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On August 07 2011 20:30 Jochan wrote:
Terrans really need to do something else than pure bio, Toss ball with collosus, storm and chargelots, immortals and blink stalkers is so good. Bio will melt.
Tarson would have won if he would activate cloaking and just EMP 6 out of the 9 templars...
There was only 1 colossus and Tarson lost 70% of his army to storm.
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Zealot/Archon is so difficult to deal with. I switched from Protoss to Terran last week and I was going Zealot/Archon in all my PvT. You really need something like Thor/Hellion to deal with it, bio isn't the way to go.
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Tarson had personal cloaking against no obs, goes with all his army and eats Feedbacks and Storms like mad. That's bad play period.
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Couple bad engagements from Tarson lost it. You really gotta be in a perfect spread position with good EMPs to win that type of late game battle. Nice patience by Nani though.
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I'm a Z player myself so i wouldnt really know, but wouldnt it help to add blue flame hellions to the bio army lategame to deal with the mass chargelots?
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vikings and ghost deal with it fairly well, but if the protoss has better micro you just lose...
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Terrans ignoring factory entirely for TvP is a flawed build that will eventually be just a memory. protoss is using everything in their arsenal and terran cannot compete with just a bioball. I dont think the game was designed that way.
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On August 07 2011 20:29 Lsan wrote:nerf storms ! 
lol, HT had already been nerfed with the amulet you know?
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On August 07 2011 20:30 Jochan wrote:
Terrans really need to do something else than pure bio, Toss ball with collosus, storm and chargelots, immortals and blink stalkers is so good. Bio will melt.
It's called Marine/Tank/Banshee all-in, no toss ball to deal with.
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On August 07 2011 20:31 Xaeldaren wrote:
Zealot/Archon is so difficult to deal with. I switched from Protoss to Terran last week and I was going Zealot/Archon in all my PvT. You really need something like Thor/Hellion to deal with it, bio isn't the way to go.
Or you need to have 100% perfect emps like Puma did in NASL vs MC
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On August 07 2011 20:29 PeggyHill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 20:28 Logros wrote:On August 07 2011 20:25 PeggyHill wrote:
Never understood why protosses don't really storm drop in SC2, it's not that relevant to this game particularly but still.
Argh why didn't he storm the mineral line there! You were saying?  You have to be careful though because the range isn't that big and if the bio ball is kiting you have a big chance you just storm your own army for most of the damage. that wasnt a storm drop 
Nevermind I only just woke up and just read storm . But why no storm drops? It's hella expensive and warp prisms die when you look at them, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen more in the future late late game. I remember MC used them pretty well in the first GSL he won.
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Heh, I was just sitting next to a girl who kept explaining what was happening during the game to her male friend  . Take that, stereotypes.
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Naniwa definitely isn't at the level of koreans. He seems to be a player who just makes a lot of timing pushes that only works when the terran player makes some sort of mistakes.
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Wow TSL3 finals rematch for Blizzcon spot incoming!
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so if naniwa wins against tarson he is guaranteed to go to blizzcon?
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On August 07 2011 20:30 Jochan wrote:
Terrans really need to do something else than pure bio, Toss ball with collosus, storm and chargelots, immortals and blink stalkers is so good. Bio will melt.
Not necessarily, TvP has been extremely balanced in the late game with bio(early game both races have their extremely power full all-ins). Both players know what their options are and the rest is army control and mind games.
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i want to see nani v thorzain!
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Just woke up:
1) What did NaNiwa say about sound?
2) What happened between Ret and TZ?
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So glad to see nANi come out on top.... he is sooo smart with his plays... if his mechanics get crazy in korea i think he can really be a major player with the koreans.... but first we need to go to blizzcon gogogog nani!
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On August 07 2011 20:32 Zaclye wrote:
so if naniwa wins against tarson he is guaranteed to go to blizzcon?
He had to get through thorzain.
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