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Hey guys - These games are meant to be fun and for your entertainment. Caster and Player bashing will not be tolerated. Manner please!

Also, this is a Live Report thread - not the place to discuss your displeasure with the event or any of the people involved with it.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 10 2011 14:43 GMT
#141
On July 10 2011 21:30 Lucidity wrote:
Why is there an hour scheduled for a Musical Act and Entertainment? What the hell. No one is watching NASL for music. We're here to watch SC2.

This whole weekend has had the stench of some leftovers from GSL. Player intro vids ... which have gone stale and now last 30 mins each. Musical acts before the finals ... which now last an hour and won't include cute Kpop ass. There's no need to imitate the Koreans, especially if you're going to do it wrong.

An hour long opening ceremony... This isn't the olympics. An hour break in the middle of the schedule for ... absolutely no reason? Why?! This just seems like deliberate time wasting to ensure that only NA viewers can tune in. The final (if on time, which isn't guaranteed) only starts at 2AM here. If all the planned events lasted reasonable amounts of time the final could easily start at 11PM for EU. The only explanation I can think of is that they're trying to get more VOD sales from Euros, but they have to know that, that isn't going to happen. It's overpriced.

I am dumbfounded.

You don't need to watch the fluff, you know?

Just let them do their opening ceremony and musical acts. You can just tune in for the games if that's what you' want to see (I know I will do exactly that).
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
July 10 2011 14:43 GMT
#142
On July 10 2011 23:38 Titorelli wrote:
The schedule of MLG Anaheim will be as bad for EU as the NASL I suppose cause its also PDT

Yeah but there are so many games being played at MLG.

It's pretty weird why you would fuck over EU when there's only 2 sets for the day.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
July 10 2011 14:44 GMT
#143
I wanna watch that players intro video so bad, isn't that in Youtube or something?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 10 2011 14:45 GMT
#144
On July 10 2011 23:37 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/

Yep, dont know why they did it like this. Guess they want more time to prepare? Meeeeeh, no final for me either.


I think it's because they are trying so hard to be like the Korean events but they don't have the budget or experience to do it.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
July 10 2011 14:45 GMT
#145

On July 10 2011 21:30 Lucidity wrote:
Why is there an hour scheduled for a Musical Act and Entertainment? What the hell. No one is watching NASL for music. We're here to watch SC2.

This whole weekend has had the stench of some leftovers from GSL. Player intro vids ... which have gone stale and now last 30 mins each. Musical acts before the finals ... which now last an hour and won't include cute Kpop ass. There's no need to imitate the Koreans, especially if you're going to do it wrong.

An hour long opening ceremony... This isn't the olympics. An hour break in the middle of the schedule for ... absolutely no reason? Why?! This just seems like deliberate time wasting to ensure that only NA viewers can tune in. The final (if on time, which isn't guaranteed) only starts at 2AM here. If all the planned events lasted reasonable amounts of time the final could easily start at 11PM for EU. The only explanation I can think of is that they're trying to get more VOD sales from Euros, but they have to know that, that isn't going to happen. It's overpriced.

I am dumbfounded.



11 for EU translates into 2 in the afternoon for the west coast and 5 for the east coast. In what universe do people actually think they'd do that?
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 14:47:40
July 10 2011 14:45 GMT
#146
On July 10 2011 23:16 Ashworth wrote:
Why the fuck is the schedule so bad? MLGs was perfect and the final for NASL starts at 3 AM cest...

It's possible for the two biggest viewerbases to watch this live at a reasonable time ffs...

Well, being's as this is in North America, in california, I think it makes sense to start it at 12:00. It would be a bit silly for them to start it @ 6:00 and have a tourny for all the people that have to wake up EXTREMELY early to go watch then 4hrs later say "goodbye have fun at the morning afterparties, when you can't even consume/buy liquor!"

EDIT : Times
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 10 2011 14:46 GMT
#147
As one of the most vocal critics of NASL fuckups in the other LR threads, I really feel that some of you guys are just complaining for the sake of complaining right now.


The schedule is shit - yes, same as yesterday.
Opening ceremony and musical acts - yes, known for fucking weeks now and voluntary.
shitty times for europeans - better than yesterday and the day before. sleep ahead of schedule during the oc and music and you're fresh for the games
30 minute intro videos - get a watch, please. they're 5-7 minutes max.


