DreamHack Regionals Finals for South Europe and Valencia Invitational in StarCraft II to be played the 16th-17th of September. Official match-ups and match times released today together with the official host-duo Hailey Bright and James Harding.
This Friday, 16th of September, DreamHack South Europe starts at Veles e Vents in Valencia, Spain. It kick-offs with the Regional Finals in Counter-Strike 1.6, StarCraft 2 and Super Street Fighter IV where the best players from Spain, Portugal, France and Italy will battle it out to determine the Regional DreamHack-champions 2011 and also qualify for the Grand Finals at DreamHack Winter 2011.
In addition to the event, DreamHack will host the fourth event in DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship – the Valencia Invitational. DreamHack have invited 8 of the world’s best players to fight for 100 000 SEK prize purse and also auto-berths into the main tournament at DreamHack Winter 2011.
Today we’re proud to announce the match-ups for Valencia Invitational. All matches are played best-of-3 and the Finals is played best-of-5.
Schedule / Match-ups: 15.00 Round of 8 EG HuK (Protoss) vs. Mouz Thorzain (Terran) 16.00 Round of 8 Liquid`HerO (Protoss) vs. EG IdrA (Zerg) 17.00 Round of 8 Fnatic Rain (Terran) vs. Dignitas NaNiwa (Protoss) 18.00 Round of 8 MVP.coL.DongRaeGu (Zerg) vs. APSC2 LucifroN (Terran) 19.00 Semifinal #1 TBA 20.00 Semifinal #2 TBA 21.00 Grand Final TBA
15:30 Fan meeting #1 - Rain, NaNiwa, DRG & LucifroN 17.15 Fan meeting #2 - HuK, ThorZaIN, HerO & IdrA
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Maps: TSL3 Metalopolis Antiga Shipyard ESL Shattered Temple GSL Dual Sight ESL Shakuras Plateau Tal'Darim Altar LE GSTL GSL TerminusRE
Each player will blindly veto one map from the pool. The maps will then be randomly chosen of those remaining.
Official hosts for the event will be Hailey Bright and James ‘2GD’ Harding. Bright, famous from Coin-op TV, Spike TV and self-professed ‘tech geek’ will be the presenter of the games and interview the gamers between matches. Esports celebrity James ‘2GD’ Harding will assist as the co-host throughout the event.
All matches will be livestreamed in three different languages: English, Swedish and Spanish. English stream in 720p will be available thanks to TwitchTV. Sweden’s largest and most influencing media outlet Aftonbladet will broadcast the show in Swedish – produced by Amok Studios. And for the first time, we’ll also feature a Spanish stream through Canal+ and produced by Canales.
The star players for DreamHack Valencia Invitational have now been set after the Spanish star LucifroN defeated his brother Vortix this evening. The last two players presented are no other than the Korean stars HerO and Rain who will fight for the 100 000 SEK on the 17th of September.
Around the corner is DreamHack's second Invitational hosted at beautiful Veles e Vents building located in the Valencia Street Formula1 Circuit and the 33rd America’s Cup harbour. Tonight the Spanish Champion was decided between the two brothers LucifroN and Vortix. We welcome LucifroN to DreamHack Valencia Invitational and we are sure he will do an impact in the tournament. LucifroN is one of the most successful European WarCraft III players with great achievements, Runner up of Blizzcon 2008, ESWC Masters Cheonan 2009 Champion and winner of BlizzCon 2009 European Regionals.
DreamHack can present Team Liquid’s newest addition to Valencia, HerO. The feared Protoss player had a strong showing at MLG Raleigh and just qualified for GSL October Code A. The last player to be presented is none other than Fnatics power Terran Rain who lives in USA nowadays. He was the runner up of GSL Open Season 3 and have had strong showings at the last two MLGs.
The Chinese player Infi has unfortunately canceled his participation due to restructuring of TyLoo’s RTS division.
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Buy Tickets Now! Hundreds of European and Spanish eSports fans will have the possibility to attend the show live on-site. The tickets are available now! With the ticket you have access to event from from 14.00 to 23.00, meet your idols in fan meetings and attend the after-party. Tickets will be sold for 140 SEK, or €15, and available at bokning.dreamhack.se. Secure your ticket today, more players and information about the event will be released to you shortly.
1/9 - DongRaeGu, ThorZaIN + Apollo and TotalBiscuit
On the 17th of September DreamHack once again stands as host for a StarCraft II Invitational. This time in the beautiful Veles e Vents building located in the Valencia Street Formula1 Circuit and the 33rd America’s Cup harbour. Two more players can today be presented and also the two casters of the event that will guide us through the epic battles we have ahead.
DreamHack Valencia Invitational is less than three weeks away and four of the eight superstars have already been announced and it's time for two more players. As the 5th invited player DreamHack is proud to present the dreaded Korean Zerg Player DongRaeGu from compLexity.MVP who is the champion of LG Cinema 3D Special League and has had a very strong showing in GSTL and at MLGs. Our second Terran player for the tournament is no other than the TSL 3 Champion from Sweden, ThorZaIN. The Mousesport player is currently living in Korea to practice against the best and will most likely be lethal at Valencia Invitational.
The british duo of Apollo and TotalBiscuit to cast the games Shaun "Apollo" Clark has been with DreamHack StarCraft II since the start and is back yet with another caster who is no other than the very popular man in the hat John "TotalBiscuit" Bain. They were both casting DreamHack Summer 2011 but on different streams and we have seen over several tournaments that the combination is fantastic. DreamHack is proud to have Apollo and TotalBiscuit as commentators for DreamHack Valencia Invitational. The hosts for the show will be announced very soon, stay tuned..
