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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#5041
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)


a pool with nada or boxer for that matter isnt really worth it cuz people will be like " fuck yea nada" and insta vote him cuz he is nada. ret is a good player (did expect more of him this mlg thou) but a nada who is not playing fulltime can still compete / win so i would place him higher
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5042
Come on Haypro, win at least one game!
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5043
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)

I'm hoping you're just trolling.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5044
On August 28 2011 06:02 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:53 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans


1 P HuK 1st 3rd 9th 2835
2 p KiWiKaKi 2nd 4th 11th 2445
3 P TT1 8th 14th 2nd 2360
4 T SeleCT 7th 2nd 12th 2200
5 T PainUser 17th 10th 3rd 1970
6 T drewbie 12th 5th 8th 1925
7 P Tyler 25th 6th 4th 1900
8 T Jinro - - 1st 1800
9 Z SLush 11th 7th 10th 1720
10 T qxc 9th 9th 13th 1490
11 Z IdrA - 1st 17th 1440

Winners Huk. Idra, Naniwa, Jinro (seems pretty even to me.

Liquipedia rankings for MLG last season.... 1 Euro.

IPL Champion last season - Idra

Feel free to stop spouting nonsense.

IPL 1 had no Europeans in it lol...

Also those MLG scores are practically ancient history.
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5045
On August 28 2011 06:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:59 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.

I'm saying he wouldn't be behind if he played safer. And should have expected it. Doesn't matter what noblesse did, its better to play safe.


I don't see why Zergs need to FE to "keep even" with the non-Zerg opponent. That just doesn't sound right to me. Get your pool first, get a queen earlier if you'd like (hey more larvae!), and get the hatchery down a minute or two later with the knowledge that you can't lose 5 minutes into the game.


If IdrA openned pool first and Noblesse didn't commit that much to the bunker rush. IdrA would be so so behind economically. They key to stop a 2rax bunker rush is the drones, not the lings. It was a micro/decision-making loss for IdrA, not a build order loss.
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5046
Useless trying to figure out top foreigner zerg. Sen's asian and he's too good, there's no debate. Dimaga dodges all the major lans. MorroW has been MIA lately and Sheth couldn't handle korea (not that I would mention him under the same breath as the previous 3 anyway).

Wasn't Idra startign to play better 2-3 weeks ago and people were talking about his comeback? Now its the other way round? Seriously people can be up and down on the idra rollercoaster, while dimaga and morrow hide in the shadows away from the drama and show themselves only when the rollercoaster has run 10 loops.

Hi
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5047
On August 28 2011 06:03 Grettin wrote:
Puma 2-1 Ret gg!



boom sticks

at least it was close
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5048
On August 28 2011 05:58 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:56 Asha` wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada





Nada...for now.

So unconvincing lately, but still good enough to be considered all round stronger than Ret.


u sure? from wat i saw yesterday id give ret a 60-40 edge(skillwise)


Nada can still TvT and his TvZ isn't bad. It's just his TvP that seems to be woeful lately.

Perhaps he'll fix that and go back to looking like a boss, but I'd really expected these last few months to be Nada's time to shine if he was on summer break and in full on sc2 mode and he hasn't
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5049
wow haypro that was a huge OL mistake... come on!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5050
On August 28 2011 06:02 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:53 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans


1 P HuK 1st 3rd 9th 2835
2 p KiWiKaKi 2nd 4th 11th 2445
3 P TT1 8th 14th 2nd 2360
4 T SeleCT 7th 2nd 12th 2200
5 T PainUser 17th 10th 3rd 1970
6 T drewbie 12th 5th 8th 1925
7 P Tyler 25th 6th 4th 1900
8 T Jinro - - 1st 1800
9 Z SLush 11th 7th 10th 1720
10 T qxc 9th 9th 13th 1490
11 Z IdrA - 1st 17th 1440

Winners Huk. Idra, Naniwa, Jinro (seems pretty even to me.

Liquipedia rankings for MLG last season.... 1 Euro.

IPL Champion last season - Idra

Feel free to stop spouting nonsense.


If you want to argue with him at least stop quoting results from NA only tournaments?
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5051
bomber starting a bunker
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5052
On August 28 2011 06:02 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:53 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans


1 P HuK 1st 3rd 9th 2835
2 p KiWiKaKi 2nd 4th 11th 2445
3 P TT1 8th 14th 2nd 2360
4 T SeleCT 7th 2nd 12th 2200
5 T PainUser 17th 10th 3rd 1970
6 T drewbie 12th 5th 8th 1925
7 P Tyler 25th 6th 4th 1900
8 T Jinro - - 1st 1800
9 Z SLush 11th 7th 10th 1720
10 T qxc 9th 9th 13th 1490
11 Z IdrA - 1st 17th 1440

Winners Huk. Idra, Naniwa, Jinro (seems pretty even to me.

Liquipedia rankings for MLG last season.... 1 Euro.

IPL Champion last season - Idra

Feel free to stop spouting nonsense.

Europeans don't fly to MLG, IPL season 1 didn't let anyone but NA in.
makes alot of sense doesn't it?
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#5053
wow, catz just lost to Hashe...
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5054
Tasteless is going to have a voice like Columbo in a few years.
Big water
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5055
LOL HAYDER!!! HAHA oh tasteless
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5056
On August 28 2011 05:59 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.

I'm saying he wouldn't be behind if he played safer. And should have expected it. Doesn't matter what noblesse did, its better to play safe.


It's not like pool first auto wins against bunker rushes (Nestea vs SC game 1).

You say safe, I say staying behind and hoping you're way better than your opponent so you can still win later.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5057
On August 28 2011 06:02 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:53 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans


1 P HuK 1st 3rd 9th 2835
2 p KiWiKaKi 2nd 4th 11th 2445
3 P TT1 8th 14th 2nd 2360
4 T SeleCT 7th 2nd 12th 2200
5 T PainUser 17th 10th 3rd 1970
6 T drewbie 12th 5th 8th 1925
7 P Tyler 25th 6th 4th 1900
8 T Jinro - - 1st 1800
9 Z SLush 11th 7th 10th 1720
10 T qxc 9th 9th 13th 1490
11 Z IdrA - 1st 17th 1440

Winners Huk. Idra, Naniwa, Jinro (seems pretty even to me.

Liquipedia rankings for MLG last season.... 1 Euro.

IPL Champion last season - Idra

Feel free to stop spouting nonsense.

Early MLGs and IPL had only NA. DURRRRRRRR
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5058
am i the only one cheering for haypro or is there someone else ?
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5059
On August 28 2011 06:03 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
omg haypro lol......... did he actually miss bomber's base?


He went in too far and got his overlord spotted. Nothing to major.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5060
that BO worked out beautifully by Bomber
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
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