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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4981
On August 28 2011 05:57 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:54 Demonace34 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.

This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?


Yeah because practice time always means results? It doesn't, sometimes you play bad, sometimes you are jet lagged, sometimes your mindset is off. How does one set actually prove anything about a player overall. It doesn't.

Arizona house hasn't even been up long enough to start producing results...I can say the same thing for Naniwa, he hasn't been in Korea long enough for his play-style to balance out and for him to feel good in the position he is in.

Everyone in this thread has to step back and just realize that it isn't as simple as person A beats person B in a Bo3 so Person A is so much better and the other person is trash. Any given Sunday, (Saturday actually).


yeah...but not one can possibly deny that Idra's skills have deteriorated considerably since leaving Korea. He was strong as soon as he came back and has gotten worse and worse. Now, I don't think many people would have him in the top 10 of foreigners at this point.


It comes down to his mindset and less about skill, he throws away games because of it all the time. I'd pick IdrA 9/10 in a 30 minute macro game to win over even some of the top Koreans with this shitty mindset, he just has a personal hump to get over.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4982
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.


He saw it coming. Countering something you see coming isn't blind counter. He scouted 2 rax (12/12) and he saw 3 scvs coming. Judging by the map shakuras and it being highly common to do this on shakuras he has every single piece of Intel he needed to counter it. Really pathetic how people have no idea what scouting is.
j4ckd4v13z
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:00:59
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4983
On August 28 2011 05:58 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Major League Gaming
Puma takes G3 and wins his Pool D series with Ret 2-1


WOOOO go puma!


Ret 1-3? =(
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4984
Btw. Gretorp winning games atm! Go gretorp!
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4985
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.


hilarius irony
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#4986
On August 28 2011 05:55 sharktopus. wrote:
One thing Idra will always be good at is getting people to debate whether or not he's good anymore for 40 pages every time he has a match.

Lol this is too true
kilergrunt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States263 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4987
On August 28 2011 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:54 humbre wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*

idra loses constantly to people nerchio/stephano/ret/dimaga beat, not to mention nerchio owned idra 3-0 practicaly outclassing him in every aspect of micro/macro

I'm not European and I still think they're better than NA. Look at the games and tourneys, just proves it.

Same here, why do some people get so hung up on nationality?
Select | iNkA | Tyler | Huk | Idra | Polt | NaNiwa | PuMa | Spanishiwa | DeMusliM | Slush
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4988
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.


ROFL
QFT
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4989
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.


Dont make fun of those players man! If TriMaster can make it so can they! :D
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4990
Catz is out of the tournament! Booo
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4991
Puma is on fire.
Imagine him being NASL, IEM, MLG and GSL champion in space of 3 months?
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4992
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that


Yes that's what we are doing. U belong to the same group with Idra.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4993
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.

Those players are heavy hitters? lmao all their heavy hitters are there, and half of them are ones that haven't been with EG for more than a month.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4994
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4995
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




I'd say they are pretty close to even in straight up skill, but I feel nada is more... solid/consistent.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4996
On August 28 2011 06:00 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Who won the puma Ret series?


puma won 2-1
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4997
On August 28 2011 05:58 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:56 Asha` wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada





Nada...for now.

So unconvincing lately, but still good enough to be considered all round stronger than Ret.


u sure? from wat i saw yesterday id give ret a 60-40 edge(skillwise)


na man, ret would be knocked into code a immediately if he was in Code S. Nada places 16-8 consistently, he just struggles vs P because of his dated style. There are very few Koreans in Code S that aren't better than every foreigner in the world.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4998
Gretorp 2-0 Whiplash, will face cruncher next. Smash that nub!
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#4999
On August 28 2011 05:58 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:55 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.


Idra is stupid for not blind countering it then? That's basically what you're saying.


whats stupid is Idra doesn't attempt to make a comeback. That bunker rush was by no means an un-winnable situation, and other players have come back from similar encounters. Idra just sees an early deficit as un-winnable. Considering this was the last game in the series he should have at leat tried to make a come back.
blah blah blah...
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#5000
On August 28 2011 06:00 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?

EG is kicking ass as it is, imagine if they brought all their heavy hitters.


ROFL so true <3
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
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