On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/
You watched the games at 6AM and 8AM but won't watch the game at 2AM?


Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 10 2011 14:46 GMT
#148
On July 10 2011 23:42 MajorityofOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 Beyonder wrote:
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/

Yep, dont know why they did it like this. Guess they want more time to prepare? Meeeeeh, no final for me either.


They did it like this because these are the best times for North Americans. I'd love for the GSL to start nine hours earlier, but what can you do

No I dont think you really get this one. The major audience for NASL comes from 2 fronts: America and Europe. And other organizations such as MLG realise this, despite them being America-based, which is why the important matches are at an Europe-appropriate time.

The GSL purposely starts at a time when most Koreans are back from work, but also when Europeans are awake and Americans are not 100% asleep yet.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 14:48:17
July 10 2011 14:46 GMT
#149
On July 10 2011 23:45 MajorityofOne wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 21:30 Lucidity wrote:
Why is there an hour scheduled for a Musical Act and Entertainment? What the hell. No one is watching NASL for music. We're here to watch SC2.

This whole weekend has had the stench of some leftovers from GSL. Player intro vids ... which have gone stale and now last 30 mins each. Musical acts before the finals ... which now last an hour and won't include cute Kpop ass. There's no need to imitate the Koreans, especially if you're going to do it wrong.

An hour long opening ceremony... This isn't the olympics. An hour break in the middle of the schedule for ... absolutely no reason? Why?! This just seems like deliberate time wasting to ensure that only NA viewers can tune in. The final (if on time, which isn't guaranteed) only starts at 2AM here. If all the planned events lasted reasonable amounts of time the final could easily start at 11PM for EU. The only explanation I can think of is that they're trying to get more VOD sales from Euros, but they have to know that, that isn't going to happen. It's overpriced.

I am dumbfounded.



11 for EU translates into 2 in the afternoon for the west coast and 5 for the east coast. In what universe do people actually think they'd do that?


It's a Sunday. It's far more beneficial to get most of both audiences than just get one. eSports is global. You don't get massive numbers by not being global.


On July 10 2011 23:46 Bobster wrote:
As one of the most vocal critics of NASL fuckups in the other LR threads, I really feel that some of you guys are just complaining for the sake of complaining right now.


The schedule is shit - yes, same as yesterday.
Opening ceremony and musical acts - yes, known for fucking weeks now and voluntary.
shitty times for europeans - better than yesterday and the day before. sleep ahead of schedule during the oc and music and you're fresh for the games
30 minute intro videos - get a watch, please. they're 5-7 minutes max.


Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/
You watched the games at 6AM and 8AM but won't watch the game at 2AM?




People are complaining since the whole weekend has been like this when it doesn't have to be. There's no reason to include so much fluff. They could have made all the games bo7 with the amount of fluff they included.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
July 10 2011 14:46 GMT
#150
Isnt it kinda normal to have the finals played in the afternoon/evening local time? You cant expect the NASL to schedule the finals for 10am local time
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
dsll
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
July 10 2011 14:47 GMT
#151
if Temp0 sings "Thank you Day[9]" then it will make the whole NASL event a success.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
July 10 2011 14:48 GMT
#152
On July 10 2011 23:46 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/
You watched the games at 6AM and 8AM but won't watch the game at 2AM?



Tomorrow is Monday, some people work.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 14:49:03
July 10 2011 14:48 GMT
#153
On July 10 2011 23:37 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/

Yep, dont know why they did it like this. Guess they want more time to prepare? Meeeeeh, no final for me either.

If you have the HD pass you can watch the whole thing again whenever you please @
http://justin.tv/naslseasonone/videos
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 10 2011 14:49 GMT
#154
Theres alot of things to consider about PuMa vs MC.

1. They have never played a long BoX series in SC2.
2. MC has shown that as bossly as he is, his PvT seems slightly behind his PvP and PvZ.
3. PuMa has shown that he can handle crisis management, very precise timing, and great decision making.
4. MC has stated that he didn't want to face PuMa because even he thinks PuMa is beastly.
5. PuMa has had issues with nerves, and if theres any opponent in the world that will put your nerves racking, its MC.

