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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
August 27 2011 08:12 GMT
#9861
Where can I find pictures? I can't find anything on MLG's site. ._.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
August 27 2011 08:31 GMT
#9862
Ret 0-2? :/
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
August 27 2011 08:35 GMT
#9863
On August 27 2011 17:31 Coolwhip wrote:
Ret 0-2? :/


They were close. Beter than a 1-1 where the win was close but the loss was horrid.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 08:36:50
August 27 2011 08:36 GMT
#9864
On August 27 2011 15:24 rareh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 15:14 Kalent wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:54 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:45 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:42 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:39 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:35 Euronyme wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:31 windsupernova wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:28 GrungyMunchy wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:25 wats0n wrote:
[quote]
Being criticized by a player 1/1000th their skill is a joke

That was never a good point to be made, I have no idea why people keep saying stuff like this. You can criticize something you yourself can't do, that's what art/music/movie critics do.


Yeah but Lets be honest Artosis has made so many wrong calls that people should really take him with a grain of salt


That's not about him 'calling' something. It's about Hongun not playing solid. Artosis is an expert commentator who watches everything starcraft for a living. If he says someone isn't playing solid, He ain't playing solid.
He might still do well though (bitbybit-effect) but it's not going to last unless he seriously switches up his play. The game is still young, and there are still people high up who don't deserve to be there in comparison to many in code B.


Except that he may as well be arguing that ice is hot in some of those HongUn series and that destroys his credibility on the subject. Hardly makes him an expert if he's going to say something that is completely wrong and untrue. Go back and watch HongUn vs. MC. Look for Artosis's comments. You can't take him serious on the issue and if you do then you probably would agree that ice is hot.


Winning a PvP series is great and all but it doesn't make you good. Hongun takes way too many risks to be considered good, and the only reason he's considered good in Korea is that there are so few competitive Protoss there.


Okay let's not pretend that HongUn isn't rank 13 in the GSL. He has won more than just a PvP series.


What does that have to do to refute my statement? You cited his MC series, one of the most volatile matchups against a player that is very good. Winning that series doesn't make Hongun great. The fact that he's 13th ranked in the GSL means very little. Jinro is 16th and Sanzenith is 11th.

Edit: Changed bad sentence structure


If MC isn't a great protoss, who is? I don't see anybody better than him in the race.


Puzzle, Genius, Alicia, Trickster, Tassadar, but he was once upon a time the best.

MC won't even get through up/down if he continues playing as bad as he does lately.


What complete bullshit. MC is still far better than any of those.

MC won 2 games to clinch the win in GSTL this week.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 27 2011 08:42 GMT
#9865
On August 27 2011 17:36 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 15:24 rareh wrote:
On August 27 2011 15:14 Kalent wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:54 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:45 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:42 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:39 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:35 Euronyme wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:31 windsupernova wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:28 GrungyMunchy wrote:
[quote]
That was never a good point to be made, I have no idea why people keep saying stuff like this. You can criticize something you yourself can't do, that's what art/music/movie critics do.


Yeah but Lets be honest Artosis has made so many wrong calls that people should really take him with a grain of salt


That's not about him 'calling' something. It's about Hongun not playing solid. Artosis is an expert commentator who watches everything starcraft for a living. If he says someone isn't playing solid, He ain't playing solid.
He might still do well though (bitbybit-effect) but it's not going to last unless he seriously switches up his play. The game is still young, and there are still people high up who don't deserve to be there in comparison to many in code B.


Except that he may as well be arguing that ice is hot in some of those HongUn series and that destroys his credibility on the subject. Hardly makes him an expert if he's going to say something that is completely wrong and untrue. Go back and watch HongUn vs. MC. Look for Artosis's comments. You can't take him serious on the issue and if you do then you probably would agree that ice is hot.


Winning a PvP series is great and all but it doesn't make you good. Hongun takes way too many risks to be considered good, and the only reason he's considered good in Korea is that there are so few competitive Protoss there.


Okay let's not pretend that HongUn isn't rank 13 in the GSL. He has won more than just a PvP series.


What does that have to do to refute my statement? You cited his MC series, one of the most volatile matchups against a player that is very good. Winning that series doesn't make Hongun great. The fact that he's 13th ranked in the GSL means very little. Jinro is 16th and Sanzenith is 11th.

Edit: Changed bad sentence structure


If MC isn't a great protoss, who is? I don't see anybody better than him in the race.


Puzzle, Genius, Alicia, Trickster, Tassadar, but he was once upon a time the best.

MC won't even get through up/down if he continues playing as bad as he does lately.


What complete bullshit. MC is still far better than any of those.

MC won 2 games to clinch the win in GSTL this week.


Some people have begin to doubt MC as the Protoss President, even himself said that in an interview. However after the GSTL win he said that he is more confidient now then ever and the so many losses recently has been most of all sniping tactics on him early game.

However, I have no doubt that he is the best protoss in the world. So I agree with you.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
August 27 2011 08:58 GMT
#9866
On August 27 2011 17:42 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 17:36 Rarak wrote:
On August 27 2011 15:24 rareh wrote:
On August 27 2011 15:14 Kalent wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:54 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:45 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:42 SimDawg wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:39 wats0n wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:35 Euronyme wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:31 windsupernova wrote:
[quote]

Yeah but Lets be honest Artosis has made so many wrong calls that people should really take him with a grain of salt


That's not about him 'calling' something. It's about Hongun not playing solid. Artosis is an expert commentator who watches everything starcraft for a living. If he says someone isn't playing solid, He ain't playing solid.
He might still do well though (bitbybit-effect) but it's not going to last unless he seriously switches up his play. The game is still young, and there are still people high up who don't deserve to be there in comparison to many in code B.


