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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5021
Shouldn't Coca and Nani play about now? I really wanna see that.
Chickenlegs
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden451 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5022
On August 28 2011 06:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:59 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.

I'm saying he wouldn't be behind if he played safer. And should have expected it. Doesn't matter what noblesse did, its better to play safe.


I don't see why Zergs need to FE to "keep even" with the non-Zerg opponent. That just doesn't sound right to me. Get your pool first, get a queen earlier if you'd like (hey more larvae!), and get the hatchery down a minute or two later with the knowledge that you can't lose 5 minutes into the game.


Also Nestea fought like hell to try and win still, until he had like 5 drones left tried loads of stuff to try and break out, idra would have just GGed instantly
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5023
Nada's TvP is painful to watch, but otherwise he's really solid.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:03:30
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5024
Puma 2-1 Ret gg!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5025
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)

I think Nada's TvZ is better than Ret's ZvT. I think Nada's best matchup is better than Ret's best matchup. I think Nada's TvP is bad .
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5026
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.


Haha, this was good, made me SIRL
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5027
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)


oh come on, you cant expect these keyboard warriors to actually use their head when they can use numbers to concoct their BS statements

GO BOMBER
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5028
On August 28 2011 06:02 TUski wrote:
Can we get an update on pool play standings?


2011 MLG Pro Circuit/Raleigh/Pools
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5029
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)


and how do you that? results, it's easy you just look at them and compare to others, "how to play" is completely subjective.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5030
Funny how Tasteless struggles with what to call Haypro's BW career when he constantly refers to himself as a progamer
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5031
On August 28 2011 06:02 _Mittens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:01 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.

Those players are heavy hitters? lmao all their heavy hitters are there, and half of them are ones that haven't been with EG for more than a month.

SSSSSSWING and a miss.

lol yeah I missed the sarcasm until after I posted lol
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5032
Jokes on him.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5033
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.


No, for cutting corners and playing very risky very early. That's asking to get punished.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5034
lol overlord fail
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5035
omg haypro lol......... did he actually miss bomber's base?
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:03:58
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5036
On August 28 2011 05:59 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:51 phillyd wrote:
The thing that kills me about Idra is that he doesn't look like he gives a shit.

In football (soccer to some), there is a saying that "you don't shoot, you don't score", or that you need to "work the keeper". In essence, what that means is that you have to give every opportunity you can for your opponent to make a mistake. Idra believes that as soon as he is even slightly behind, his opponent will play perfectly and win. That just isn't the case. It's especially ridiculous because the concept of playing 'perfectly' in SC2 is a nonsense.

It WOULD be fun to see a football team not come out for the 2nd half because they were down 0-1 though, saving their strength for the next game instead. Obviously the other team is going to play perfect defence and not allow them any chances to score.


As a footballing aside, sometimes that happens, but if you're talking about Manchester United (arguably the second best football team in the world), what you actually see is a seige of the goal line. People like watching that. It's fun to see.

I usually am happy to see United go a goal down because the result is usually the best attacking play in the world, and it's bred into every United player. They play like that because they are trained to do it. They are hyper-competitive, even in 5-a-side practice matches and they WANT to win.

In 15 years of watching them play, I think I've seen them give up on a game 4 times. Twice was versus Barcelona. Once vs Liverpool. Once vs Bolton, oddly enough. They never give up, even if they're 3 goals down.

Wanting to win is key to competing.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5037
Fail overlord scout
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5038
On August 28 2011 06:01 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.

Those players are heavy hitters? lmao all their heavy hitters are there, and half of them are ones that haven't been with EG for more than a month.


You seem confused.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5039
iraq against a bomber....that was mean i guess xd
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5040
On August 28 2011 05:55 Grapesludge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:48 N1k0 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 HigoSeco wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 arfyron wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:41 Caelixx wrote:
Nobelesse is seriously a coward for doing that, I'm sorry. I can't see anyone defending that.


I'm a huge Idra fan but there's nothing cowardly about doing that. It's a really common opening that Idra should have been able to deal with.


actually watch sheth vs select blizz invitational.

same map
same 3 bunkers
same marine push

sheth loses hatch

wins game


Idra has convinced everyone on the forums and himself that if you lose the hatchery you cant come back and win

You cant unless your opponent is terrible, Noblesse is not terrible


You absolutely can come back after losing your hatchery, Losira has shown that he stops 2x bunker rush by waiting for an overwhelming amount of lings, preferably with speed, and then crushes it. If he deems it necessary to lose the hatch he will, as long as he kills every marine/scv with good efficiency he is not in a bad position.


Nestea vs Top on Bel'shir beach. Nestea lost the hatchery came back and won that game later. Also Leenock against some terran on Crossfire, lost the hatchery and came back and won the game.
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