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+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 17:24 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 17:21 Ciraxis wrote:On August 29 2011 16:37 HQuality wrote:On August 29 2011 15:44 Ciraxis wrote:
Another boring TvT...
Nevertheless, I shall support MarineKing, hope he wins =) what? tvt with ganzi is never boring, man as well as with marineking almost never I'm not too familiar with how Ganzi plays, nor am I aware of MarineKing's TvT abilities. I just remember back in the open league MarineKing's amazing Marine micro against Zerg particularly against Banelings, which was so so awesome. Whenever I watch his games nowadays I always do so with the anticipation of seeing him pull off some new tricks. Still, I'll take your word, hopefully it'll be a great game! Haha go watch the last TvT Ganzi played, vs Taeja, in the semi's. It was anything but boring. Oh and you have time to do so before the finals start as it only took about 30 mins. On August 29 2011 17:25 BobMcJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 17:21 Ciraxis wrote:On August 29 2011 16:37 HQuality wrote:On August 29 2011 15:44 Ciraxis wrote:
Another boring TvT...
Nevertheless, I shall support MarineKing, hope he wins =) what? tvt with ganzi is never boring, man as well as with marineking almost never I'm not too familiar with how Ganzi plays, nor am I aware of MarineKing's TvT abilities. I just remember back in the open league MarineKing's amazing Marine micro against Zerg particularly against Banelings, which was so so awesome. Whenever I watch his games nowadays I always do so with the anticipation of seeing him pull off some new tricks. Still, I'll take your word, hopefully it'll be a great game! Go watch the Ganzi vs Taeja Semi-final before todays matches start, to get an overview of Ganzi's TvT, you wont regret it  Also Ganzi is gonna take it, MKP even while making it up to the finals has been looking a bit shaky, and quite a few of his matches were looking more like his opponent being bad than him really playing well. Ganzi on the other hand was looking like a motherfucking cold blooded killer.
Don't have premium membership guys =(
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Ganzi played that so solidly - minus the idle 15 scv's in his main that were sitting still for like a year.
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and MKP again proves that he can't do late game without going in with a huge advantage.
As much as he is good at micro and stuff like that, he seriously needs better game management especially as the game gets longer.
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I love that we're finally at the point where the superiority of mech over bio is pretty much a given, it's just sad to see MKP has yet to adopt the style.
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Kinda getting boring watching MKP trying to force bio in every game.
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Dear MKP,
This is not beta anymore.
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nukes too expensive with only 2 bases
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On August 29 2011 18:50 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:46 Zhalad wrote:
Ganzi... fusion core vs bio? maybe marine king got a chance now... lol Apparently you've never watched Cattlebruisers. They wreck bio BAD. Marauders can't shoot them and Marines barely dent them.
3/3 Marines do alright vs non-upgraded ones, and I didn't see any upgrades...
I think Ganzi was just using them more as a meat shield for tanks anyway, not a full tech switch, so the point is moot.
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On August 29 2011 18:53 Poopi wrote:
Seriously when the mech trend in TvT will end, so disgusting to see.
Even GanZi took Mvp out with mech against Mvp's bio on this map LOL
Why is it disgusting?
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On August 29 2011 18:52 Rammstorm wrote:
what about ghosts and nukes with bio vs mech? snipe + energy upgrade cloak and everything.
One scan and ghost is dead, siege range > nuke range. 
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On August 29 2011 18:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
What is mkp doing goddammit.
Is he not aware of the fact that bio's strenght relies on mobility, and not head to head combat?
WHy on earth is he engaging tanks directly?
he was in a situation ganzi could just walk to his natural and kill him, engaging in the middle of the map unsieged was the best way to try to comeback
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I guess marine king is allergic to gold?
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On August 29 2011 18:53 Poopi wrote:
Seriously when the mech trend in TvT will end, so disgusting to see.
Even GanZi took Mvp out with mech against Mvp's bio on this map LOL
Yeh its sooooo disgusting to see people implement winning strategy's .
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On August 29 2011 18:53 densha wrote:
I love that we're finally at the point where the superiority of mech over bio is pretty much a given, it's just sad to see MKP has yet to adopt the style.
Mech is boring as fuck, how can you love that? Air and bio is a lot more entertaining than tanks sieging up and hellions running around 2 shotting 30 scv's. Go mkp you can do it!
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Bio works against mech. Watch Bomber's games against other koreans in the recent MLG and watch how he uses his mobility and bigger economy to get a even bigger economy. Also notice how he continues to engage well and trade units.
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MKP getting stomped without making Ganzi break so much as a sweat, it's getting hard to believe he'll take a single game at this rate.
Bio can work sometimes against mech, just not the way he's donating him.
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On August 29 2011 18:54 Godstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:53 densha wrote:
I love that we're finally at the point where the superiority of mech over bio is pretty much a given, it's just sad to see MKP has yet to adopt the style. Mech is boring as fuck, how can you love that? Air and bio is a lot more entertaining than tanks sieging up and hellions running around 2 shotting 30 scv's. Go mkp you can do it!
I disagree, mech into late game air with ravens and cattlebruisers TvT has got to be the most exciting matchup IMO
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Honestly I think MKP was just hoping to catch Ganzi unsieged and just steamroll his bio ball and crush the mech army. Problem was Ganzi tank positioning and map awareness allowed him to dodge the bullet that could have given the momentum to MKP and the perhaps the game.
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