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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
August 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#2641
On August 08 2011 19:28 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:27 Beyonder wrote:
I doubt there's goign to be a 111 on this map though? Its so big?

That's what she said.


We know where your priorities lie.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
August 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#2642
On August 08 2011 19:26 HolyArrow wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:24 Ocedic wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:21 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:18 Ocedic wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:15 dani` wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:15 Ocedic wrote:
What's with so much whining from Protoss in this thread? If the strategy was uncounterable then it would be used every game of every match at the highest levels.

Are you saying it is not? In every bo3 TvP it's used at least once by the Terran and it's a win :D


Did you read what I said? Remember back when 5 rax reaper was viable (pre reaper nerf)? It was used virtually EVERY game. If the strategy WAS uncounterable it would be used EVERY game.

It's not, so you're wrong. Stop whining and get better.


Some maps aren't good to 1-1-1 on. Your logic is stupid. You're basically saying, "It's not used in 100% of the games, therefore, it's not uncounterable, l2p". For one thing, most people here don't think it's uncounterable, but just that the skill and effort that takes to counter it far outstrips the skill and effort needed to execute it. And it IS used very, very often, with a very high winrate. Maybe you should go tell Puzzle and SangHo to stop whining and get better since I also saw them complaining about it, and they're not even known for QQ.


Maybe they should stop QQ? There are numerous examples throughout BROOD WAR history where matchups were considered much one sided, then someone (Boxer, Bisu, JulyZerg, Savior, etc) came along and shook up the entire matchup with something new.

But no, modern gamers can't be bothered with that. Let's just cry for nerfs every time a strategy is 'too hard' to counter.


Okay, so basically, you're calling upon historical precedent of a different, arguably better-designed game to justify telling pros to shut up and learn to play. You realize that 1-1-1 has been around for a year, right? It's not a hot new strategy that's taking people by surprise. People have had plenty of time to figure out good counters.

In court precedent is more important than testimony, Also no Pro`s spend their time crapping up the LR thread for the rest of us who want to enjoy ourselves.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#2643
On August 08 2011 19:27 Caphe wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
does 1-1-1 work on Daybreak?

Just happen on this map in the earlier group. and yeah they worked very well on DayBreak :D

There was no TvP on this map in the earlier group. The only TvP on it so far was sC vs NEXtreme
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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#2644
On August 08 2011 19:27 sleepingdog wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:26 Beyonder wrote:
I bet the protoss is gonna cheese this game, any takers? :D


I'll go with 111 vs protoss standard game.


seconded
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2645
On August 08 2011 19:27 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
does 1-1-1 work on Daybreak?

Just happen on this map in the earlier group. and yeah they worked very well on DayBreak :D

Daybreak was a macro game, the 111 was on dual sight.
Orpheusz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia210 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2646
On August 08 2011 19:26 gogatorsfoster wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:17 Caesarion wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:16 Chezus wrote:
I expect a discussion thread on the protoss counter to the 1-1-1 all-in today. We need to theorycraft. And quick before this build starts to get too popular on ladder.


Actually..

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250379&currentpage=All



If you havent read this thread in depth, I implore you to turn off this cast, close this LR thread, and learn how your supposed to do it, rather than complaining. What does complaining get you?


I've read that thread and it's almost identical to what tails did in game 1 (he built like 4 too many probes but taeja engaged horribly anyway) and still got rolled, it will probably work a decent amount on ladder but it's far from a true fix. If an allin is scouted it should be able to easily held off, that's the main issue.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2647
On August 08 2011 19:27 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
does 1-1-1 work on Daybreak?

Just happen on this map in the earlier group. and yeah they worked very well on DayBreak :D


What? Noone did 1-1-1 on Daybreak...
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2648
Tails for the love of god smash this build and show me the way
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2649
On August 08 2011 19:28 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:27 Beyonder wrote:
I doubt there's goign to be a 111 on this map though? Its so big?

That's what she said.



She actually did hahahha

Oh too much information sorry.
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HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2650
gogo gate-stargate
No carpal tunnel no skill
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2651
On August 08 2011 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:27 Caphe wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
does 1-1-1 work on Daybreak?

Just happen on this map in the earlier group. and yeah they worked very well on DayBreak :D

There was no TvP on this map in the earlier group. The only TvP on it so far was sC vs NEXtreme

yep, sorry my bad .
Terran
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2652
On August 08 2011 19:28 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Taeja

While in the top right is Tails



2:30

Barracks / gateway finishing

No gas for taeja
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2653
On August 08 2011 19:28 OrchidThief wrote:
Not really surprising that terrans do this many early game allins when you can so easily get rolled by almost any lategame protoss tech. Be it Archons, HT's or Colossus.

Oh please, Protoss isn't unstoppable late game c'mon. Good EMP's will wreck a protoss army.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2654
On August 08 2011 19:29 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:28 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Taeja

While in the top right is Tails



2:30

Barracks / gateway finishing

No gas for taeja


3:10

Core on the way for Tails now
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2655
On August 08 2011 19:28 OrchidThief wrote:
Not really surprising that terrans do this many early game allins when you can so easily get rolled by almost any lategame protoss tech. Be it Archons, HT's or Colossus.


sure, protoss midgame is sooo strong pvt, thank you
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 10:30:05
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2656
How have the games on Daybreak been so far btw? It looks like a fun map.

Thank god for no 1-1-1 from Taeja (is sneakily watching)
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
August 08 2011 10:29 GMT
#2657
Just interested, wouldn't a 3gate blink stalker rush crush the 1-1-1 build as there is only a bunker and you just skip it???
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#2658
Command center! No 1-1-1
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#2659
He builds a CC. Thank you dear gods of sc2...
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#2660
oh, no 1-1-1 thank god
Terran
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