 Malinor wrote:
The term 'all-in' is the most overused term in the short history of SC2, jesus. [...].


Indeed, btw any form of protoss early aggression is all-innish in nature, a protoss army can't really escape from a battle and a protoss can't really rebuild as fast as T or Z can (on 2 bases).

Btw atm a protoss can't stay passive against a zerg, in the end is the metagame shift everyone is talking about.

Well played by Socke.
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