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Nehtaro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States112 Posts
August 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#1061
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.

Dota 2 is almost an exact remake of Dota 1 just with newer graphics in a newer engine.
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
August 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#1062
On August 22 2011 00:26 Maghetti wrote:
I need to sleep :/ This delayed finals is killing me.

i think you can better skip a night, if it is a bo5
Are you human?
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1063
i just woke up! actually worked out for me finally in the USA
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1064
WHAT TIMES DOES PUMVA VS MSC FINALS START? thanks
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1065
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.


yeah dota 2 is basically dota 1 with new engine and graphics.
Emma Watson
Profile Joined July 2011
42 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1066
On August 22 2011 00:21 Headnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:19 LoCaD wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:13 aDd3z wrote:
omg 100k viewers on the LoL stream? i didnt know it was that popular! thats so great!!


yeah i dont get the fascination with moba Titles at all, then again as a thread on here explained.

dota lol hon= moba tiltes are better at making their tournaments knows = easier access they have direct access to the stream inside their Game Clients from what ive seen

so basicly you log in to the client and are automaticly directed to a running tournament stream to compare that to SC2 you open you Bnet and instead of news page login info etc you get a running stream of a Tournament.

would be awesome if blizzard could step up to the Game in terms of easier user access for tournament Streams

I think if not for the easy access on TL many sc2 would have way less user numbers.


I don't think blizzard really need to do that though, SC2 has a big thing going for it and that's marketability.

Idra is a name everyone in the community knows, he's marketable to a HUGE degree, put idra in something and people watch, there are tons of other players that pull the same effect just using him as the example.

MOBA games don't have the same player/fan relationship, which SC2 has in it's favour



you are wrong: there are/were plenty of DotA players (like Vigoss, Kuroky, Loda, IceIceIce, Burning, etc.) who are drawing huge audiences
Nehtaro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States112 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1067
On August 22 2011 00:28 TheResidentEvil wrote:
i just woke up! actually worked out for me finally in the USA

you lucky son. I wish I had just woken up instead of being awake for 14 hours
Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1068
How can one bother to watch LoL, it is soooooooo boooooring wtf, the games are sooooooo looooong

User was warned for this post
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1069
On August 22 2011 00:27 Nehtaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.

Dota 2 is almost an exact remake of Dota 1 just with newer graphics in a newer engine.

Why is it called Dota 2? It's remake not a sequel >.>
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1070
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.


it's exactly the same yes.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1071
On August 22 2011 00:26 Schelim wrote:
anyone knowledgable about LoL care to tell me how high the skill level on these guys is? it looks pretty easy and i remember playing a few games of dota back in my wc3 time and getting bored quickly after owning random people, but i won't act like i really know what exactly is going on in these casts.

so, how good are they?


Yeah I don't know either they seem to be just a moving all the units at the enemy. Is this one of those game where you only control 1 char?
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1072
LoL is fun to play but it just isn't suited for spectating imo :/.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1751 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1073
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


the teams that are competing in dota2 league are the proteams from dota 1.

u might take it as SK T1 vs KT Rolsters for SC2 Alpha match.
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1074
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

if by 1 week you mean several months and before that several years of what is basically the same game.
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
August 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#1075
On August 22 2011 00:23 CutthroatCollapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:21 onedayclose wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:05 Jinivus wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:04 LoCaD wrote:
On August 21 2011 23:59 Deshkar wrote:
So let me get this straight, LoL's finals are at 1-1 now and are going to play their final game. SC II Grand Finals will occur right afteR?


Correct good Sir

and Lol didnt push SC2 back SC2 was scheduled for 5.30 pm from the Start on the official TL IEM Page note the LR Thread .-were-. wrong so everything is as planned it they can finish in 30min.

This is wrongggg mr bitter and rotterdam themselves said sc2 was pushed back because of LoL. seriously.


HA! I was right all along. Germany is one hour later than CEST!!!


nope its not. Germany is CEST

but: it's true that the final was initially scheduled for 16:30 CEST

And Im not just sure about that, Im HIV positive


Germany is CEST YES plz believe the Posters who are from Germany.
As for the Timeschedule I am not sure but I was going with the official TL IEM from the Start and everything is on schedule should lol finish in about 2min xd
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
CutthroatCollapse
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany309 Posts
August 21 2011 15:29 GMT
#1076
On August 22 2011 00:28 OsC wrote:
WHAT TIMES DOES PUMVA VS MSC FINALS START? thanks


Should start any time soon, after this silly dota or LoL, I dont even know what it is lol and I dont care all that much
I tink, MC so sterong
Nehtaro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States112 Posts
August 21 2011 15:29 GMT
#1077
On August 22 2011 00:28 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:27 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.

Dota 2 is almost an exact remake of Dota 1 just with newer graphics in a newer engine.

Why is it called Dota 2? It's remake not a sequel >.>


I don't think it's good for marketing if you call a game 'dota 1.96' or whatever the latest version would be
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
August 21 2011 15:29 GMT
#1078
It is suppose to start right now actually, but it looks like its going to be delayed by the LOL finals...
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 15:30 GMT
#1079
On August 22 2011 00:29 Nehtaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:28 Jinivus wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:27 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:27 Jinivus wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:25 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:24 Nehtaro wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:23 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 Caesarion wrote:
Puma vs MC or Dota 2 Finals? How to decide???


Players that practice this game over 1 year vs players that practice this game 1 week or so... gues who's gonna deliver better

If that's your reasoning, why did Puma defeat MC at NASL?


i guess hes referring to dota being out for "1 week" which is wrong. these people play dota many more years then anyone sc2

Is Dota 2 exactly the same as Dota 1? otherwise you could say these players played starcraft many years before dota.

Dota 2 is almost an exact remake of Dota 1 just with newer graphics in a newer engine.

Why is it called Dota 2? It's remake not a sequel >.>


I don't think it's good for marketing if you call a game 'dota 1.96' or whatever the latest version would be

False advertising IMO :D(half kidding)
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
August 21 2011 15:30 GMT
#1080
On August 22 2011 00:28 Emma Watson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 00:21 Headnoob wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:19 LoCaD wrote:
On August 22 2011 00:13 aDd3z wrote:
omg 100k viewers on the LoL stream? i didnt know it was that popular! thats so great!!


yeah i dont get the fascination with moba Titles at all, then again as a thread on here explained.

dota lol hon= moba tiltes are better at making their tournaments knows = easier access they have direct access to the stream inside their Game Clients from what ive seen

so basicly you log in to the client and are automaticly directed to a running tournament stream to compare that to SC2 you open you Bnet and instead of news page login info etc you get a running stream of a Tournament.

would be awesome if blizzard could step up to the Game in terms of easier user access for tournament Streams

I think if not for the easy access on TL many sc2 would have way less user numbers.


I don't think blizzard really need to do that though, SC2 has a big thing going for it and that's marketability.

Idra is a name everyone in the community knows, he's marketable to a HUGE degree, put idra in something and people watch, there are tons of other players that pull the same effect just using him as the example.

MOBA games don't have the same player/fan relationship, which SC2 has in it's favour



you are wrong: there are/were plenty of DotA players (like Vigoss, Kuroky, Loda, IceIceIce, Burning, etc.) who are drawing huge audiences


Dont forget good ol' Loda <3, damn that guy was a fucking monster
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