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On August 01 2011 01:09 red4ce wrote:
Hell, I'm bored. Making my prediction for the rest of the entire tourney.
Tyler>Cruncher
wbc>socke
Select>White-ra
TLO>incontrol
Haypro>Tyler
moonan>wbc
Select>slush
Sheth>TLO
Haypro>Sjow
Ret>moonan
Kiwikaki>Select
Sheth>Naniwa
Huk>Haypro
Ganzi>Ret
MMA>Kiwikaki
Idra>Sheth
Ganzi>Huk
Idra>MMA
DRG>MVP
Rain>Boxer
Ganzi>Boxer
Idra>MVP
Ganzi>Idra
DRG>Rain
Ganzi>Rain
DRG>Ganzi
Final standings
1. DRG
2. Ganzi
3. Rain
4. Idra
5. MVP
6. Boxer
7. Huk
8. MMA
Agree with alot of this, but I don't think IdrA can take down both MMA/MVP, TvZ they're both really good. I also don't see all the Ganzi upsets happening and think that HuK has a legitimate chance against him and maybe BoxeR as well, putting him 5-6 depending on consolation matches.
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On August 01 2011 01:13 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:11 Kevan wrote:On August 01 2011 01:10 ondik wrote:
would be funny if Rain won and earned code S spot again (and decided to participate in GSL). Artosis would've probably committed suicide. Isn't he like banned from GSL? why would he be?
Because he forfeit his spot. He is now banned for the next two seasons.
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Boxer will win it all!!!!
Well, even if he doesn't, if he can just get a Code S spot I'll be ecstatic 
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On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing.
Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans:
DRG: 10-1
Boxer: 10-2
Rain: 8-2
MMA: 8-1
MVP:8-1
Ganzi: 8-1
Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros.
Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially.
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gogo tlo, check the pylon pls this time
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On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially.
Rain was Code S before he left, I consider Ganzi to be overshadowed cause SlayerS=top Terran team, but yeah it would be worse if MC, Nestea, Losira all came for this one.
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Does MLG ever post VODs for free?
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So hyped for Championship Sunday ! Bring it on !
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On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially.
Why do people think Idra can compete with them? He's been constantly stomped by them in tourneys, especially MC (MC boxer zenio MMA ) etc. What notable korean has he beaten in a recent tourney? Also losing to the other foreigners (Huk, Sen)
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On August 01 2011 01:23 SentrySteve wrote:
Does MLG ever post VODs for free?
cant you just go to the stream, and click vods down the bottom right? thats how it worked last MLG, and i saw the vods tab, though didnt click it. you can do it when stream offline
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Today = BOXER FIGHTING!
If the nearly 31 year old, injury ridden Emperor gets to be on the verge of taking down one of the deepest talent pools ever assembled in one place... it is going to get NUTS around here
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On August 01 2011 01:26 ranjutan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:08 TheSilverfox wrote:I'm cheering so hard for BoxeR to win against Rain and MVP to win against DRG. If that happens - BoxeR have a huge chance of getting a code S spot! He just needs to be a little bit lucky and that HuK or Rain does well in the upcoming matches :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z52EK.jpg) I think only the MLG winner gets code S, even if the 1st place is already code S, the 2nd place will not get it.
Its not the winner, its top 4 if the other 3 are in code s or decline.
On August 01 2011 01:25 L3g3nd_ wrote:cant you just go to the stream, and click vods down the bottom right? thats how it worked last MLG, and i saw the vods tab, though didnt click it. you can do it when stream offline
Assuming you pay for premium pass.
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Shouldn't this have started already? 10:00 AM PDT is 7PM GMT+2 and I see nothing on the stream, did I calculate something wrong?
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On August 01 2011 01:28 obidan wrote:
Shouldn't this have started already? 10:00 AM PDT is 7PM GMT+2 and I see nothing on the stream, did I calculate something wrong?
30 mins left I think.
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@jinivus idra just has a weak zvt, zvp and zvz that's all
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On August 01 2011 01:27 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:26 ranjutan wrote:On August 01 2011 01:08 TheSilverfox wrote:I'm cheering so hard for BoxeR to win against Rain and MVP to win against DRG. If that happens - BoxeR have a huge chance of getting a code S spot! He just needs to be a little bit lucky and that HuK or Rain does well in the upcoming matches :D I think only the MLG winner gets code S, even if the 1st place is already code S, the 2nd place will not get it. Its not the winner, its top 4 if the other 3 are in code s or decline. Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:25 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 01 2011 01:23 SentrySteve wrote:
Does MLG ever post VODs for free? cant you just go to the stream, and click vods down the bottom right? thats how it worked last MLG, and i saw the vods tab, though didnt click it. you can do it when stream offline Assuming you pay for premium pass.
oh, last MLG you didnt need a premuim pass to watch replays
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On August 01 2011 01:28 obidan wrote:
Shouldn't this have started already? 10:00 AM PDT is 7PM GMT+2 and I see nothing on the stream, did I calculate something wrong?
It's 9:30 pst right now 30 mins to go
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EPT
