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Nivek
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
July 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#221
Glon v MaNa on iCCup stream.
eMazing
Profile Joined January 2011
59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 19:12:42
July 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#222
On July 17 2011 04:09 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 04:07 eMazing wrote:
According to AxelToss, Moman's opponent (annyungprime) accepted a regame and Moman won the regame. Not a big controversy guys, we are all good!


why did they even do a regame, the result of the game was so clear...
moman should've just dropped the game, he was the one way behind and wasn't he also the one that disconnected?

According to the rules if both players agree to a regame, the regame trumps the referees ruling on the victor of the disconnect game. AnnYung could have not accepted the regame and won, but most Koreans are really nice and honorable (for lack of a better word)


On July 17 2011 04:10 Nivek wrote:
Glon v MaNa on iCCup stream.

Glon is the player who took out HwangSin
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
July 16 2011 19:11 GMT
#223
Ret pushes into Machines natural. 16 Roaches vs 3. Looks like gg.
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
July 16 2011 19:12 GMT
#224
Ret+ Show Spoiler +
with a huge +1 roach push. Machine got an early baneling nest that did diddly squat, put his roach count waaaay behind Rets, Machine leaves
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
July 16 2011 19:12 GMT
#225
Make sure to watch Hack v Grubby on Axeltoss.
the farm ends here
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 16 2011 19:12 GMT
#226
Who is scatmango btw, I always see him get pretty far in these events?
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 16 2011 19:13 GMT
#227
On July 17 2011 04:07 eMazing wrote:
According to AxelToss, Moman's opponent (annyungprime) accepted a regame and Moman won the regame. Not a big controversy guys, we are all good!

Maybe not a big controversy but he had that game won, he eliminated himself by accepting a regame, terrible way to go.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 16 2011 19:13 GMT
#228
On July 17 2011 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 04:07 Redox wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:02 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm not an organizer of another league wtf

And my post had nothing to do with criticizing TL.. I said hot_bid was being a hero.

Are you guys an organized society of dumb asses or is it just by bad luck you all congregate here?

So how does the quality of TL open take a big hit just because the game between deezer and Demuslim is not livestreamed?
Its nonsense anyway, but even more so as all the ro16 games are never livecasted but casted from replays to prevent the very problem of stream cheating.
So this actually highlights a quality of TL open, and doesnt mean it takes a big hit.


because any event deezer participates in that is livestreamed we can't watch it.. has NOTHING to do with TLOpen specifically and everything to do with deezer downgrading the quality of events he participates in.

Read my fucking posts more carefully next time

I read it carefully. You talked specifically about the match Deezer vs Demuslim that according to you you we cant watch while you can.
Which is of course nonsense as already pointed out because it will be casted from replays.

Maybe you meant something different, just pointing out I read your post properly.
Anyway, even I am bored of this now.
Off-season = best season
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
July 16 2011 19:14 GMT
#229
On July 17 2011 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 03:51 vrok wrote:
On July 17 2011 03:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 17 2011 03:37 vrok wrote:
On July 17 2011 03:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 17 2011 03:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On July 17 2011 03:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:
As dodgy as...Losira's ZvT?

Well he's improved it lately it seems, but yes. Losira has/had a huge hole in his game which prevented him being top tier. Though still extremely good since his zvz/zvp are ridiculous.


I doubt all the "best foreigners" have been actually competing in the TLOpen. The only really notable ones here are Major, Nerchio, and Ret.

Mana, Lalush, Strelok, Goody, Machine, Lowely, DeMuslim, Grubby.


He was top-tier during that period as well. It was the issue that left him out of the "best Korean zerg" talk but he was still above the rest.

The only one I forgot is Strelok. None of the others are on the level of Naniwa or Nerchio when it comes to consistently winning against the best.

On July 17 2011 03:20 vrok wrote:
If you're that super sensitive about a word then you can tell yourself that the fanboyism part doesn't apply to you and just keep the "ridiculous expectations" part.


Your ignorance offends me, not your labels.

Nerchio is the favorite to win IMO. It doesn't guarantee him the win either, just like the favorites in the GSL.

An opinion based on nothing of substance. Hence the overdo part. Doing well in the tournament, sure, but winning and flat out being superior to the participating Koreans based on zero evidence, not so much. Especially not in a mostly Bo1 tournament. As a zerg.


If selecting a favored player is "overdoing" it, then I guess we can never speculate on any tournament in SC2. And before you throw out another ad hominem, my opinion is based on months and months of watching Nerchio alongside many other players.

Who said he was "flat out superior"? Strawman much?

Face it, you overreacted and got embarrassed.

You quite clearly put him above a bunch of Korean players based on nothing but unsubstantiated speculation. Anyway, that's beside the point.

This is what I wrote:
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?

Please point out the overreaction LOL. If anything you overreacted due to pride of your 'months of research' and started thinking that I was personally attacking you. What I wrote was quite harmless.


I did put him about. Slightly above. Slightly above Koreans who have had little to no substantial success in the last few months (besides HwangSin). Being Korean doesn't automatically make you better than everyone else.

Not proud of my knowledge. There will always be people who know more about say, MakaPrime's playstyle and its limitations, than me. But my opinion is not based on "unsubstantiated speculation".

Well I'm not a fanboy of Nerchio (I actually prefer the Korean scene to the foreigner scene) and I didn't say he would crush everyone else. Neither fanboyism nor ridiculous expectations. You must be mistaking my statements for "OMG NERCHIO IS GONNA RAPE TEH KOREANS".

