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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
ravenKRaz
Profile Joined March 2011
United States580 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3201
Go Tyler!!!
DarkneSS.1360
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3202
a bit off topic but what is DongRaeGu called in this tourney? couldnt find him when searching for dongraegu or drg
Do you really want chat rooms?
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3203
choya with 11 gate, 13 gas opener, probably going for fast fast warpgate
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3204
Choya FIGHTING!
Never make a hydralisk.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3205
On July 31 2011 05:39 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 05:28 Mellon wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:25 Lorizean wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:22 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:16 Topdoller wrote:

Punished for being to greedy, i dont why Terrans blow all the CC energy on mules so early when they are vulnerable to DT rush


Terran needs MULES early game. If a Terran player isn't MULing properly and a good Gateway Timing push comes, they'll lose the game. You can say that Jinro lost because he was greedy or didn't scout enough, but what it comes down to is that Dark Templar are the stupidest thing in the game. They give free wins to Protoss players who don't deserve them, such as Choya over Jinro. Or how about Puzzle beating MMA. Puzzle would have lost first round were it not for the stupidity of a unit that instantly wins you the game (anybody who didn't watch those, basically Puzzle DT rushed two games in a row, MMA forgot Missile Turrets, and later in the game despite MMA microing far better and outplaying Puzzle, he was too far behind.

Basic recap of those games:
Game 1: Jinro plays far better than Choya and wins with great play and NUKES!!!
Game 2: Choya abuses Metalopolis and wins because of a map imbalance and cheesy play.
Game 3: Dark Templar.

Only one of those games is worth watching, I bet you can all guess which one it is.

wait what ... you are saying that it's the DTs fault that MMA forgot missile turrets?
There are a ton of things in this game that can make you lose outright if you aren't prepared for it. That's why you scout. Sometimes you take risks and it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But you can't complain that taking risks (like not scouting the opponents tech path & not preparing for the eventualities) is actually, you know... risky.


Game 1: Jinro didn't play that well tbh. He did nice drops, but his m&m control was quite bad tbh. He landed double nukes which won him the game. That however was both bad and strange by Choya. G2 he didn't get abused as much as he did bad decisions. Walling off his ramp = bad, finishing cloak = bad, Losing viking = bad... And so forth.

Game 3: He was greedy, Choya got lucky and he won. I wouldn't say that Jinro played that much better than Choya, if at all.

You're crazy if you think Jinro didn't play well in Game 1. His micro wasn't spot on, but it was also a ridiculously long game. He completely outplayed Choya in that game. Jinro's real weakness is his early game, but a cheesy player like Choya would never be able to win a macro game against Jinro.

And Game 2 Jinro made a few mistakes, but Choya's micro wasn't super good. He got some lucky pick ups, but the real reason why it was so effective is that that build on Metalopolis is broken. It's stupidly powerful and anyone who disagrees obviously hasn't played against it.

Also regarding the difference between DTs and Banshees, detection for Terran requires you to get a Techlab Starport, which is not that common due to the fact that reactors are far more efficient and basically early game you never get one unless it's a very specific blind build. For Protoss Robo should be a part of every build, and if you don't have one when Cloaked banshees push, it's probably because you either : A). are playing super greedy (super early Nexus) or B). You're 4 Gating. And as far as Jinro goes, he needs to use all his MULES because otherwise there's no way to keep up with Chronoboost.

It's just stupid that if you forget a missile turret at the start you lose, no questions asked. If a Banshee flies into a Protoss base and cloaks no Protoss is going to immediately leave the game, because Banshees will never completely kill a Protoss like DTs will.


So much whine. How can a progamer forget the ONE thing that saves him from a instant loss? It's on Jinro to defend against that, Choya made a good choice. So tired of all the whining here, i'm starting to root for koreans only now cause the bias is huge.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3206
choya getting a second gas. tyler with 4 gates coming out
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3207
On July 31 2011 05:42 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
a bit off topic but what is DongRaeGu called in this tourney? couldnt find him when searching for dongraegu or drg

Pretty sure it's FXOMVPDRG (lots of acronyms)
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 20:43:39
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3208
We used to have past present , present, gerund, future, and past perfect. Now we also have ' JP/Husky '

x is going to be y-ing z.
WE are going to be joining this game
Jinro is gonna be lifting his command centre.

It does not even look like English. It is awful.

You are either joining a game, you are going to join a game, but you are not going to be joining a game.
Being a ho doesn't automatically make you "immoral" or a bad person, but it does make you a ho.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3209
last post before game end but knife edge is given to tyler my boy
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
July 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#3210
clever by choya, making tyler expect 4 gate and teching
good luck have batman
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3211
Well time for some 4 Gate PvP, guess i'll go do homework.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3212
Mind games from Choya?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3213
Choya is already dead :D
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3214
On July 31 2011 05:42 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 05:42 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
a bit off topic but what is DongRaeGu called in this tourney? couldnt find him when searching for dongraegu or drg

Pretty sure it's FXOMVPDRG (lots of acronyms)

Wrong, it's coLMvPDRG
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3215
whaaa choya with 2nd gas? iiiinteresting
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3216
Tyler psyched out! Choya with the brilliant mind games.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3217
If Tyler doesn't go offensive 4 gate Choya is gonna be way ahead.
Courstice
Profile Joined May 2011
United States473 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3218
4gate ZzZzZz
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3219
Choya's build at WORST is him losing all his dts and dealing no damage. However, Terran had to invest in turrets and lose the mining time of the scvs building these turrets. He'll be behind but he won't be dead. And even if Jinro had built his turrets and held off the dt rush with no damage whatsoever, he would not be able to punish Choya without ghost or raven. Scans will cost money and Choya can slow him down by sending single dts while he builds up his defense. If he executes well, I'd even say that he'd be able to safely expand again. It was not all-in at all, but a very calculated risk.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#3220
twilight council from tyler
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