On the 6th of September the two brothers LucifroN and Vortix will face off to compete for the spanish slot of the Tournament. They are both qualified for the DreamHack South Europe Regionals which is taking place during the same weekend 16-17 of September.
Buy Tickets Now! Hundreds of European and Spanish eSports fans will have the possibility to attend the show live on-site. The tickets are available now! With the ticket you have access to event from from 14.00 to 23.00, meet your idols in fan meetings and attend the after-party. Tickets will be sold for 140 SEK, or €15, and available at bokning.dreamhack.se. Secure your ticket today, more players and information about the event will be released to you shortly.
23/8 - IdrA and Infi to DreamHack Valencia Invitational + Show Spoiler +
The DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship: Valencia Invitational is getting closer by the minute and we can now present another two strong players that are invited to the beautiful Veles e Vents building located in the Valencia Street Formula1 Circuit and the 33rd America’s Cup harbour.
We have already presented the DreamHack Summer 2011 champion HuK from Team EG and the Swedish super player Naniwa from Team Dignitas, today we are very excited to invite Xuwen Wang more know as Infi from Team TyLoo. Infi is no stranger to competitions at the highest level and his greatest achievement to date is a gold medal in Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne at the grand finals of World Cyber Games 2009.
As player no 4 at DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship: Valencia Invitational we are proud to once again invite Idra to a DreamHack event. Idra is one of the most popular players in the world and we are sure that he will be one of the top contenders to take the title in Spain the 17th September.
The remaining four players will be revealed shortly…
THE STARS
Buy Tickets Now! Hundreds of European and Spanish eSports fans will have the possibility to attend the show live on-site. The tickets are available now! With the ticket you have access to event from from 14.00 to 23.00, meet your idols in fan meetings and attend the after-party. Tickets will be sold for 140 SEK, or €15, and available at bokning.dreamhack.se. Secure your ticket today, more players and information about the event will be released to you shortly.
8/8 - NaNiwa & HuK ready for DH Valencia Invitational + Show Spoiler +
DreamHack Valencia Invitational
Two of world’s best players invited to DreamHack Valencia Invitational 17th of September. MLG Dallas-champion Naniwa and DreamHack-champion HuK will attend the event and compete for the SEK 100 000 prize purse. Also, venue tickets, released today.
Stockholm Invitational was a huge success for eSports in Sweden. Event got best possible community feedback, mainstream media like national television, radio and print magazine covered the event and the tournament and tournament results were amazing with korean oGs MC grabbing the first spot and the SEK 100 000 on the line.
Two Protoss Champions attending the Event In September 17 we’re planning the next edition of DreamHack Invitational format where we’ll invite 8 of world’s greatest StarCraft II Gamers to compete in Valencia, Spain just next to Mediterranean sea. Today we’re announcing the first two invited players to the event.
It’s the 21-year old swede Johan ”NaNiwa” Lucchesi from Team Dignitas. MLG Dallas champion and ranked as the best player in Sweden right now. He will be joined by the DreamHack Summer 2011 champion Chris “HuK” Loranger, called “DreamHuk” after his latest DreamHack-event, but also a verbal 22-year old Canadian protoss-player and true fan favorite from Team Liquid. Tickets release today 18.00 CET Hundreds of European and Spanish eSports fans will have the possibility to attend the show live on-site. We are today releasing a limited number of tickets where you get a seat in the audience, access to event from from 14.00 to 23.00, meet your idols in fan meetings and attend the after-party. Tickets will be sold for 140 SEK, or €15, and available at bokning.dreamhack.se. Secure your ticket today, more players and information about the event will be released to you shortly.
DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship is a 5-event StarCraft 2 circuit organized by DreamHack and sponsored by SteelSeries, Sapphire, AMD and EIZO. Please visit our partners below:
22/7 - First player for DreamHack Valencia decides today + Show Spoiler +
In September DreamHack will host Valencia Invitational with 8 of world’s greatest players attending. Today we’re proud to reveal the first information and the first player to be announced today 22th of July in a Showmatch.
Valencia Invitational is still a By-Invite-Only event to please the audience on-site and millions of fans around the world that watch it live on livestream. DreamHack select players based on achievements but also popularity and earlier DreamHack participation.
Same format as Stockholm Invitational – one Spanish player Just like, Stockholm Invitational, we’ll have 8 players playing a single elimination bracket, starting 15.00 CET and Grand Finals 21.00 CET. All matches are played BO3, except the Grand Finals played in BO5. A slight difference from the Stockholm event will be that one tournament slot is reserved for a Spanish player.
- In order to provide the Spanish StarCraft 2 community some extra excitement we decided quite early in the process that we need one slot for the local community, says Tomas Hermansson, Head of eSports at DreamHack.
The Spanish player will be decided today, 22th of July, in a showmatch at 16.00 CET between the two best Spanish players Pedro “LucifroN” Moreno Duran and Juan ‘Vortix’ Moreno Duran. Both of them had a WarCraft 3 career before they started to play StarCraft 2, with LucifroN having the best international results, winning ESWC Asia Masters and runner-up at BlizzCon 2008
- They are brothers and they got the skill to upset the professional players in the Invitational tournament. Vortix play Zerg and Lucifron Terran and we have an interesting TvZ to look forward to, says Manuel Jiménez, Head Admin at Canales Corporativos, DreamHack’s local partner in Spain.
Everybody can watch the showmatch via livestream at www.dreamhack.es. Only Spanish commentators will be available.
In the upcoming weeks we’ll announce more and more information about Valencia Invitational, including invited players, commentators, tickets and streams.
