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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
July 31 2011 01:50 GMT
#7481
On July 31 2011 10:48 Whiteman103 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:47 Netsky wrote:
Can someone please explain Slush's TvZ style we've seen at this MLG?

- Basically no creep spread
- Double roach warren but doesn't timing attack when upgrade(s) finish, seems to be enough time for both roach upgrades to finish from one warren
- No attack/armor upgrades until very late
- No transition to hive
- No capacity for pressure
- No macro (Rain takes both his 3rd and 4th before Slush)

I'm a Terran player, but I don't understand how this style can win, or what it is supposed to achieve.



bad player is bad...maybe


Bad poster is bad and misinformed... maybe
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 01:51:02
July 31 2011 01:50 GMT
#7482
On July 31 2011 10:48 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:47 Netsky wrote:
Can someone please explain Slush's TvZ style we've seen at this MLG?

- Basically no creep spread
- Double roach warren but doesn't timing attack when upgrade(s) finish, seems to be enough time for both roach upgrades to finish from one warren
- No attack/armor upgrades until very late
- No transition to hive
- No capacity for pressure
- No macro (Rain takes both his 3rd and 4th before Slush)

I'm a Terran player, but I don't understand how this style can win, or what it is supposed to achieve.


He wins by the Terran not realising he is massing up roaches. It is a massive gamble. Pretty bad build though. He is a hugely overrated player. Finishing high up in old MLGs wasn't hard yo.


lawl.

he beat naniwa and moon last mlg. both of them are top players.

nobody in NA except idra and huk can even dream to beat those 2 in a lan series.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 31 2011 01:50 GMT
#7483
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on shattered temple

In the Left position is Slush

While in the right position is Rain


1:40

Barracks on the way for rain


2:10

Gas taken for rain while slush fast expands


2:40

Pool taken for slush while rain gets his orbital
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
July 31 2011 01:51 GMT
#7484
this crowd is killing me...no excitement.
Shaxe
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands590 Posts
July 31 2011 01:51 GMT
#7485
On July 31 2011 10:50 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:48 bennyaus wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:47 Netsky wrote:
Can someone please explain Slush's TvZ style we've seen at this MLG?

- Basically no creep spread
- Double roach warren but doesn't timing attack when upgrade(s) finish, seems to be enough time for both roach upgrades to finish from one warren
- No attack/armor upgrades until very late
- No transition to hive
- No capacity for pressure
- No macro (Rain takes both his 3rd and 4th before Slush)

I'm a Terran player, but I don't understand how this style can win, or what it is supposed to achieve.


He wins by the Terran not realising he is massing up roaches. It is a massive gamble. Pretty bad build though. He is a hugely overrated player. Finishing high up in old MLGs wasn't hard yo.

I believe he placed 5th @ last MLG as well? Behind the Koreans & IdrA afaik. He isn't overrated imo, at least I never see him get any credit, while he definitely deserves some.

Wouldn't say overrated but I'd say he benefited a lot from the absurd amounts of ZvZ in Columbus.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 31 2011 01:51 GMT
#7486
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on shattered temple

In the Left position is Slush

While in the right position is Rain


1:40

Barracks on the way for rain


2:10

Gas taken for rain while slush fast expands


2:40

Pool taken for slush while rain gets his orbital


3:40

Factory for Rain
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 31 2011 01:51 GMT
#7487
I do have to say, MC makes every tournament more exciting. I'm a little underwhelmed this MLG.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 31 2011 01:51 GMT
#7488
On July 31 2011 10:50 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:47 EiKiM wrote:
Btw. is anyone betting ? or is there a betting thread ?

i´m putting a few bucks on pinnaclesports ( http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2 MLG/1/Lines.aspx ).

