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On August 01 2011 01:28 obidan wrote:
Shouldn't this have started already? 10:00 AM PDT is 7PM GMT+2 and I see nothing on the stream, did I calculate something wrong?
GMT is 8 hours ahead of Pacific time. 10:00 AM is 6:00 GMT, so it's starting as expected.
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On August 01 2011 01:27 godemperor wrote:
Its not the winner, its top 4 if the other 3 are in code s or decline.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status.
Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.
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On August 01 2011 01:28 obidan wrote:
Shouldn't this have started already? 10:00 AM PDT is 7PM GMT+2 and I see nothing on the stream, did I calculate something wrong?
Check the Calendar on the right of this page when in doubt. MLG is listed in the Upcoming events section.
Also, for getting the time in the US, use: time.gov
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Go Boxer! You're so close to getting the Code S prize :O
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On August 01 2011 01:31 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:27 godemperor wrote:On August 01 2011 01:26 ranjutan wrote:On August 01 2011 01:08 TheSilverfox wrote:I'm cheering so hard for BoxeR to win against Rain and MVP to win against DRG. If that happens - BoxeR have a huge chance of getting a code S spot! He just needs to be a little bit lucky and that HuK or Rain does well in the upcoming matches :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z52EK.jpg) I think only the MLG winner gets code S, even if the 1st place is already code S, the 2nd place will not get it. Its not the winner, its top 4 if the other 3 are in code s or decline. On August 01 2011 01:25 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 01 2011 01:23 SentrySteve wrote:
Does MLG ever post VODs for free? cant you just go to the stream, and click vods down the bottom right? thats how it worked last MLG, and i saw the vods tab, though didnt click it. you can do it when stream offline Assuming you pay for premium pass. oh, last MLG you didnt need a premuim pass to watch replays
That's because they decided to give the entire weekend free hd. at first it was only first day free then whole weekend, not sure how it is right now as I'm actually attending!
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Boxer/Idra/Whitera gogo :D
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On August 01 2011 01:26 KingOfAmerica wrote:
Today = BOXER FIGHTING!
If the nearly 31 year old, injury ridden Emperor gets to be on the verge of taking down one of the deepest talent pools ever assembled in one place... it is going to get NUTS around here
He won't. It's pure cheer-power that's driven him this far. I'm sure it'll run out today.
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*Hopes his curse of always been wrong makes Boxer MLG champ*
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pretty clear that tyler was throwing all his unessential matches yesterday so that when he cruised through 7+ bo3s and a few bo5s, the starcraft world would know he was back
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On August 01 2011 01:35 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:26 KingOfAmerica wrote:
Today = BOXER FIGHTING!
If the nearly 31 year old, injury ridden Emperor gets to be on the verge of taking down one of the deepest talent pools ever assembled in one place... it is going to get NUTS around here He won't. It's pure cheer-power that's driven him this far. I'm sure it'll run out today. <-< >-> *Hopes his curse of always been wrong makes Boxer MLG champ*
Ahaha at first i was going to say "don't disrespect the all mighty emperor" but then I read the last part gogo being wrong 
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2 players I would love to see go very very fare. White-ra and Boxer. Could be so cool if they meet eachother :D
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On August 01 2011 01:24 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially. Why do people think Idra can compete with them? He's been constantly stomped by them in tourneys, especially MC (MC boxer zenio MMA ) etc. What notable korean has he beaten in a recent tourney? Also losing to the other foreigners (Huk, Sen)
he was the first zerg to beat mc in a bo3 in like half a year. That counts for something.
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On August 01 2011 01:35 naolin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:31 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 01 2011 01:27 godemperor wrote:On August 01 2011 01:26 ranjutan wrote:On August 01 2011 01:08 TheSilverfox wrote:I'm cheering so hard for BoxeR to win against Rain and MVP to win against DRG. If that happens - BoxeR have a huge chance of getting a code S spot! He just needs to be a little bit lucky and that HuK or Rain does well in the upcoming matches :D I think only the MLG winner gets code S, even if the 1st place is already code S, the 2nd place will not get it. Its not the winner, its top 4 if the other 3 are in code s or decline. On August 01 2011 01:25 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 01 2011 01:23 SentrySteve wrote:
Does MLG ever post VODs for free? cant you just go to the stream, and click vods down the bottom right? thats how it worked last MLG, and i saw the vods tab, though didnt click it. you can do it when stream offline Assuming you pay for premium pass. oh, last MLG you didnt need a premuim pass to watch replays That's because they decided to give the entire weekend free hd. at first it was only first day free then whole weekend, not sure how it is right now as I'm actually attending!
OH right i see, okay that makes sense now
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On August 01 2011 01:39 Kira__ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:24 Jinivus wrote:On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially. Why do people think Idra can compete with them? He's been constantly stomped by them in tourneys, especially MC (MC boxer zenio MMA ) etc. What notable korean has he beaten in a recent tourney? Also losing to the other foreigners (Huk, Sen) he was the first zerg to beat mc in a bo3 in like half a year. That counts for something.
And then he lost the next 6 games vs him in a row...
