|
On August 29 2011 18:57 WindCalibur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:54 Akhee wrote:On August 29 2011 18:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
What is mkp doing goddammit.
Is he not aware of the fact that bio's strenght relies on mobility, and not head to head combat?
WHy on earth is he engaging tanks directly? he was in a situation ganzi could just walk to his natural and kill him, engaging in the middle of the map unsieged was the best way to try to comeback Ugh no actually. I don't kno what part of you think that suiciding your army against mech was a good idea nor do I kno why marineking thinks that bio is more efficient than mech. Marine king needed to attack at many locations at the same time and abuse his mobility. How many times has he darted a small group of units to the bottom center using the right route? None.
I totally disagree. After suiciding his 3 medivacs the couldnt drop so strong anymore, vikings would counter it perfectly and there was a lot of them
|
On August 29 2011 18:54 Godstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:53 densha wrote:
I love that we're finally at the point where the superiority of mech over bio is pretty much a given, it's just sad to see MKP has yet to adopt the style. Mech is boring as fuck, how can you love that? Air and bio is a lot more entertaining than tanks sieging up and hellions running around 2 shotting 30 scv's. Go mkp you can do it!
Well I think bio is really boring (stim -> a-move [which is what makes TvP my least favorite matchup to watch]). Anyway, mech is really what allows for transition into massive air armies so you should enjoy it for that at least. Ganzi is the one who got BCs, not MKP.
|
MKP follows the CC with 2 rax.
Ganzi's factory completes and throws down a tech lab on it right as it completes.
|
He's been doing CC first in TvT for like, ever? If I recall correctly.
|
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.. fool me thrice??
|
On August 29 2011 19:01 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 19:00 Emporio wrote:On August 29 2011 18:59 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 29 2011 18:57 DivinitySC2 wrote:On August 29 2011 18:51 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Urgh. that was such poor play coming from MKP...seriously charging head first into sieged tanks with infantry 3-4 times? wtf? plzzzz MKP build some mech! Do you even know why this guy has such a huge foreign fanbase? Its specificly BECAUSE he charges into siege lines and dosent make mech(works most of the time), he did not lose because of that style, he lost b/c of that botched 3 medivack drop.. you act like mech has always been standard... MKP has a huge fanbase because of how well he did earlier on. Hell, people still love FruitDealer. Fruitdealer had (and still has on the rare moments he plays well) an incredibly unique style that was basically centered around well-planned cheese. and MKP had a very unique style (MARINES!!!!) which people loved and had success. FruitDealer wouldn't have had those fans if he didn't win though. Same with MKP
MKP doesn't play like that anymore.
|
On August 29 2011 18:58 Godstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:57 Demonace34 wrote:On August 29 2011 18:54 Onlinejaguar wrote:On August 29 2011 18:53 Poopi wrote:
Seriously when the mech trend in TvT will end, so disgusting to see.
Even GanZi took Mvp out with mech against Mvp's bio on this map LOL Yeh its sooooo disgusting to see people implement winning strategy's  . Yeah, it is disgusting to see a macro game with positioning battles, hellion harass and sniping medivacs with vikings. I am a fan of mech play because it seems like mech v mech the better player will always win. Bio takes a ton of balls these days and always have to spread your units like a madman to avoid tank splash. The better player wins with bio too, though it's alot harder. That's why we want to see mkp pull it off.
MKP bio tends to always go toward base trade situations after he realizes he is behind. I am a fan of mech and blatantly biased against pure bio-medivac, bio-mech isn't too bad though.
|
France13023 Posts
On August 29 2011 19:00 WindCalibur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:58 Poopi wrote:On August 29 2011 18:55 WindCalibur wrote:
Bio works against mech. Watch Bomber's games against other koreans in the recent MLG and watch how he uses his mobility and bigger economy to get a even bigger economy. Also notice how he continues to engage well and trade units. When you see bio win against mech (not with huge early advantage or something like that) when it's someone like Mvp playing mech we can say that bio barely works against mech lol. Bomber was so far better than any korean at MLG (the terrans one I mean) it wasn't even funny. Puma and Rain will fall more and more in skill/metagame anyways and Noblesse is average tvt Well I guess I am curious myself to see how bio fairs against mech when top terrans play it. Lets hope that in the future we get to see Bomber and Mvp duke it out again with one of them going mech and other going bio.