My Bets :
IdrA vs SjoW (+1.5) for Match. 1.704

SLush (+1.5) vs Socke for Match. 1.671

RET vs MMA for Match. 1.329

CrunCher (+1.5) vs IdrA for Match. 2.140

GanZi vs Kiwikaki for Match. 1.337 <<<<<< took this one just for the epic odds :D

Rain vs MMA for Match. 1.345

Tyler vs DongRaeGu for Match. 1.143

Kiwikaki vs Moonan for Match. 1.725


Any Thoughts on the outstanding pets @ Pinnacle ?




sjow beating idra? you're crazy!

Same was said for BoxeR ;>.
It appears I have been chosen.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7489
On July 31 2011 10:51 zaii wrote:
this crowd is killing me...no excitement.


This series isn't super important for either player, it will put them into third/forth of their group
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7490
On July 31 2011 10:51 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on shattered temple

In the Left position is Slush

While in the right position is Rain


1:40

Barracks on the way for rain


2:10

Gas taken for rain while slush fast expands


2:40

Pool taken for slush while rain gets his orbital


3:40

Factory for Rain


4:00

Reactor on the barracks while the second refinery goes up for rain
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7491
On July 31 2011 10:51 flowSthead wrote:
I do have to say, MC makes every tournament more exciting. I'm a little underwhelmed this MLG.

I share the same feeling.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 01:52:54
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7492
lings are pretty good^^

wrong color <.<
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7493
On July 31 2011 10:50 RayN wrote:
This crowd is weak, compared to the one in Columbus =/

crowd is much larger, games just haven't been very exciting, mostly one sided spankings
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7494
Anyone know why Sen isn't here? Wasn't he in SoCal just last weekend?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 31 2011 01:52 GMT
#7495
On July 31 2011 10:52 cENTRYZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:51 flowSthead wrote:
I do have to say, MC makes every tournament more exciting. I'm a little underwhelmed this MLG.

I share the same feeling.


Same. MC is not only crazy good but hella entertaining.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 31 2011 01:53 GMT
#7496
On July 31 2011 10:51 flowSthead wrote:
I do have to say, MC makes every tournament more exciting. I'm a little underwhelmed this MLG.

Agree the crowd allways gets crazy and the drama is allways loving when this guy is @ tournaments
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 31 2011 01:53 GMT
#7497
On July 31 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:51 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on shattered temple

In the Left position is Slush

While in the right position is Rain


1:40

Barracks on the way for rain


2:10

Gas taken for rain while slush fast expands


2:40

Pool taken for slush while rain gets his orbital


3:40

Factory for Rain


4:00

Reactor on the barracks while the second refinery goes up for rain


5:00

Ling speed starting for slush

Starport and tech lab for Rain

5:30

Cloak starting for rain
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
July 31 2011 01:53 GMT
#7498
On July 31 2011 10:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:51 zaii wrote:
this crowd is killing me...no excitement.


This series isn't super important for either player, it will put them into third/forth of their group


rain can still get first place.
KenseiTV
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
July 31 2011 01:53 GMT
#7499
WhiteRa 2:0 Major again according to Match History
EiKiM
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 31 2011 01:53 GMT
#7500
On July 31 2011 10:50 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:47 EiKiM wrote:
Btw. is anyone betting ? or is there a betting thread ?

i´m putting a few bucks on pinnaclesports ( http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2 MLG/1/Lines.aspx ).

My Bets :
IdrA vs SjoW (+1.5) for Match. 1.704

SLush (+1.5) vs Socke for Match. 1.671

RET vs MMA for Match. 1.329

CrunCher (+1.5) vs IdrA for Match. 2.140

GanZi vs Kiwikaki for Match. 1.337 <<<<<< took this one just for the epic odds :D

Rain vs MMA for Match. 1.345

Tyler vs DongRaeGu for Match. 1.143

Kiwikaki vs Moonan for Match. 1.725


Any Thoughts on the outstanding pets @ Pinnacle ?




sjow beating idra? you're crazy!


IdrA vs SjoW (+1.5) for Match. 1.704

Means that he only needs to take one game from idra , ( as he has a handicap of +1,5 games )
so as long es he losses 1:2 its a win for me


"Joy is what happens to us when we allow ourselves to recognise how good things really are." -Marianne Williamson
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