Fan special for Swedish fans Until release, we have a fan special for all Swedish StarCraft 2-fans. The three first Swedish fans that book a flight ticket to Valencia for the event dates will receive a special treat from the DreamHack organizers. - Free entrance to the event - Special seat in the audience - VIP-dinner with Pro Player’s and DreamHack - Special goodies from DreamHack & Sponsors Send a copy of your flight ticket to fn@dreamhack.se
Tickets to the event will be released in the beginning of August. Find all necessary information at our Tournament page.
DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship is a 5-event StarCraft 2 circuit organized by DreamHack and sponsored by SteelSeries, Sapphire, AMD and EIZO. Please visit our partners below:
Today we are very excited to present that the fall season of DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship will kick off in Valencia, Spain with an invitational tournament. DreamHack will invite eight world class StarCraft II-players who will fight in a one-day tournament in the beautiful Veles e Vents building located in the Valencia Street Formula1 Circuit and the 33rd America’s Cup harbour.
-After the fantastic success with Stockholm Invitational and DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship at DreamHack Summer 2011 it feels amazing to kick start the fall season with Valencia Invitational. We can’t wait to welcome all StarCraft-fans to a DreamHack-event again, says Robert Ohlén, CEO of DreamHack.
DreamHack Sapphire AMD Championship: Valencia Invitational will feature a 100 000 SEK price purse, spots to the tournament season Grand Final at DreamHack Winter 2011, November 24-27, in Jönköping and will be completely covered by live streaming.
Valencia Invitational is arranged together with Canales Corporativos during the DreamHack regional finals for the Mediterranean countries 17th of September 2011. Regional Finals will not only be a Spanish celebration of games and digital culture but also a regional event open for Spanish, Portuguese, French and Italian gamers competing in Counter-Strike 1.6, StarCraft II and Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition.
Detailed information regarding tickets, players, live stream and schedule will be available on www.dreamhack.se shortly.
About DreamHack DreamHack is the World’s Largest Computer Festival. DreamHack’s roots and core is the LAN party, with the major events DreamHack Summer and Winter, where participants bring their own computers and connect to the Internet in a large local area network which basically BECOMES the Internet by sheer scale. DreamHack is also Sweden’s first consumer-oriented trade show / event / festival for computer games, game consoles and computers. The events are a platform for tournaments in eSports, knowledge and creative competitions, concerts by famous music artists, lectures by game developers and much more. Website: www.dreamhack.se
About Canales Corporativos Canales Corporativos a Spain based company specialising in developing strategies that connects the brands with their audience using, and understanding, the new tools available in digital media. Since 2009 Canales Corporativos is working hard to implement videogame concepts into communication strategies, pioneering the use of gamification and transmedia in Spain and developing DreamHack presence in Spain, and now throughout the Mediterranean Countries. Website: www.canalescorporativos.com
I really, really, really hope that DreamHack will get 2GD on a plane to Valencia to do the player interviews - just like the last DreamHack Invitational!
On July 09 2011 00:05 TheSilverfox wrote: I really, really, really hope that DreamHack will get 2GD on a plane to Valencia to do the player interviews - just like the last DreamHack Invitational!
On July 09 2011 00:41 Karakaxe wrote: Hmmm, now that I think about it... are there actually any Spanish sc2 pro gamers?
From the top of my head i can recall LucifroN (former WC3 pro) who previously played on Team FnaticMSI but now hes on team Aprender. Theres more solid Spanish players im sure but none of them on the top of the EU SC2 Tournament scene for now.
Best of luck to all players showing up in Valencia
for everyone wondering about the spanish scene, next week there will be the Campus Party tournament in valencia, you will be able to see what they are capable of ^^ luci, vortix, sajer, lolvsxd, zelotito to name a few are all very good players.
LucifroN needs to come back. I haven't seen a world class marine-SCV all-in for quite some time now.
Kidding! But that guy has a brilliant RTS mind and hopefully something in his life will spark his desire to go into esports again.
I want to go to Valencia! I'll probably spend my time eating nice tapas, enjoying the night life, looking at old buildings, checking out hotties at the beach and watching Valencia play at La Mastella instead of watching our favourite nerds play, but still, what a fantastic location! No disrespect for Sweden and their world class freezing winters but wow, Valencia is super nice.
Man would i love to see NesTea in this tournament. I think it's cool that Koreans travel around the world, but i'd say it would be cool to not always see the same faces.
On July 09 2011 00:05 TheSilverfox wrote: I really, really, really hope that DreamHack will get 2GD on a plane to Valencia to do the player interviews - just like the last DreamHack Invitational!
Shame that they can only invite 8. Nani+White Ra better make it.
Just no more than 3 toss. I may be toss, but I just hate seeing Protoss dominate tournies (like Homestory/DH/StarsWar). PvP sucks for one, and I like seeing some diversity.
Regardless, this looks like it'll be awesome. I know the last one was. ^^
The thing that makes me really excited about this event, i is that it takes the LAN out of sweden, and will probably solidify the Spanish scene, and maybe other countries as well
On July 09 2011 00:08 ptbl wrote: I would love to see Huk invited to the invitational. Let's see if he can win another dreamhack title .
They always invite the previous dreamhack winner......
they have only had one 8-man invitational tourney, and they didnt invite the previous regular dh winner then(naama), so there isnt really any patterns to follow.
Anyways looking forward to another sick tourney, that venue looks amazing!
On July 09 2011 12:48 mbr2321 wrote: The players I believe will be invited will be: 1. ThorZaIN 2. HuK 3. MarineKing 4. LosirA 5. MC 6. Moon 7. IdrA 8. WhiteRa
Hmm dont think they will have so many koreans. And maybe 1 spanish player for the fans?