Im scared for MC. But I am going to say I believe MC will take this, unless PuMa does 1 and 2 base timings every match MC will deliver. MC has nerves of steal, has been taking money like candy, and his overall experience in SC2 will deliver here. He has lost 1 Bo7 in his entire career, and in Bo5's his stats are sick.

Lets hop Poltimus doesn't give PuMa a call, because that could be bad news
Obama-Toss Fighting.
4-2 to oGsMC.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
July 10 2011 14:50 GMT
#155
On July 10 2011 23:46 Titorelli wrote:
Isnt it kinda normal to have the finals played in the afternoon/evening local time? You cant expect the NASL to schedule the finals for 10am local time


The finals would be 3 pm and it still be reasonable. Firstly stop exaggerating and making things up, secondly understand that it isn't beneficial to alienate almost 50% of their audience.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
July 10 2011 14:51 GMT
#156
On July 10 2011 23:46 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 23:37 AnatheKing wrote:
Horrible schedule for us europeans. Have watched every game so far, but seems I will miss the final :/
You watched the games at 6AM and 8AM but won't watch the game at 2AM?

I think the difference for a lot of people now is they will have work tomorrow. i'll definitely be watching though
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 14:53:01
July 10 2011 14:52 GMT
#157
Cut the break and set it back 1 hour.
???
Profit

I'll probably pull an all nighter and be a zombie at work tomorrow anyways.
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
July 10 2011 14:52 GMT
#158
On July 10 2011 23:49 ohampatu wrote:
Theres alot of things to consider about PuMa vs MC.

1. They have never played a long BoX series in SC2.
2. MC has shown that as bossly as he is, his PvT seems slightly behind his PvP and PvZ.
3. PuMa has shown that he can handle crisis management, very precise timing, and great decision making.
4. MC has stated that he didn't want to face PuMa because even he thinks PuMa is beastly.
5. PuMa has had issues with nerves, and if theres any opponent in the world that will put your nerves racking, its MC.

Im scared for MC. But I am going to say I believe MC will take this, unless PuMa does 1 and 2 base timings every match MC will deliver. MC has nerves of steal, has been taking money like candy, and his overall experience in SC2 will deliver here. He has lost 1 Bo7 in his entire career, and in Bo5's his stats are sick.

Lets hop Poltimus doesn't give PuMa a call, because that could be bad news
Obama-Toss Fighting.
4-2 to oGsMC.



On top of this, Puma hasn't really won any prize money before in SC2. I think Puma is more content with $25k that MC, who has won like 175k now.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 10 2011 14:54 GMT
#159
On July 10 2011 23:07 insaneMicro wrote:
Grand finals at 02:00 am , are you kidding me? That's gonna be hard T_T
I mean, I need to watch my new favorite player PuMa own MC and get rich, but this will definitely require copious amounts of caffeine.
Also musical act will be Anna singing afaik.

Edit: I'm pretty sure that this is off-topic, but I'd like to think that Gentleman was better than IrOn at BW.After all, he was Flash's sparring partner.

Never underestimate the suicidetoss. MBC FIGHTING!
Also his Kara Mister dance (butt dance) is legendary-
he was the team's ace on Hyungjoon becomes a progamer.

So I see your BW story and raise with these random ones.

I want revenge for Nal_ra, why isn't anyone doing it for him.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:00:27
July 10 2011 14:54 GMT
#160
On July 10 2011 22:34 Grend wrote:
Go GSL! Oops, I mean NASL

I hope MC wins, his ego needs to grow to more epic proportions.
Haven`t seen Puma play but I hear he is good, would not mind if he beat MC either, since that would give Ret more creds

Nice post =)

I like Puma, and I think I saw everyone of his games that are available, but yesterday against squirtle he was not reassuring...I fear he'll get stomped, he's not Bomber yet. But he's pretty good don't get me wrong, more than pretty good in fact.

Btw, pinnacle odds are appealing for tonight.
July 1.877
Sen 1.980
Puma +1.5 1.694 2.360
MC -1.5 2.230 1.625

I took Sen, MC-1.5 and MC dry (with a bet to cover the -1.5)
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