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On August 08 2011 01:56 dmans wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 Tobon wrote:On August 08 2011 01:44 Morale wrote: Man tbh Ret is by far the best non korean zerg. Sen. And dimaga. And IdrA Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha Lol, amusing how wrong you can be. well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though He was TOP foreigner at Columbus naniwa and huk? Anaheim.
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poor naniwa after he failed to become the bonjwa of tsl3 he got 2nd place in hsc and this too... huk and thorzain managed to become bonjwas so nani deserves some bonjwaness too. maybe make a bonjwa-cup where the top 3 are all bonjwas? gold, silver and bronze bonjwa.
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On August 08 2011 01:56 TheKK wrote:It fits perfectly O.O Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:54 Rustug wrote:"Ret the sunshine in!" That is what I heard at first, but then I thought: this makes no sense.  LOL You're not alone.
Yea my country is pretty famous of trolling:D
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On August 08 2011 01:55 Latty wrote: lol rets stealing my build on shakuras ! FE = third base immediately. works every time. doesnt work as good on other maps for me. and game 1 was a brilliant drop and naniwa was so close to scout it with the pheonix. he saw that it wouldve changed the game completely Try the 5-hatch on Tal'darim from the first Ret vs Nani, i'm guessing it'll do even better on ladder against the non-pro's.
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On August 08 2011 01:55 frozenrb wrote:Poland - ![[image loading]](http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1145/1278259756bymatt2106500.jpg)
And the ruler of all trolls there must be Carmac! o.O
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On August 08 2011 01:48 Mawi wrote: Just woke up hopefully its not over :S Same with Naniwa. Apparently he tried to blink... and by the time his eyes opened Ret had made +50 drones
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On August 08 2011 01:54 disco wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:53 quiet noise wrote:On August 08 2011 01:51 JimmiC wrote: Ret dominated completely, games weren't even close dude, if naniwa would have moved his phoenix slightly more thowards the left in this first game, he would have discovered the drop and the game would have been completley different. Game 1 was probably the closest PvZ on cross position metalopolis i have seen in a long time. That wouldn't really have changed anything, he would have had like 5 more seconds to prepare but he would have still lost both of his nexus. I do think that if Naniwa had pushed in straight away with his attack that he could have possible done some magic.
so you are basicly saying Zergling drops =instant win in ZvP because even if discovered, protoss cant stop/prevent it?
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On August 08 2011 01:55 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:52 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 01:50 Telcontar wrote:On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 Tobon wrote:On August 08 2011 01:44 Morale wrote: Man tbh Ret is by far the best non korean zerg. Sen. And dimaga. And IdrA Not by recent showing, but do we have to bring IdrA up every time a zerg player wins? Come on. I don't think it's too offensive to bring up IdrA. Speaking of foreign Zergs in recent major tournaments, IdrA was the highest placing foreign Zerg at MLG Anaheim. You know things aren't working out well for someone when you start listing "highest placing X of all Y of the nationality Z in this one tournament" as an accomplishment but he actually wasn't even in top 10 of that tournament. Ret is at this very moment the best non-Korean Zerg. He would be that based on yesterday's games alone, even if he lost to Thorzain today. The level at which he plays the game is so much higher than other foreign Zergs at this moment. Nobody ever dominated Nani and Thorzain like this since their rise to the top. Nobody. well dimaga just won assembly, wich had a sick competition so i think dimaga and ret are there
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On August 08 2011 01:50 grobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:49 RykuX wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 disco wrote: Nice excuses Naniwa, lol. ?? im confused what are you talking about?? He's a dumbass that can't tell the difference between blaming himself for his flaws and excuses.
If this guy doesn't get a ban I have no faith in TL mods.
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On August 08 2011 01:56 ForTheDr3am wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:55 kunstderfugue wrote: What does a bw protoss do against a super fast thirs when he ffes? maybe we can adapt it to sc2 At they moment, they usually lose to Z in bw, that's what happens =p
And maps like Pathfinder don't exactly help either...