Except that he may as well be arguing that ice is hot in some of those HongUn series and that destroys his credibility on the subject. Hardly makes him an expert if he's going to say something that is completely wrong and untrue. Go back and watch HongUn vs. MC. Look for Artosis's comments. You can't take him serious on the issue and if you do then you probably would agree that ice is hot.


Winning a PvP series is great and all but it doesn't make you good. Hongun takes way too many risks to be considered good, and the only reason he's considered good in Korea is that there are so few competitive Protoss there.


Okay let's not pretend that HongUn isn't rank 13 in the GSL. He has won more than just a PvP series.


What does that have to do to refute my statement? You cited his MC series, one of the most volatile matchups against a player that is very good. Winning that series doesn't make Hongun great. The fact that he's 13th ranked in the GSL means very little. Jinro is 16th and Sanzenith is 11th.

Edit: Changed bad sentence structure


If MC isn't a great protoss, who is? I don't see anybody better than him in the race.


Puzzle, Genius, Alicia, Trickster, Tassadar, but he was once upon a time the best.

MC won't even get through up/down if he continues playing as bad as he does lately.


What complete bullshit. MC is still far better than any of those.

MC won 2 games to clinch the win in GSTL this week.


Some people have begin to doubt MC as the Protoss President, even himself said that in an interview. However after the GSTL win he said that he is more confidient now then ever and the so many losses recently has been most of all sniping tactics on him early game.

However, I have no doubt that he is the best protoss in the world. So I agree with you.


I agree he has been slumping somewhat - for his standards at least, but there is noone else in Protoss that comes close to his consistency or level of play when MC is at his best - e.g. vs SeleCT at IEM recently.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 27 2011 09:21 GMT
#9867
Oh snap, Kiwikaki 2-1 Sheth? Damnit, at first that match was reported the other way around. No matter, Sheth's doing well, gogo.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
qujam
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
August 27 2011 09:30 GMT
#9868
Anyone know where to find the vods for the matches yesterday, went to bed at 3am Uk time and really want to see naniwa vs huk before i get it spoilered
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
August 27 2011 09:32 GMT
#9869
On August 27 2011 18:30 qujam wrote:
Anyone know where to find the vods for the matches yesterday, went to bed at 3am Uk time and really want to see naniwa vs huk before i get it spoilered

Just watch the rebroadcast and skip to the time you wanna watch.
Some vods are categorized (VOD button on bottom right in the player)
qujam
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
August 27 2011 09:52 GMT
#9870
Thanks :D
Ninjin
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany230 Posts
August 27 2011 09:53 GMT
#9871
So I want to watch the restream of the first match Idra vs. Bomber.
But on both stream it switches suddenly to Call of Duty and after that they show the second game of Idra vs. Bomber.

Do you guys have the same problem?
Don't get a girlfriend unless you have to. You will be much happier with a Goldfish and a high speed internet connection.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 27 2011 09:58 GMT
#9872
Wow! So just woke up and I see that Sjow won 2 - 0 vs IdrA and took a game off Bomber! Gogo Sjow!
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 10:02:04
August 27 2011 10:00 GMT
#9873
On August 27 2011 18:53 Ninjin wrote:
So I want to watch the restream of the first match Idra vs. Bomber.
But on both stream it switches suddenly to Call of Duty and after that they show the second game of Idra vs. Bomber.

Do you guys have the same problem?


that happened live they switched cod and sc2 stream for abit if there is a recording of cod stream u can prolly find first game there although its really short not very fun, and as it ends it switched back to sc2 stream from cod.
Ninjin
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 10:03:25
August 27 2011 10:03 GMT
#9874
ah ok, thanks for the answer.
I skip this, because I already got spoilered and know the result because I didn't know it was the second game until it ended :D
Don't get a girlfriend unless you have to. You will be much happier with a Goldfish and a high speed internet connection.
Optimist
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia161 Posts
August 27 2011 10:07 GMT
#9875
I might just be an idiot, but maybe someone can help me with this. I have a silver pass and I'm trying to watch some vods, but it asks me for a voucher code which I can't find anywhere on my account. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
I don't always write a quote, but when I do, it's always this one.
Klaas
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
August 27 2011 10:13 GMT
#9876
On August 27 2011 19:07 Optimist wrote:
I might just be an idiot, but maybe someone can help me with this. I have a silver pass and I'm trying to watch some vods, but it asks me for a voucher code which I can't find anywhere on my account. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?


Up top, right next to your profile there is a MLG League Membership, click that, scroll down a bit and the voucher code is there.
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
August 27 2011 10:14 GMT
#9877
Hey guys are there any particular recommended games? thx
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 27 2011 10:15 GMT
#9878
On August 27 2011 19:14 EvilSky wrote:
Hey guys are there any particular recommended games? thx

Naniwa vs Rain
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 27 2011 10:15 GMT
#9879
Seeing the performances of the foreigners so far. We can actually have a foreigner in top3 and hopefully the other 2 koreans are code S so we can have another foreigner in code s ><
Hoping for naniwa imo :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Optimist
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia161 Posts
August 27 2011 10:16 GMT
#9880
On August 27 2011 19:13 Klaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 19:07 Optimist wrote:
I might just be an idiot, but maybe someone can help me with this. I have a silver pass and I'm trying to watch some vods, but it asks me for a voucher code which I can't find anywhere on my account. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?


Up top, right next to your profile there is a MLG League Membership, click that, scroll down a bit and the voucher code is there.


I've been look at that page and I'm not seeing anything, there's a header called "MLG League Member Benefits" with nothing under it though, is that where it should be? I only just got the pass/made an account so perhaps I just have to wait a little.
I don't always write a quote, but when I do, it's always this one.
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