On July 09 2011 12:48 mbr2321 wrote: The players I believe will be invited will be: 1. ThorZaIN 2. HuK 3. MarineKing 4. LosirA 5. MC 6. Moon 7. IdrA 8. WhiteRa
Hmm dont think they will have so many koreans. And maybe 1 spanish player for the fans?
so many people talking without knowing, stop dreaming, why do you spread bullshit if you do NOT know??? whats the point? top 2 of spain france portugal and italy, decided through different methods are the 8 players invited. top2 of this will be qualified for dh winter.
On July 09 2011 12:48 mbr2321 wrote: The players I believe will be invited will be: 1. ThorZaIN 2. HuK 3. MarineKing 4. LosirA 5. MC 6. Moon 7. IdrA 8. WhiteRa
On July 09 2011 12:48 mbr2321 wrote: The players I believe will be invited will be: 1. ThorZaIN 2. HuK 3. MarineKing 4. LosirA 5. MC 6. Moon 7. IdrA 8. WhiteRa
dont think 50% will be korean, maybe 2
On July 09 2011 16:46 Toxi78 wrote: so many people talking without knowing, stop dreaming, why do you spread bullshit if you do NOT know??? whats the point? top 2 of spain france portugal and italy, decided through different methods are the 8 players invited. top2 of this will be qualified for dh winter.
On July 09 2011 00:05 TheSilverfox wrote: I really, really, really hope that DreamHack will get 2GD on a plane to Valencia to do the player interviews - just like the last DreamHack Invitational!
And yes - this looks awesome as always DreamHack!
They need to get 2GD so he can bash MLG : PPP
So awesome, Dreamhack I luv you <3
Going by his recent tweets, he's probably gonna mock NASL this time :D
More dreamhack is always an amazing thing DH have found the formula when it comes to a killer event; i guess it comes with experience! Looking forward to the player invites but i wish there was a HoN tournament as well :p
On July 09 2011 16:46 Toxi78 wrote: so many people talking without knowing, stop dreaming, why do you spread bullshit if you do NOT know??? whats the point? top 2 of spain france portugal and italy, decided through different methods are the 8 players invited. top2 of this will be qualified for dh winter.
Wrong. This invitational is not the same as the DH Spanish qualifier which happens the day(s) before. There are no guaranteed Spanish players for this invitational as of yet.
Like I said, people seem to be confusing the regional DH qualifier with the Invitational. 2 different tournaments at the same venue.
This should have been clearer maybe:
Valencia Invitational is arranged together with Canales Corporativos during the DreamHack regional finals for the Mediterranean countries 17th of September 2011.
Just have patience for the 8 player names, no need to speculate your minds off
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
I think that those "qualified players" re in to play the regional finals that will take place the same day. The invitational think seems like a show off tourney to atract visitors and plaeyrs from all the world.
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
Lucifron is a well known player in TL. He was #3 in TL ELO in the beta. Then he was in fnatic and played some tournaments. He has a liquipedia page:
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
I think that those "qualified players" re in to play the regional finals that will take place the same day. The invitational think seems like a show off tourney to atract visitors and plaeyrs from all the world.
I think you are right, there are two tournaments:
- regional tourn: 2 best spanish, 2 best french, 2 best portugal, 2 best italian. - invitational: 8 pro players.
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
Vortix is Lucifron's brother I believe. They are the best spanish SC2 players around, and Lucifron was very good back in the beta and shortly thereafter (until he quit ). Vortix is good on the EU ladder, not sure if he has a WC3 background or anything tho~~
Regional Finals will not only be a Spanish celebration of games and digital culture but also a regional event open for Spanish, Portuguese, French and Italian gamers competing in Counter-Strike 1.6, StarCraft II and Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition.
Starcraft AND SSF4:AE?
it's like combining chocolate with bacon. WONDERFUL!
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
Vortix is Lucifron's brother I believe. They are the best spanish SC2 players around, and Lucifron was very good back in the beta and shortly thereafter (until he quit ). Vortix is good on the EU ladder, not sure if he has a WC3 background or anything tho~~
they are qualified for the regional finals not the dreamhack invitational. they might get invited though. and lucifron&vortix are not "unknown spanish" players, lucifron was top5 euro on wc3 at the end of it and won a major wc3 lan tournament with moon etc attending, he was top3 terran during the beta of sc2, and he has amazing ladder stats. vortix is his brother and is equally skilled they just do not attend a lot of tournaments because they arent full time.
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
Lucifron is a well known player in TL. He was #3 in TL ELO in the beta. Then he was in fnatic and played some tournaments. He has a liquipedia page:
Seems kinda odd that 2 kinda unknown Spanish player would get to play in this .
Sure we had Jinro, Morrow and SjoW in the Stockholm Invitational. But SjoW was a replacement for Boxer and all off these players are well known fantastic players.
Doesn't seem right. 1 Spanish guy i can understand, but now 25% of the player pool are is unknown mediocre?
I think that those "qualified players" re in to play the regional finals that will take place the same day. The invitational think seems like a show off tourney to atract visitors and plaeyrs from all the world.
I think you are right, there are two tournaments:
- regional tourn: 2 best spanish, 2 best french, 2 best portugal, 2 best italian. - invitational: 8 pro players.
That seems logical :D. I'm sure Lucifron is a good player, but i haven't seen him compete before so that's why he's kinda unknown for me ^^, i have heard his name before though.
What your saying seem very logical though. Looking forward to seeing the Invitational , The last Dreamhack invitational was awesome :D
On July 09 2011 07:22 Philo wrote: DH Stockholm Invitational was the best SC2 Lan ever sans MLG Columbus. Can't wait for this!
