• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:16
CET 13:16
KST 21:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win1Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Authentic love Spells ➾ (201) 628-3680 Houston, TX (201) 628-3680 Love Spell Caster Milton, MA Bring back your lost lover Australia+27734009912
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1761 users

[IEM] Gamescom - Day 5 - Page 163

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 161 162 163 164 165 285 Next
Please keep the following things out of this topic:

-Caster/Stream/player bashing;
-Imbalance/race whine;
-LoL vs the world arguments;
-'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments;
-any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments.

Enjoy this free multiday/multigame event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games!

Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne

[special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.]
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3241
1-1-1, pretty damn strong.. Don't know why MC don't attack the marine train all the way from the terrans base though? He, if any protoss, should be able to do it?
If you can chill.. Chill!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3242
On August 22 2011 01:57 Cuh wrote:
this bo5?


yes.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3243
On August 22 2011 01:55 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:54 Brotatolol wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:53 Maghetti wrote:
SlayerSAlicia 양준식
111 imba
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

The Chosen One has spoken.

The protoss that constantly does voidray allins and dt rushes has spoken.


Allins are OK. Imbalanced allins are not. DT rush and VR allin can be easily stopped with proper scouting. You could have a maphack and do the best possible counterbuild and 1-1-1 is still incredibly hard to stop.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3244
On August 22 2011 01:57 fritos wrote:
Does Anyone find weird that the players are not in the booth??????

They can hear the audience YELLING AND SCREAMING when someone is about to go all in?!!

its a german crowd so dont worry :D
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3245
On August 22 2011 01:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:53 Dariusz wrote:
MC simply made too much probes


No kidding. He should have one base all ined too. That would be great. People should only expand if the terran agrees to expand as well.


I don't think you play Protoss or understand it. You can't hold off 1-1-1 as Protoss on one base.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Causality~
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway150 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3246
Mc with artosis pylon :O
Jaedong <3
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3247
On August 22 2011 01:49 Demonaz wrote:
haha that was sick, have the feeling MC should not have re-expanded after the first push. Should have sensed another all-in coming. Also some collossus would have been nice!


Hahahahahahahah, how is a 1 base protoss with an excess of probes and gates gonna hold another off another all-in? God...
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3248
anyone remember who said about 1-1-1 all-in for the protoss player to hold he has to play the situation perfectly and the terran has to make a mistake?

2nd engagement wasnt perfect from mc so he lost
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
August 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#3249
On August 22 2011 01:54 Otori wrote:
Butthurt protosses whining about 1base terran all over this thread. You do realize puma is a good terran and can pull off all ins as well as straight up games right? It's not like he's a random noob who lucked out with a 1base allin. It's pure skill, even those 1base strats

If 1-1-1 was unstoppable it would been used every single game in a tvp, but it's not unstoppable, it's a risk.



amen.
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3250
On August 22 2011 01:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
As sad as I am that Puma won that game, I can't help but feel it was good for the future that he did.
I pretty much never blame inbalance, but 1/1/1 I've found pretty damn imba from the start. This game was probably the best example yet of it. Hopefully Blizzard will pay attention now, this really needs to be nerfed.


You can't nerf 1-1-1 without making Terran helplessly bad.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3251
On August 22 2011 01:57 TheResidentEvil wrote:
i am protoss and i wont complain but enjoy it while it lasts. nerf bat is coming for T


lol this as been said for 1 year now. haha this game is pretty balanced imo
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3252
On August 22 2011 01:57 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:56 Badfatpanda wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:55 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:53 Alpino wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:51 Tegin wrote:
1/1/1 pretty OP. Shouldn't be able to transition into a second wave even more powerful as the first and win like that. Oh well..GG. You got him in game 2 MC!


Why not? He did a lot of damage with the first attack, he has mules. You are lacking understanding of the game ,there is a reason that when an all-in fail the next step is all-in again. I'm not defending the use of this build, but I'd do it if I'm playing MC on xel'naga.

Puma was 30 supply behind, just saying.


25 of it was probes, just saying.


Yeps, and luck for terrans, they dont need SCV to win.

Yeps, and luck for protoss, they only need gateways to win.
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3253
On August 22 2011 01:57 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:56 raga4ka wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:54 Cuh wrote:
but wait doesnt Puma beat the shit outta flash in BW?

God is invincible no one has beaten him , pros just take games from him from time to time .

Nobody can have 100% winratio, not even The Ultimate Weapon. Don't make hasty conclusions from that.