Polt still uses bio in TvT but he lost against Bomber (not because of bio tho, game 1 air fight failed and game 2 bo loss) and he won against Noblesse both times but he was really much better so if he and Mvp can win their matches we will see a top "bio" player against the best terran/mech player
|
Blue flame on the way for Ganzi
MKP lands his orbital at his natural and takes double gas in his main.
Starport starts for Ganzi as well as a CC
|
On August 29 2011 19:01 Akhee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:57 WindCalibur wrote:On August 29 2011 18:54 Akhee wrote:On August 29 2011 18:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
What is mkp doing goddammit.
Is he not aware of the fact that bio's strenght relies on mobility, and not head to head combat?
WHy on earth is he engaging tanks directly? he was in a situation ganzi could just walk to his natural and kill him, engaging in the middle of the map unsieged was the best way to try to comeback Ugh no actually. I don't kno what part of you think that suiciding your army against mech was a good idea nor do I kno why marineking thinks that bio is more efficient than mech. Marine king needed to attack at many locations at the same time and abuse his mobility. How many times has he darted a small group of units to the bottom center using the right route? None. I totally disagree. After suiciding his 3 medivacs the couldnt drop so strong anymore, vikings would counter it perfectly and there was a lot of them
Too bad you don't actually need medivacs to abuse your mobility. Ganzi can't cover half the map with his siege tanks or else he would be spread too thin.
|
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
thank you for reminding about that moletrap!
DRG CODE S BITCHEZZZ!
|
Everytime I see Ganzi in a TvT, I enjoy that matchup.
|
On August 29 2011 18:57 DivinitySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:51 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Urgh. that was such poor play coming from MKP...seriously charging head first into sieged tanks with infantry 3-4 times? wtf? plzzzz MKP build some mech! Do you even know why this guy has such a huge foreign fanbase? Its specificly BECAUSE he charges into siege lines and dosent make mech(works most of the time), he did not lose because of that style, he lost b/c of that botched 3 medivack drop..
... That is the reason why he has a huge foreign fanbase? You can't be serious.
|
On August 29 2011 19:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
thank you for reminding about that moletrap!
DRG CODE S BITCHEZZZ!
Was he in code A previously?
|
On August 29 2011 19:02 Emporio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 19:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 29 2011 19:00 Emporio wrote:On August 29 2011 18:59 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 29 2011 18:57 DivinitySC2 wrote:On August 29 2011 18:51 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Urgh. that was such poor play coming from MKP...seriously charging head first into sieged tanks with infantry 3-4 times? wtf? plzzzz MKP build some mech! Do you even know why this guy has such a huge foreign fanbase? Its specificly BECAUSE he charges into siege lines and dosent make mech(works most of the time), he did not lose because of that style, he lost b/c of that botched 3 medivack drop.. you act like mech has always been standard... MKP has a huge fanbase because of how well he did earlier on. Hell, people still love FruitDealer. Fruitdealer had (and still has on the rare moments he plays well) an incredibly unique style that was basically centered around well-planned cheese. and MKP had a very unique style (MARINES!!!!) which people loved and had success. FruitDealer wouldn't have had those fans if he didn't win though. Same with MKP MKP doesn't play like that anymore.
didn't say he did. But he gained his fans then. Well the majority at least
|
On August 29 2011 19:03 pred470r wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 19:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
thank you for reminding about that moletrap!
DRG CODE S BITCHEZZZ! Was he in code A previously?
Yeah. I don't think he made up-and-downs though.
|
On August 29 2011 19:02 Amuse wrote:
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.. fool me thrice??
I want to complete this with that George W Bush quote >.<
|
On August 29 2011 19:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/D2spR.jpg) no MKP you cannot win.
haha LMAO
|
Ganzi is pretty much mimicking his build front last game. Reactor on his Rax with a medivac coming out.
Orbital completes for ganzi
MKP has 4 rax with 1 factory. Stim started for MKP
|
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
On August 29 2011 19:03 Elurie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:57 DivinitySC2 wrote:On August 29 2011 18:51 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Urgh. that was such poor play coming from MKP...seriously charging head first into sieged tanks with infantry 3-4 times? wtf? plzzzz MKP build some mech! Do you even know why this guy has such a huge foreign fanbase? Its specificly BECAUSE he charges into siege lines and dosent make mech(works most of the time), he did not lose because of that style, he lost b/c of that botched 3 medivack drop.. ... That is the reason why he has a huge foreign fanbase? You can't be serious.
yea,you don't even know why you're a fan of someone?(I'm talking about the guy you quoted not you.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
