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Netherlands15103 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:30 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC.. Naniwa is not MC. And beating is not outclassing.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup_3
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Mana vs Huk is going to be streamed, right?
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On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC..
Naniwa also beat MC in hsc. He also beat huk in the semifinals.
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On August 05 2011 05:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:26 mrRoflpwn wrote:
dude tb and apollo said 15 minutes- its been like half an hour -.- they ditched us =[ We cannot make HuK and Darkforce play any faster, sorry, this is how things go.
I was just kidding lol, i know you guys were waiting for the Incredible Huk to finish =]
Great job casting btw and hope the rest of the tournament goes smoothly.
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On August 05 2011 05:31 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. huk dominated him at MLG (not even mentioning homestory, which was a while ago by starcraft terms)
Pretty much Naniwa only had one build, that got countered then huk won easily when he figured out how to counter it.
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On August 05 2011 05:27 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:24 sleepingdog wrote:On August 05 2011 05:22 MrCon wrote:On August 05 2011 05:21 figq wrote:
0 army supply tends to lose vs early-mid push. Yeah, he scouted the stargate "oops, i need anti air", but forgot to make units. To be fair, normally toss players build 4 phoenixes, build robotics and do nothing at all for the next..well...20 minutes  This stargate into mass-gates is awsome at keeping zergs "honest" with their drone-count, I will investigate that further in the near future. Seems really promising. isnt it kinda all inish ? making stargate just for it to be scouted and than proceeding with gates?
It's not making stargate just to be scouted, it's making it and poking and scouting how the zerg reacts. If the zerg overreacts like darkforce did and like huk expected, then he uses a quick gateway push to end the greedy zerg. Otherwise he would just defend with his gateway units and take that third.
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On August 05 2011 05:29 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:27 RealQ wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Last MLG 2-0 and Homestory Cup final he beat Naniwa aswell, after losing the winner semi tho, but overal he beat nani there aswell. I watched all of the HSC3 games, and there was nothing about them you could even remotely call outclassing. In the end Huk won because of one misread/mistake from Naniwa who actually had the game almost in the bag.
thats pvp for you, 4-1 is not outclassing?
even if its just one 1 mistake per game it adds up in a bo7.
before the finals nani's build was just blind hard countering huk's and even then it was pretty even.
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On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC..
yes and he got completely owned by mc week later in gsl
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Goddamn that playlist is just awesome, I keep it open while watching the other streams.
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On August 05 2011 05:27 Lysanias wrote:It's easy to see who watches Kaldor often and who does not, Regular viewers will know what he's drinking, while new people think he's half drunk drinking one beer after another He should show the commercials of the drink, they are just epic.
It is cruel to inflict such unseeable things on the common Assembly stream viewer! <3
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On August 05 2011 05:32 oskarla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC.. Naniwa also beat MC in hsc. He also beat huk in the semifinals.
Overal Huk won 6 games versus Nani's 4 so yea huck did beat him.
Counting the recent MLG its 8-4 between them in Huk's favor in 2011
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teamEG streaming, btw. 
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Can people stop the nani vs huk penis measuring competition? They're both great players, does there have to be more to it than that? Thread going crazy T_T
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On August 05 2011 05:33 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC.. yes and he got completely owned by mc week later in gsl
Completely owned?
The games were insanely close, and it was more HuK losing them than MC winning them.
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On August 05 2011 05:31 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:29 sleepingdog wrote:On August 05 2011 05:27 bgx wrote:On August 05 2011 05:24 sleepingdog wrote:On August 05 2011 05:22 MrCon wrote:On August 05 2011 05:21 figq wrote:
0 army supply tends to lose vs early-mid push. Yeah, he scouted the stargate "oops, i need anti air", but forgot to make units. To be fair, normally toss players build 4 phoenixes, build robotics and do nothing at all for the next..well...20 minutes This stargate into mass-gates is awsome at keeping zergs "honest" with their drone-count, I will investigate that further in the near future. Seems really promising. isnt it kinda all inish ? making stargate just for it to be scouted and than proceeding with gates? Yes, all-in-ish in the sense that you need to do at least massive drone-damage to the third. But on the other hand, keep in mind that it's done of a nexus first / forge expo while continuing probe-production...so you definitely don't have to finish the game there. People are going to have to get used to the fact that Protoss is a race based on timing attacks. Chronoboost literally lets us mold our attacks into a ton of different timings and if we want our timing attacks to be particularly devastating, it will have to be a little more 'all-in-ish' than some people would like.
Yup. If zergs want to be safe both vs air, and vs DTs and vs mass-gates, they have to sacrifice just as much economy so that they can't massively outmacro protoss in midgame.
These timing-games are absolutely essential for the meta-game, otherwise we'll see just games like Sen vs Sase, where the zerg roflstomps with a maxed roach army 14-15 minutes into the game.
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I don't understand why the Nada-Nightend match is shown on a god damn french stream instead of Appolo/TB one..
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On August 05 2011 05:33 RealQ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:32 oskarla wrote:On August 05 2011 05:29 Airionn wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Homestory, he also beat MC.. Naniwa also beat MC in hsc. He also beat huk in the semifinals. Overal Huk won 6 games versus Nani's 4 so yea huck did beat him.
But he did not outclass him.
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We are starting to drift off track here, non the less Huk is much better player than Mana and his PvP is much better..
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On August 05 2011 05:32 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 05:29 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:27 RealQ wrote:On August 05 2011 05:26 ellirc wrote:On August 05 2011 05:25 Condor Hero wrote:On August 05 2011 05:23 hifriend wrote:
Mana has a good shot at taking down huk imo. sorry i disagree, if huk plays anywhere near himself he will dominate mana so hard. huk consistently outclasses nani (who is considered best pvp in europe no?) from what ive seen, mana is very mediocore in pvp When did Huk outclass Naniwa? I agree that he should be able to win against Mana pretty convincingly, but outclassing Naniwa is nit entirely true. Last MLG 2-0 and Homestory Cup final he beat Naniwa aswell, after losing the winner semi tho, but overal he beat nani there aswell. I watched all of the HSC3 games, and there was nothing about them you could even remotely call outclassing. In the end Huk won because of one misread/mistake from Naniwa who actually had the game almost in the bag. thats pvp for you, 4-1 is not outclassing? even if its just one 1 mistake per game it adds up in a bo7. before the finals nani's build was just blind hard countering huk's and even then it was pretty even.
It was 6-4. AND Nani beat MC.
But let's forget about that right now, jimpo is playing and we will never agree it seems 
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