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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2541
has anyone attempted opening robo and citadel simultaneously after the FE once the bunker and reactor have been scouted? seems like you could delay until charge and potentially also get high templar to feedback the banshees (if they don't get cloak there should be several that will get instanecksnapped by feedback)
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2542
I want to see DRG...NOW!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2543
On August 08 2011 19:20 Drazerk wrote:
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2:00

Barracks / gateway on the way as both players take their gas


3:00

Core on the way for Tails


3:40

Warp gate on the way for tails

Taeja is getting a reactor and a second barracks


5:00

Expansion on the way for tails with two more gateways

Taeja is getting concussive shells


5:40

Failed bunker rush from Taeja


7:30

Nexus on 130 hp...

Stim and an expansion for taeja


9:10

Twilight council and forge for tails

Taeja is getting a starpot


10:30

Charge on the way for tails


11:45

Double drop for taeja


12:50

armour and robo on the way for tails

Ghost academy for taeja


14:40

Feedback on a dropship kills it instantly
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 10:22:43
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2544
I love reading the LR thread and seeing the majority of people complain about the 1/1/1 then theres the very few ignorant and cynical individuals who can only tell you to l2p, keep it coming, you're the scum of TL, at least contribute.

*cough* Ocedic
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2545
TaeJa should have this for sure, if he plays safe from here and keep up on upgrades he will be set for the late midgame.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2546
Get drop spotted. Still go for it and obviously lose the dropship. Damn Taeja plays bad this game...
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2547
On August 08 2011 19:19 HQuality wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:15 ogawdlulz wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:13 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
I am a zerg player and I am really glad to see protoss players whine about all-ins which are so hard to scout.
Protosses have like 50 great all-in builds which are almost impossible to scout when executed well so I just cannot feel sorry for protoss at all

This is definitely not about scouting. I can tell it's coming like 5 min into the game because I'm not a full retard and I do everything to counter it and still lose.

it's just there's huge amount of pushes in sc2, and they are reaaally strong, even dimaga says it
that's why in scbw u see 14cc's every second game, and in sc2 u better do mass bfh or 1-1-1 out of one base cause it's more effective here :/ hope HotS can change it


BW also has flash. Flash litterally spent a year of losing to figure out how to find every situation to 14 CC
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2548
On August 08 2011 19:18 Ocedic wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:15 Ocedic wrote:
What's with so much whining from Protoss in this thread? If the strategy was uncounterable then it would be used every game of every match at the highest levels.

Are you saying it is not? In every bo3 TvP it's used at least once by the Terran and it's a win :D


Did you read what I said? Remember back when 5 rax reaper was viable (pre reaper nerf)? It was used virtually EVERY game. If the strategy WAS uncounterable it would be used EVERY game.

It's not, so you're wrong. Stop whining and get better.


Some maps aren't good to 1-1-1 on. Your logic is stupid. You're basically saying, "It's not used in 100% of the games, therefore, it's not uncounterable, l2p". For one thing, most people here don't think it's uncounterable, but just that the skill and effort that takes to counter it far outstrips the skill and effort needed to execute it. And it IS used very, very often, with a very high winrate. Maybe you should go tell Puzzle and SangHo to stop whining and get better since I also saw them complaining about it, and they're not even known for QQ.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2549
On August 08 2011 19:16 Asha` wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:11 Asha` wrote:
Reading the LR because I can't watch for the first time in forever and all I see is 111111111111111111111111

xD

The worst thing about this build is that it's so reliable it's stifling Terran development in the match up

It's not our fault that it's either this or go bio for the entire game. If only biomech/mech compositions were more viable in the late game...