You mean the MLG columbus where we were given free HD because all the fuck ups from MLG, and a free HD that was like 360p with loud commercial breaks that went on for ages between every game? Not to mention they broadcast with a sattelite truck -.-' Maybe if you watch it live, but I was about to give up and do something else while watching MLG.
DH has never been that bad, and they always have free HQ streams (and yes HQ as in friggin High Quality), and awesome hosts and venues. This is going to kick ass.
On July 09 2011 00:41 Karakaxe wrote: Hmmm, now that I think about it... are there actually any Spanish sc2 pro gamers?
From the top of my head i can recall LucifroN (former WC3 pro) who previously played on Team FnaticMSI but now hes on team Aprender. Theres more solid Spanish players im sure but none of them on the top of the EU SC2 Tournament scene for now.
Best of luck to all players showing up in Valencia
Lucifron and Vortix, both brothers, are the best spanish sc2 players... both play ladder only and especially lucifron is like 1game/day, he was the 2nd best orc in wc3 (eu) after grubby and prolly sth like top 5 world orc, vortix a top 5 Undead in europe.
lucifron was great at beta since he played competetivly there, he doesnt atm.
Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
That's actually a very good statement.. Hmm... It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. They'll probably bring day9, and he'll be screaming excitedly and there'll be a mass of people who just happened to walk by and stand with blank faces. Yeah it's gonna be weird.
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
I do live in spain, and what you say is pretty much true exept for the farmers part. Playing vidiogames over 12years old is look down as childish .
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
I do live in spain, and what you say is pretty much true exept for the farmers part. Playing vidiogames over 12years old is look down as childish .
Im spanish and we are not farmers, we know english (at least the gamers), and as far as i know the sc comunity is pretty big. But it is true that our internet is not the best, but still decent i think. Its time now for the rest of the world to change their minds about spain.
btw i would love day9 casting here instead of any spanish caster, i have no problem hearing it in english, i watch GSL, NASL, DH, MLG, day9 daily, SotG, weapon of choice and all the streams in english so its fine with me.
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
I do live in spain, and what you say is pretty much true exept for the farmers part. Playing vidiogames over 12years old is look down as childish .
Im spanish and we are not farmers, we know english (at least the gamers), and as far as i know the sc comunity is pretty big. But it is true that our internet is not the best, but still decent i think. Its time now for the rest of the world to change their minds about spain.
btw i would love day9 casting here instead of any spanish caster, i have no problem hearing it in english, i watch GSL, NASL, DH, MLG, day9 daily, SotG, weapon of choice and all the streams in english so its fine with me.
If DreamHack thinks Valencia is a great location I'm just going to trust their judgement. In DreamHack I trust and the Spanish are a great bunch of people.
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
I do live in spain, and what you say is pretty much true exept for the farmers part. Playing vidiogames over 12years old is look down as childish .
Im spanish and we are not farmers, we know english (at least the gamers), and as far as i know the sc comunity is pretty big. But it is true that our internet is not the best, but still decent i think. Its time now for the rest of the world to change their minds about spain.
btw i would love day9 casting here instead of any spanish caster, i have no problem hearing it in english, i watch GSL, NASL, DH, MLG, day9 daily, SotG, weapon of choice and all the streams in english so its fine with me.
If DreamHack thinks Valencia is a great location I'm just going to trust their judgement. In DreamHack I trust and the Spanish are a great bunch of people.
We can only pray.. I just hope to god we don't get a Spanish caster on the international stream, or one of those friggin voice over dubbing voices LMAO. I recall when I was in Poland and was watching some American TV series, and they had a bored old Polish man doing the voices for everyone like buzzing over the original dialogue ^^
Ah well I trust that dreamhack will put on a good show for us ♥
I remember HasuObs talking about securing an invitation for "this great spanish tournament"during th ehomestory cup streaming. Should be the one he was talking about, right?
Hope the air conditioning is working fine. My experience with events in Valencia at that time of the year involves LOTS of heat :p But great tournament, 6 hours car drive, mhmmmm, need to get there.
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
so listening to you, spanish people are farmers with 56k internet connection with poor education that hate sc? do you actually live in spain, or where did you get so much info?
I do live in spain, and what you say is pretty much true exept for the farmers part. Playing vidiogames over 12years old is look down as childish .
english is fine with me.
You are not alone I rather listen in english, Im just too used. Talking about SC in spanish feels weird to me.
Saw on thorzain's Twitter that he just qualified for some tournament in Valencia. Correct me if im wrong, but, there can't really be more tournaments then this in Valencia?? Haha..
On July 11 2011 21:29 Kdog3wa wrote: Saw on thorzain's Twitter that he just qualified for some tournament in Valencia. Correct me if im wrong, but, there can't really be more tournaments then this in Valencia?? Haha..
it is a different tournament, thorizain is talking about campus party which is this weekend
On July 10 2011 07:46 HallBregg wrote: Spain is a wierd place to choose, bad internet connection, very few sc fans/players, plus most ppl doesn't understand english, so on-stage cast will have to be in spanish to get any kind of audience interaction, it will be awkward...
That's actually a very good statement.. Hmm... It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. They'll probably bring day9, and he'll be screaming excitedly and there'll be a mass of people who just happened to walk by and stand with blank faces. Yeah it's gonna be weird.
Don't worry. I'll try to fulfill the stereotype of a loud American to make up for it
Anyone remember the timeline of April's invitational? I wonder when we can expect to hear about the invites.