Like I said, your ignorance offends me more than your labels. Your opinions have as much support as mine for the moment, yet I'm the one who's supposed to be the fanboy and all that jazz. Just agree to disagree without trying to demean the other person, k?

That's true, but that's why I didn't arbitrarily rank a bunch of unrelated players though.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 16 2011 19:14 GMT
#230
On July 17 2011 04:13 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:07 Redox wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:02 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm not an organizer of another league wtf

And my post had nothing to do with criticizing TL.. I said hot_bid was being a hero.

Are you guys an organized society of dumb asses or is it just by bad luck you all congregate here?

So how does the quality of TL open take a big hit just because the game between deezer and Demuslim is not livestreamed?
Its nonsense anyway, but even more so as all the ro16 games are never livecasted but casted from replays to prevent the very problem of stream cheating.
So this actually highlights a quality of TL open, and doesnt mean it takes a big hit.


because any event deezer participates in that is livestreamed we can't watch it.. has NOTHING to do with TLOpen specifically and everything to do with deezer downgrading the quality of events he participates in.

Read my fucking posts more carefully next time

I read it carefully. You talked specifically about the match Deezer vs Demuslim that according to you you we cant watch while you can.
Which is of course nonsense as already pointed out because it will be casted from replays.

Maybe you meant something different, just pointing out I read your post properly.
Anyway, even I am bored of this now.



Only the round of 4 onwards is cast by replays by Chill and TLO.
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 19:16:01
July 16 2011 19:15 GMT
#231
Looks like Hack is going for the old Banshee rine raven all in

EDIT: SCVs pulled
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
July 16 2011 19:16 GMT
#232
On July 17 2011 04:13 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:07 Redox wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:02 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm not an organizer of another league wtf

And my post had nothing to do with criticizing TL.. I said hot_bid was being a hero.

Are you guys an organized society of dumb asses or is it just by bad luck you all congregate here?

So how does the quality of TL open take a big hit just because the game between deezer and Demuslim is not livestreamed?
Its nonsense anyway, but even more so as all the ro16 games are never livecasted but casted from replays to prevent the very problem of stream cheating.
So this actually highlights a quality of TL open, and doesnt mean it takes a big hit.


because any event deezer participates in that is livestreamed we can't watch it.. has NOTHING to do with TLOpen specifically and everything to do with deezer downgrading the quality of events he participates in.

Read my fucking posts more carefully next time

I read it carefully. You talked specifically about the match Deezer vs Demuslim that according to you you we cant watch while you can.
Which is of course nonsense as already pointed out because it will be casted from replays.

Maybe you meant something different, just pointing out I read your post properly.
Anyway, even I am bored of this now.


Dude give him a fking break and as far as i know only ro4 is casted from replays. I think Chill and TLO.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#233
Damn, revenge of the foreigners this week? Not too surprising when looking at the foreigners in this week.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#234
I've seen hack play vs huk several games on korean ladder, his tvp is INSANE.

Funny that he did 1base 1/1/1 allin, I guess cuz it's an easy win, he totally doesn't need to do it.
Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
July 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#235
How did InControl lose to Sky0?
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 19:18:25
July 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#236
from ro16 onward everything is casted from replays, it's always been that way @ TLOpen's
Marauder Die Die
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
July 16 2011 19:18 GMT
#237
On July 17 2011 04:17 travis wrote:
I've seen hack play vs huk several games on korean ladder, his tvp is INSANE.

Funny that he did 1base 1/1/1 allin, I guess cuz it's an easy win, he totally doesn't need to do it.

It's always good to throw into a BoX.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 16 2011 19:19 GMT
#238
but chill and TLO only cast semi finals and finals. Replays must be dished out to other streamers i presume then?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 19:20:26
July 16 2011 19:19 GMT
#239
On July 17 2011 04:16 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 04:13 Redox wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:07 Redox wrote:
On July 17 2011 04:02 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm not an organizer of another league wtf

And my post had nothing to do with criticizing TL.. I said hot_bid was being a hero.

Are you guys an organized society of dumb asses or is it just by bad luck you all congregate here?

So how does the quality of TL open take a big hit just because the game between deezer and Demuslim is not livestreamed?
Its nonsense anyway, but even more so as all the ro16 games are never livecasted but casted from replays to prevent the very problem of stream cheating.
So this actually highlights a quality of TL open, and doesnt mean it takes a big hit.


because any event deezer participates in that is livestreamed we can't watch it.. has NOTHING to do with TLOpen specifically and everything to do with deezer downgrading the quality of events he participates in.

Read my fucking posts more carefully next time

I read it carefully. You talked specifically about the match Deezer vs Demuslim that according to you you we cant watch while you can.
Which is of course nonsense as already pointed out because it will be casted from replays.

Maybe you meant something different, just pointing out I read your post properly.
Anyway, even I am bored of this now.


Dude give him a fking break and as far as i know only ro4 is casted from replays. I think Chill and TLO.

I was not throwing any new stuff at him, I just defended myself against the accusation that I was not reading his posts properly. I think I am allowed to answer to a post that was directed at me.

And games are replay casted from ro16 on. The big banners in the lower right corner are a good hint most of the time.
Off-season = best season
Imhotep
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden267 Posts
July 16 2011 19:19 GMT
#240
On July 17 2011 04:19 Zaros wrote:
but chill and TLO only cast semi finals and finals. Replays must be dished out to other streamers i presume then?

Ofc, the casters get them in their mailboxes. The games casted atm are all casted from replays.
"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things." - Richard Feynman
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