I'm just worried that when this build either finally gets nerfed or gets figured out (one way or another it'll be sorted eventually) that Terrans will find themselves struggling again vs Toss in mid and late game scenarios because of how easy leaning on this build can make your prep

I want more ideas for playing vs Toss in lategame so i don't die to a blaze of aoe =p

---

I really don't want Taeja to win, he's one of my least favourite Terrans ><

I agree. I would be very surprised though, if top terrans haven't already experimented with going mech, or incorporating it in the mid/late game. If Blizzard wants to nerf this all-in, they have to give us more options than going MMM+viking+ghost all game. I was hoping thorzain was on to something with his mass thor build, but Blizzard shut that down so quick, it makes me think they actually want terran to go bio all game.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2550
At least there's some variety in the race that's crying thse days. Zergs have been doing it for ages now, now someone else is taking the baton.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#2551
On August 08 2011 19:21 Drazerk wrote:
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[quote]

3:00

Core on the way for Tails


3:40

Warp gate on the way for tails

Taeja is getting a reactor and a second barracks


5:00

Expansion on the way for tails with two more gateways

Taeja is getting concussive shells


5:40

Failed bunker rush from Taeja


7:30

Nexus on 130 hp...

Stim and an expansion for taeja


9:10

Twilight council and forge for tails

Taeja is getting a starpot


10:30

Charge on the way for tails


11:45

Double drop for taeja


12:50

armour and robo on the way for tails

Ghost academy for taeja


14:40

Feedback on a dropship kills it instantly


15:40

Drop at the third of tails
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2011 10:22 GMT
#2552
On August 08 2011 19:20 woob wrote:
protoss not so happy on the recieving end of a powerful all-in


Terrans and Zerg hate watching it just as much.
twitch.tv/medrea
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#2553
Wolf and Doa make a pretty good combo.
Worried about moletrap wolf, think it might be really awkward..
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
August 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#2554
On August 08 2011 19:20 Dfgj wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:18 Scribble wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:16 Dfgj wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:15 Scribble wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:09 bittman wrote:
Hmm...yeah ok even after reading like 30 pages of discussions about how Protoss can hold it, the skill in holding it is far superior to the skill required to executing that.

To me, that's the definition of something that might need to be rebalanced.


It's much easier to 6 pool than to hold a 6 pool. Nerf 6-pool?

Remember a few months ago when the Zerg tears were flowing about how impossible ZvP felt, and what the response was? "Figure it out."

And that is always the correct response. Figure it out. Don't hope for balance changes, look for solutions. It's way too early to call this imba.

A build used since Beta with a hilarious winrate is too early?


It's been around since beta, and yet protoss have had success since then. It's only been since recently that it exploded to the point where everybody is using it TvP. If it hasn't been used frequently up until very recently, then it doesn't matter how long it's been around because only now is it becoming a real problem for toss.

The frequency is what's changed. This sort of attack has been winning games for ages, and no total solution has been found, which is ridiculous for a blind all-in that can be scouted long before it hits.


The point I was trying to make is that because it wasn't used frequently before there was less exposure to it, and less effort went into solving that problem. No sense practicing your ass off to solve one specific build that isn't even very widely used, is there? Quite different from putting a lot of effort into something that is now so popular that you can reliably expect to see.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#2555
disgusting to watch
wat
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
August 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#2556
Bad engagements. You need a mass you idiot. You have this.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#2557
Storm not researched?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#2558
On August 08 2011 19:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:21 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:20 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:19 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:18 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:17 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:16 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:15 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:14 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:13 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

3:40

Warp gate on the way for tails

Taeja is getting a reactor and a second barracks


5:00

Expansion on the way for tails with two more gateways

Taeja is getting concussive shells


5:40

Failed bunker rush from Taeja


7:30

Nexus on 130 hp...

Stim and an expansion for taeja


9:10

Twilight council and forge for tails

Taeja is getting a starpot


10:30

Charge on the way for tails


11:45

Double drop for taeja


12:50

armour and robo on the way for tails

Ghost academy for taeja


14:40

Feedback on a dropship kills it instantly


15:40

Drop at the third of tails


16:10

Fourth going up for tails

Taeja looking to engage the army of tails
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
August 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#2559
MC will be in up and down tomorrow cause of 1-1-1. Haha
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#2560
Gah watch Tails win in a straight up game now and lose to another 1/1/1 next game
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