On July 11 2011 23:35 elow wrote: Not to be a b**ch about my city but SC2 players you are going to see this:
btw does any one know will there be at least 1 slot for spanish players?
I think there are 2? slots from a spanish qualifier.
Just to be clear, there will be 2 tournaments. The first one is a regional qualifier with 8 players, 2 spanish 2 portugal 2 italians and 2 french players. Those players have been qualified in they regional qualifiers. And then there is another 8 players tournament, completly invitational.
Hey guys I have some questions. First of all, how fast do I have to be to buy a ticket. I read they are being released at august 1. Second, when will be there more info about the invited players ? I may very well travel just to experience some first hand starcraft 2 atmosphere =) ...
On July 13 2011 02:18 lameLing wrote: Awesome! Hope husky and day9 will host the Event. Would be great to see them both casting!
Hope day[9] and dApollo casts it. No offense, but Husky should do his lolcasts.
Actually imo, Husky is way better as a caster than a Youtube lol caster, he did great at TSL and a tournament just before that (I belive it was the liquid showmatches). Though I whould prefer dApollo too, really like his style!
On July 13 2011 19:17 Holdinga wrote: Hey guys I have some questions. First of all, how fast do I have to be to buy a ticket. I read they are being released at august 1. Second, when will be there more info about the invited players ? I may very well travel just to experience some first hand starcraft 2 atmosphere =) ...
They sold out quite fast for the Stockholm Invitational, a lot of people wanted to go but couldn't. Of course it all depends on venue size and demand (esports is perhaps less popular down in Valencia), but I suggest getting them early.
Ok when can i get tickets ? I thought that Today they would release, but tickets got released for DH winter which is in november ? ... What about the competition in september
IF someone has any sort of Info please share it in this thead because i want to book tickets soon !
On July 13 2011 19:17 Holdinga wrote: Hey guys I have some questions. First of all, how fast do I have to be to buy a ticket. I read they are being released at august 1. Second, when will be there more info about the invited players ? I may very well travel just to experience some first hand starcraft 2 atmosphere =) ...
They sold out quite fast for the Stockholm Invitational, a lot of people wanted to go but couldn't. Of course it all depends on venue size and demand (esports is perhaps less popular down in Valencia), but I suggest getting them early.
eSports in Spain? What's that?
You can probably get tickets on the day itself heh
Trying to buy a ticket but I have not received a verification email. Also will there be a seating map to choose seats like I'm seeing for the other Dreamhack event?
I felt the need to post something somewhere, and this post is the perfect place for me to drop a meaningless and completely deprived of content and interest statement like "This is awesome!"
3:21 : Man with the mic : It's now the end of summer's holydays, you've got a tournament in Valencia soon, who do you think you'll gonna meet there, and what do you expect do to? Stephano : I accepted the invitation just a week ago, i don't know who will be there, exept HuK.
So....Is there two tournaments with HuK in Valencia soon? :D
Awesome tournament and line-up so far ! I'll try to get there.
Will there be english or spanish commentary? I'm spanish but, if they bring any good english commentator, that would be amazing lol. Even tho i don't know if much people would understand =(.
On August 25 2011 20:44 Infernux wrote: When is this invitational, I'm trying to find a date, but the DH pages are really messy when it comes to dates : o
Trying to find a date too, cant seem to find one though =(
On August 25 2011 20:44 Infernux wrote: When is this invitational, I'm trying to find a date, but the DH pages are really messy when it comes to dates : o
Trying to find a date too, cant seem to find one though =(
This Trailer...OMG...you guys really know what you are doing. Last Invitational is still the best SC2 tournament that has been held so far. I am very curious what you have in the quiver for us : )))
I've been trying to buy my ticket for weeks now, but can never get past the registration process. It keeps saying that I will receive a confirmation email, which I never receive.
On August 26 2011 03:13 moose162 wrote: I've been trying to buy my ticket for weeks now, but can never get past the registration process. It keeps saying that I will receive a confirmation email, which I never receive.
Contact the support instead of posting on a forum maybe?
On August 26 2011 06:33 labbe wrote: Dreamhack = Best tournament organizers in the west. And best of all: Their streams are always free all the way, no HD Pass bullshit.
yes and sweden is the best country in the world.rest sucks. seriously:DH just started to expand to spain where IEM already is a big global established series. but give me some days of work and i could make such a video as well XD
On August 26 2011 06:33 labbe wrote: Dreamhack = Best tournament organizers in the west. And best of all: Their streams are always free all the way, no HD Pass bullshit.
yes and sweden is the best country in the world.rest sucks. but give me some days of work and i could make such a video as well XD
On August 26 2011 06:33 labbe wrote: Dreamhack = Best tournament organizers in the west. And best of all: Their streams are always free all the way, no HD Pass bullshit.
yes and sweden is the best country in the world.rest sucks. seriously:DH just started to expand to spain where IEM already is a big global established series. but give me some days of work and i could make such a video as well XD
LOL! Where did you come from? I never even mentioned Sweden in my post, so don't what you are talking about. Also, I think Dreamhack has better production-quality than IEM, never said anything about how "big" they are.
Why isn't there any detailed info ANYWHERE on the Dreamhack website detailing how to get to the event location? No map, nothing... I'm very interested in attending and just spent almost an hour searching for more information.
Also, the website keeps switching from English back to Swedish and some pages just have bits in Swedish even if it's set to English -.-
These are areas that could definitely be improved upon.
Does anybody know yet who will be commenting? On the Dreamhack site there's an interview with somebody called xFera, but I'd really like to know whether we can count on some of the more known commentators (Totalbiscuit, dApollo from Europe, or even better some of the Tastosis magic flying in).