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I sooooo sooo want Hayder to perform well and get at least a top 4 finish, but I simply cant see it happen
Plz prove me wrong man, Goooooo!!!!!!
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HuK and IdrA need to play their best today, we need to have a couple foreigners up in the ranks! Counting on them!
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On August 01 2011 01:39 Kira__ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:24 Jinivus wrote:On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially. Why do people think Idra can compete with them? He's been constantly stomped by them in tourneys, especially MC (MC boxer zenio MMA ) etc. What notable korean has he beaten in a recent tourney? Also losing to the other foreigners (Huk, Sen) he was the first zerg to beat mc in a bo3 in like half a year. That counts for something.
It's a well known fact that jetlag seriously hampers your ability to play. Imo Idra is way behind now, and apparently his practice schedule is now really lazy so I expect that gap to grow. Only foreigners who might take down koreans on a good day right now are sen, huk, and naniwa.
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On August 01 2011 01:16 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:09 red4ce wrote:
Hell, I'm bored. Making my prediction for the rest of the entire tourney.
Tyler>Cruncher
wbc>socke
Select>White-ra
TLO>incontrol
Haypro>Tyler
moonan>wbc
Select>slush
Sheth>TLO
Haypro>Sjow
Ret>moonan
Kiwikaki>Select
Sheth>Naniwa
Huk>Haypro
Ganzi>Ret
MMA>Kiwikaki
Idra>Sheth
Ganzi>Huk
Idra>MMA
DRG>MVP
Rain>Boxer
Ganzi>Boxer
Idra>MVP
Ganzi>Idra
DRG>Rain
Ganzi>Rain
DRG>Ganzi
Final standings
1. DRG
2. Ganzi
3. Rain
4. Idra
5. MVP
6. Boxer
7. Huk
8. MMA
Agree with alot of this, but I don't think IdrA can take down both MMA/MVP, TvZ they're both really good. I also don't see all the Ganzi upsets happening and think that HuK has a legitimate chance against him and maybe BoxeR as well, putting him 5-6 depending on consolation matches.
Heh yeah I just went with my first hunch on most of these. I'm not an Idra fanboy at all (SEN>>>idra), but for some reason I just have a feeling that Idra is going to be on fire today. We all know he should have beaten MMA in game 1 of their series at Columbus and Idra has had good success at getting revenge on players who humiliate him (Cruncher, Huk). Idra>MVP has more to do with the fact that MVP always does well EXCEPT when I watch him play, and I plan on catching all the games today. As for Ganzi Ijust think he's going to follow in Puma's steps as an overlooked ex-A team brood war terran suddenly crushing through a foreign tournament and achieving stardom.
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On August 01 2011 01:39 Kira__ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 01:24 Jinivus wrote:On August 01 2011 01:18 FuzzyJAM wrote:On August 01 2011 00:46 Pengu wrote:On August 01 2011 00:28 Erandorr wrote:
This korean dominance is just amazing . I mean its not really news but to see in the bracket that everone seeded in the last two rounds are koreans or have played in korea , thats just impressive. (Other than Alicia of course.)
But to win every BO3 just shows statisticly that there is not just a little gap anymore.
Only takes tiny amounts of win games. As you said Alicia is out, Choya is also out, MMA lost a game to drewbie and actually didn't look super strong. Without a doubt koreans are doing very well, but actually I have thought it has been closer in areas. Kiwi took a game from MVP, select took one from GanZi. Rain went 2-1 against ret and slush. Huk got one from DRG lastly cruncher and sheth both took one from boxer. While the koreans still won all those matches, taking 1 game in a best of 3 is actually some-way off a walk over that everyone assumes by the pure win result. As styles develop and people get use to a slightly more korean style of play I wouldn't mind betting there might be a few more big upsets of the korean powerhouses. Maybe next years MLG's will look different, if anything I would say the gap is closing. Korean stats in Pool Play against non-Koreans: DRG: 10-1 Boxer: 10-2 Rain: 8-2 MMA: 8-1 MVP:8-1 Ganzi: 8-1 Boxer, Ganzi and Rain aren't even normally considered as the very top Koreans. Heck, MMA and DRG aren't even in Code A, though admittedly they're Code S players in terms of skill. The gap is big. Snatching a win isn't all that amazing when you consider that even on ladder these guys lose about 1/3 of the time, a decent amount of that against non-pros. Sure, there are players who can compete with the Koreans - Idra, Huk and Naniwa are the obvious examples at this tournament - but as a whole the foreigner scene is just way behind and that gap will only continue to grow unless major changes are made - a good scene creates better players that creates a good scene that makes better players; a slight advantage will grow exponentially. Why do people think Idra can compete with them? He's been constantly stomped by them in tourneys, especially MC (MC boxer zenio MMA ) etc. What notable korean has he beaten in a recent tourney? Also losing to the other foreigners (Huk, Sen) he was the first zerg to beat mc in a bo3 in like half a year. That counts for something.
And he may have been the first person to lose an extended series ever?
That's one of those losses which is going to haunt him for a long, looooooong time, just like the Cruncher one has.
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