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IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
July 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#1101
wait just realised dreamer must be an amplified version of idra if he truly is the korean version, he plays terran, therefor not only has no respect for his opponent, but also no self respect..
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#1102
On July 22 2011 19:23 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 19:21 MrKn4rz wrote:
On July 22 2011 19:18 Lennon wrote:
Again people bashing dreamer before they've even seen him play. Sad.

Well not really bashing but definately underestimating.
Have u guys considered his tvt might be pretty good considering he is in the same Team as MVP`?


Two other guys 'on the same team as MVP' just got annihilated.

I was talking about tvt.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#1103
On July 22 2011 19:21 Bobster wrote:
I love the confusion in here why IM doesn't play their aces all the time.

Really mirrors when FXO fielded tgun and optikzero.

As always, the fans know best. :p


But seriously, how did Seed, Yonghwa and Happy get well known and respected in the first place? Because they were fielded in the GSTL.

It's always a gamble to field your unknown players as a coach - if they win, you're a brilliant tactical mastermind, hiding a closet gosu and crushing the opponent's strategy. If they lose - you're the biggest idiot for simply not fielding the aces all the time.


It all comes down to this: qxc is actually playing well and actually took out 2 IM players in decisive, straight-up games.

I think all those players then proved themselves later on, apart from maybe Seed, of course these players might prove themselves later on too. Also you forgot Losira, we didn't really know him until he all-killed in the GSTL.

I don't think people object to the IM coach fielding 2 unknowns, but playing a 3rd is extremely risky because Nestea can still lose to a proxy rax SCV all-in or a cannon rush.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#1104
On July 22 2011 19:24 Ribbon wrote:
I like how IM is sending a Zerg, Protoss, and Terran against qxc.

"Jesus, MVP. Get on Liquipedia! What the hell is his weak matchup?!"

That's the best strategy unless he does have a glaring match-up weakness.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
July 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#1105
just because IM is doing this im hoping this all backfires on them and they lose the next 3 matches and dont make the playoffs. I mean it's one thing to send 2 b-teamers in one day but when you're down 0-2? such brazen overconfidence
Kira.Yami
Profile Joined April 2010
158 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1106
On a side note, is picking your own colour allowed on TL? Or QXC just doesn't care, or the koreans just didn't tell him. Because most the games are red vs. blue
Push
hawthwang
Profile Joined June 2011
United States107 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1107
Dude the blue flame hellion new icon is beast, I've seen it like 20 times, but wow
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1108
On July 22 2011 19:24 Gaxton wrote:
NesTea for ace, instead of Mvp?
Never forgive never forget, IM coach.

u ain't too smart iz ya?
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1109
On July 22 2011 19:22 BaLoO- wrote:
IM just does not care, they are 2-0 already in the league, top 3 of the group goes on so there's no need of results at the momement.

Strongly disagree with that sentiment.


How did Seed, Yonghwa and Happy get well known and respected in the first place? Because they were fielded in the GSTL when no one knew them.

It's always a gamble to field your unknown players as a coach - if they win, you're a brilliant tactical mastermind, hiding a closet gosu and crushing the opponent's strategy. If they lose - you're the biggest idiot for simply not fielding the aces all the time.

It all comes down to this: qxc is actually playing well and actually took out 2 IM players in decisive, straight-up games.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 10:26:06
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1110
On July 22 2011 19:23 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 19:22 Probe1 wrote:
(T)qxc Metalopolis (T)dreamertt

qxc starting at the top right, dreamertt starting at the bottom right

(close air positions

3:00
Gas first for dreamertt while qxc opens a more traditional rax first.

5:00

Dreamtt opens 1 1 1 while qxc goes directly into bf hellion then starport.
6:00
dreamertt scouts it and makes a banshee then ques another, cloak is on the way. However a viking pops for qxc.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1111
On July 22 2011 19:23 L3g3nd_ wrote:
fast fact from dreamer, cloak banshee is my bet.

called it
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
hawthwang
Profile Joined June 2011
United States107 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1112
come on qxc turrret
hawthwang
Profile Joined June 2011
United States107 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1113
YES VIKING :p
SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1114
making a viking QXC I think I'm in love
| Cloud9 | DK | Liquid |
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1115
hahah i love how that marine didnt die -_-
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#1116
On July 22 2011 19:25 hawthwang wrote:
come on qxc turrret

your wish is his command.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#1117
--- Nuked ---
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#1118
The Cloaked units will NOT kill Qxc today!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#1119
Qxc was able to deny the initial banshee with a viking, but now cloak is finished for Dreamer.
hawthwang
Profile Joined June 2011
United States107 Posts
July 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#1120
RAVEN :p
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