On August 28 2011 02:09 Entroph wrote: Why isn't there any detailed info ANYWHERE on the Dreamhack website detailing how to get to the event location? No map, nothing... I'm very interested in attending and just spent almost an hour searching for more information.
Also, the website keeps switching from English back to Swedish and some pages just have bits in Swedish even if it's set to English -.-
These are areas that could definitely be improved upon.
I've found myself in the same situation. There is hardly any information about this event in the web and I think they won't change that at all, considering that there is less than a month left.
On August 28 2011 02:09 Entroph wrote: Why isn't there any detailed info ANYWHERE on the Dreamhack website detailing how to get to the event location? No map, nothing... I'm very interested in attending and just spent almost an hour searching for more information.
Also, the website keeps switching from English back to Swedish and some pages just have bits in Swedish even if it's set to English -.-
These are areas that could definitely be improved upon.
On August 28 2011 02:09 Entroph wrote: Why isn't there any detailed info ANYWHERE on the Dreamhack website detailing how to get to the event location? No map, nothing... I'm very interested in attending and just spent almost an hour searching for more information.
Also, the website keeps switching from English back to Swedish and some pages just have bits in Swedish even if it's set to English -.-
These are areas that could definitely be improved upon.
I've found myself in the same situation. There is hardly any information about this event in the web and I think they won't change that at all, considering that there is less than a month left.
I can't even register an account to purchase a ticket, despite trying for over a month, and contacting them with no response.
On September 01 2011 19:50 smallerk wrote: no Liquid players yet, i foresee RET being one of the 2 invites left.
Hmm not so sure. Its said that one player is gonna be Spanish(Maybe they changed their mind?). So then its 1 player left i think it will go to White-Ra since he is really popular among the community and the DH people.
I got my voucher for the tournament. There is no specific seats, right? so if a friend buys one we can sit together? It says This voucher gives the holder the right to collect: 1 pcs DreamHack Valencia Invitational ... Did I buy the correct thing ? ... ?
If they are to invite a Spanish player after watching bits of the latest i-series even Stareagle would be a great addition, if thats not the case Ret has been on a tear lately so an invite for him would be great
1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
On September 01 2011 22:19 paradoxOO9 wrote: If they are to invite a Spanish player after watching bits of the latest i-series even Stareagle would be a great addition, if thats not the case Ret has been on a tear lately so an invite for him would be great
On September 01 2011 22:19 paradoxOO9 wrote: If they are to invite a Spanish player after watching bits of the latest i-series even Stareagle would be a great addition, if thats not the case Ret has been on a tear lately so an invite for him would be great
On September 01 2011 21:43 Randulfr wrote: Sucks the casters are terrible. Actaully wanted to watch this
Apollo has been casting litteraly every DH event so far, what did you expect? Just mute the stream if you for whatever reason can't listen to them. But yeah, most people watch tournaments to see the players. Too bad for you I guess.
Personally I think Apollo and TB are one of the most entertaining and professional casting duos out there. To me they bring as much to this event as the players themselves (this balance might change if they get like MVP/Nestea ofc, but you get my point)
For those who don't understand French he says that he accepted to play in the tournament one week ago and he does not know who will be there besides huk.
For those who don't understand French he says that he accepted to play in the tournament one week ago and he does not know who will be there besides huk.
So Stephano + Spanish player (probably Lucifron). How can they not invite the reigning champion?
For those who don't understand French he says that he accepted to play in the tournament one week ago and he does not know who will be there besides huk.
So Stephano + Spanish player (probably Lucifron). How can they not invite the reigning champion?
Maybe MC didn't want to go?
I don't really feel like watching a repeat of the last tournament, so I would be glad if he's out.
On September 01 2011 22:34 ForlornHope wrote: 1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
Mana better then naniwa? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
i would like to see mana beat naniwa in a pvp. Naniwa is better then moth huk and mc on pvp...
On September 01 2011 22:34 ForlornHope wrote: 1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
Mana better then naniwa? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
i would like to see mana beat naniwa in a pvp. Naniwa is better then moth huk and mc on pvp...
No he's not... Both MC and Huk have winning records vs Naniwa and MC's pvp record in korea and international record is far superior to Naniwa's. You are being absolutely absurd. Naniwa would probably lose to mana, he certainly wouldn't 3-0 him.
Is it still the same prize distribution? Because dreamhack invitationnal was awesome, but the prizepool distribution was stupid as hell ( 10 000 euros for first, nothing for the rest :s ).
For those who don't understand French he says that he accepted to play in the tournament one week ago and he does not know who will be there besides huk.
So Stephano + Spanish player (probably Lucifron). How can they not invite the reigning champion?
Since I saw Lucifron play last week I'm trying to find VOD's of his play, he is underrated as hell, it'd be truly amazing if he was invited.
*sighs* It is impossible to know who between Mana or Naniwa is better now unless they played multiple b07's over several days or weeks. Each player has a distinct style that works for them and each also have varying degrees of success with said style vs different opponents. Mana took no games off MC at Iem while Naniwa did at hsc 3, on the other hand Mana beat sase in group stage at iem while Nani fell to him back in may during the road to Korea tournament finals. Both players have beaten Socke who is in and of himself formidable and both have recently lost to Sjow.
Even if we could come up with enough data to determine which of them was better than the other it would only be relevant to that exact match. Consistency in pvp in general and in other matchups also has to go into account when judging a player's overall skill. Elo puts Mana at 3( with 2238) and Nani at 39( with 2235), Tlpd shows Mana with a 55% overall winrate and nani with a 65%. None of this matters however because tournaments invite people based on whatever criteria they want. We can analyze and argue all day but none of it changes the facts on who was invited and who wasn't, nor can we ever know why.