Why can someone not have 100% winrate?
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3254
On August 22 2011 01:57 Ashworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:56 ZapRoffo wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:55 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:53 Alpino wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:51 Tegin wrote:
1/1/1 pretty OP. Shouldn't be able to transition into a second wave even more powerful as the first and win like that. Oh well..GG. You got him in game 2 MC!


Why not? He did a lot of damage with the first attack, he has mules. You are lacking understanding of the game ,there is a reason that when an all-in fail the next step is all-in again. I'm not defending the use of this build, but I'd do it if I'm playing MC on xel'naga.

Puma was 30 supply behind, just saying.

More like 25 and 20 of it was the worker difference.



So mules make 25 supply worth of probes off 1 cc.

Nice to know.


MC sacced the nexus so he was oversaturated on 1 base...but you can't argue with someone claiming imbalance, my bad.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3255
On August 22 2011 01:55 najreteip wrote:
SlayerSAlicia 양준식
111 imba
4 minutes ago

Koreans are watching :D

or he just got 111ed over and over again on the ladder!
There can be only none
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3256
On August 22 2011 01:57 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:56 MoonBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:56 MoonBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:55 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: Terminus RE
oGs.MC 0 vs 1 EG.(T)PuMa

(T)PuMa spawns as Blue Terran @6
(P)MC spawns as Red (T)Protoss @12

4:00
CyberCore for MC, Puma opening with very similar build to Game 1 but with a fast CC.

5:10
Puma makes 2 more raxes. Nexus for MC at nat.

6:10
4 gate and Robo for MC. That's a lot.

7:00
Stim and Combat Shield both being researched. Marauders being made too.

8:00
Marines being churned out. MC taking gas at nat. More Facts for Puma. Conc Shells on the way.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3257
On August 22 2011 01:57 Binabik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:56 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:55 Razuik wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:52 TooN wrote:
whats the success rate for 1-1-1 in competitive play?

What is the success rate for 6gate in competitive play? Look at MC's GSL wins. People seem to forget as long as they can shit on terran.


6gate got nerfed

it didnt
only 4gate got nerfed

How in the hell the warp gate nerf made the 6 gate weaker?
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3258
lol gotta subscribe for higher than 360p?
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3259
On August 22 2011 01:56 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:55 Razuik wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:52 TooN wrote:
whats the success rate for 1-1-1 in competitive play?

What is the success rate for 6gate in competitive play? Look at MC's GSL wins. People seem to forget as long as they can shit on terran.


Okay let's quote 5+ month old builds

And who knows, 1/1/1 maybe be obsolete soon because people will finally learn how to stop it instead of complaining. I'm referencing 5 months ago because people didn't talk ANY shit about MC's all-in behavior when he was winning GSLs.
Gantzie
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia245 Posts
August 21 2011 16:58 GMT
#3260
the artosis pylon 4 gates 1 robo 1 core
Dunked
Prev 1 161 162 163 164 165 285 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
Clem vs TriGGeRLIVE!
Maru vs Creator
ComeBackTV 1054
WardiTV828
RotterdaM586
IndyStarCraft 230
BRAT_OK 167
Rex153
3DClanTV 68
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 586
IndyStarCraft 230
BRAT_OK 167
Rex 153
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4986
Rain 3835
Flash 2489
GuemChi 1821
Hyuk 928
Horang2 781
Jaedong 609
Snow 460
Soma 460
Stork 371
[ Show more ]
BeSt 334
Larva 325
Light 255
Mini 236
Hyun 215
ZerO 208
hero 181
Mong 143
EffOrt 136
ggaemo 116
Rush 86
JulyZerg 78
Noble 51
Shuttle 50
Sea.KH 47
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
soO 39
Backho 35
Hm[arnc] 35
Free 31
ToSsGirL 27
Bale 24
Sacsri 21
GoRush 20
SilentControl 14
Terrorterran 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4861
Fuzer 175
XcaliburYe145
Pyrionflax133
NeuroSwarm91
Counter-Strike
zeus1190
x6flipin648
allub168
Other Games
singsing1933
Liquid`RaSZi1160
B2W.Neo1087
olofmeister868
Sick304
crisheroes303
Mew2King125
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1538
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota247
League of Legends
• Nemesis6611
• Lourlo901
• Stunt470
• TFBlade293
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 44m
PiGosaur Cup
12h 44m
Replay Cast
20h 44m
RongYI Cup
22h 44m
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 20h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.