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On August 08 2011 01:55 kunstderfugue wrote: What does a bw protoss do against a super fast thirs when he ffes? maybe we can adapt it to sc2
Be Bisu or lose. 
You don't even want to know how gruelingly hard PvZ always was in BW.
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On August 08 2011 01:51 PDizzle wrote: damn polish crowd is so sick anaheim take note... (or whatever crowd it was at last MLG, not cheering for MVP :<)
You were not there rofl. It was very loud but the convention center is huge. There were no walls near the stage for the sound to bounce off of. This is a common misconception for stream viewers.
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Wow I don't understand how Ret had so many units :O I don't know what naniwa could have done though without being behind economically for the rest of the game
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On August 08 2011 01:57 msjakofsky wrote: poor naniwa after he failed to become the bonjwa of tsl3 he got 2nd place in hsc and this too... huk and thorzain managed to become bonjwas so nani deserves some bonjwaness too. maybe make a bonjwa-cup where the top 3 are all bonjwas? gold, silver and bronze bonjwa. dont think you understand the meaning of bonjwa
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I'm feeling bad for naniwa... it was very obvious how uncomfortable he felt when he had to be on the stage directly losing and being asked questions about the game. I can understand if people want to hear the loser's opinion on games too, especially in a finals. But it shouldn't be too hard to ask people beforehand if they're okay with being interviewed directly after a loss or waiting a couple of minutes till you drag the loser onto the stage (so they can calm down).
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On August 08 2011 01:51 Talin wrote:MLG has best crowd? I think not.  this is what I was thinking awesome Polish crowd! although it's probably just room acoustics
On August 08 2011 01:55 frozenrb wrote:Poland - ![[image loading]](http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1145/1278259756bymatt2106500.jpg) oh no you didn't, haha
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On August 08 2011 01:58 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:57 msjakofsky wrote: poor naniwa after he failed to become the bonjwa of tsl3 he got 2nd place in hsc and this too... huk and thorzain managed to become bonjwas so nani deserves some bonjwaness too. maybe make a bonjwa-cup where the top 3 are all bonjwas? gold, silver and bronze bonjwa. dont think you understand the meaning of bonjwa
You sir,just got trolled.Good day.
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On August 08 2011 01:57 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:54 disco wrote:On August 08 2011 01:53 quiet noise wrote:On August 08 2011 01:51 JimmiC wrote: Ret dominated completely, games weren't even close dude, if naniwa would have moved his phoenix slightly more thowards the left in this first game, he would have discovered the drop and the game would have been completley different. Game 1 was probably the closest PvZ on cross position metalopolis i have seen in a long time. That wouldn't really have changed anything, he would have had like 5 more seconds to prepare but he would have still lost both of his nexus. I do think that if Naniwa had pushed in straight away with his attack that he could have possible done some magic. so you are basicly saying Zergling drops =instant win in ZvP because even if discovered, protoss cant stop/prevent it?
No, but the point of the drop wasn't to kill naniwa. It was to draw the army back and snipe the third or kill a lot of probes.
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On August 08 2011 01:55 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 01:48 Tobon wrote:On August 08 2011 01:44 Morale wrote: Man tbh Ret is by far the best non korean zerg. Sen. And dimaga. And IdrA Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha Lol, amusing how wrong you can be. well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though He was TOP foreigner at Columbus thats not winning a tuornamenet and it was a while ago...
So what counts as relevant tournaments now? Tournaments played within the last 2 weeks? Stop acting silly. Idra has had no events to play outside of MLG and 1 other in the past month.
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I am gonna sign out of this LR thread before it turns into a shit-flame whos the best Zerg esp when there is Idra involved in. This will not end well. 
Thank you Blizzard, ESL and Poland for being awesome. I really enjoy this thoroughly. Congrat on the win Ret!!!!
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