Back on topic; I am eager to have the last two invites confirmed ( Gogo Lucifron please make it) and how the brackets will break down. More than anything I think having adequate time to prepare for your first opponent is going to be important for this tournament what with it being single elimination. From there everyone will just have to wing it lol
On September 01 2011 22:34 ForlornHope wrote: 1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
Mana better then naniwa? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
i would like to see mana beat naniwa in a pvp. Naniwa is better then moth huk and mc on pvp...
Mana 2-1 Huk 2-0 Nada 2-0 Thorzain 2-0 Puma 2-0 Sase 2-0 Stephano
On September 01 2011 22:34 ForlornHope wrote: 1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
Mana better then naniwa? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
i would like to see mana beat naniwa in a pvp. Naniwa is better then moth huk and mc on pvp...
Mana 2-1 Huk 2-0 Nada 2-0 Thorzain 2-0 Puma 2-0 Sase 2-0 Stephano
On September 07 2011 21:40 Flix wrote: Funny I just saw this snippet from the official Dreamhak page:
"All of DreamHack’s festivals are alcohol and drug free..."
Umm, in Spain no beer = no one... Trust me I lived there for 3 years... They sell beer at McDonald's.
Thought that was funny.
there is time to drink and time to watch games. I love party and going out, and im travelling 4 hours to watch a whole day of SC. Nerds don't need to drink to have fun, with that lineup and great games is enough
On September 01 2011 22:34 ForlornHope wrote: 1 for China 2 for NA ( which i think Select should have had Idra s'spot) , 2 for EU ( Although Mana is better NaNiWa but still Thorzain and Nani is a great pick nonetheless) , 2 for Korea ( DRG and Someone) and 1 for Asia ( Sen most likely)
Mana better then naniwa? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
i would like to see mana beat naniwa in a pvp. Naniwa is better then moth huk and mc on pvp...
Mana 2-1 Huk 2-0 Nada 2-0 Thorzain 2-0 Puma 2-0 Sase 2-0 Stephano
Kid be sick
And LucifroN 2-0'd him a couple weeks ago. Haters gonna hate.
On September 07 2011 21:40 Flix wrote: Funny I just saw this snippet from the official Dreamhak page:
"All of DreamHack’s festivals are alcohol and drug free..."
Umm, in Spain no beer = no one... Trust me I lived there for 3 years... They sell beer at McDonald's.
Thought that was funny.
Wait wait, they don't sell beer on belgian MCDonals? Well, here is the thing, here we have the tradition to eat drinking beer or win and surprinsingly enough it is quite healthy.
the video is awesome. never seen such detailed SCII units visualized in a movie-like situation. these 3-D models from in-game cinematics are just amazing. also liked this pseudo-documentary filming, the "rec" in the up right corner reminds me of the pseudo-documentary horror film of the same name (made in spain btw =)) must be a very nice event!
For a little "public viewing" event we are planning it would be very useful to know how long the sc2 tournament is going to last. Or at least what the expected times are. =)
On September 12 2011 17:29 quan wrote: For a little "public viewing" event we are planning it would be very useful to know how long the sc2 tournament is going to last. Or at least what the expected times are. =)
thx quan
then read the op, its this saturday from 15:00 to 23:00
confirmed, the invitational will be broadcasted in Canal + Extra in Hd with coverage on the whole event, interviews, and the games will be casted in Spanish in an 8 hour program.. I will watch live but I will record it, and having E-sports on national Tv is pretty huge I think
The news is only in spanish, I can translate if anyone wants but it doesnt really say anything asides
well, first, the channel is in a satellite platform which costs money, and not everyone has it.
Then, the Extra channel (as in its name, Canal + Extra) is what you could call an "alternative" channel, its quite new, and has a huge variety of content, such as stand up comedy, independent films, music festivals, some HBO shows... and now E-sports....
so you cant really give an estimate for the viwers in any way as this channel, as the content is too spread out, but Canal + (the main channel) is what you could call the HBO of spain, and if they promote it in the other Canal * channels then a ton of people could watch or at least hear about the event.
On September 13 2011 00:33 Matkap wrote: confirmed, the invitational will be broadcasted in Canal + Extra in Hd with coverage on the whole event, interviews, and the games will be casted in Spanish in an 8 hour program.. I will watch live but I will record it, and having E-sports on national Tv is pretty huge I think
The news is only in spanish, I can translate if anyone wants but it doesnt really say anything asides
best tournament there is in starcraft, why? because it's free HD stream, they dont screw around with commercials that are 30mins long either like the crappy mlg
On September 13 2011 21:58 Granter wrote: best tournament there is in starcraft, why? because it's free HD stream, they dont screw around with commercials that are 30mins long either like the crappy mlg
A few measely Euros for a HD stream is not a big deal. Dreamhack put on great tournament with great players and production values, but they have a lot to learn from MLG about the importance of atmosphere and crowd interaction.
On September 13 2011 21:58 Granter wrote: best tournament there is in starcraft, why? because it's free HD stream, they dont screw around with commercials that are 30mins long either like the crappy mlg
A few measely Euros for a HD stream is not a big deal. Dreamhack put on great tournament with great players and production values, but they have a lot to learn from MLG about the importance of atmosphere and crowd interaction.
I guess you didnt watch the invitational in stockholm but I agree if you mean DH winter/summer
On September 14 2011 00:41 OPeixe wrote: This is going to be awesome and luckyly will spread E-Sports in Spain. Does any1 know if the plus.es spanish stream will be in 720p?
Well, it should be somewhere on this site. http://www.dreamhack.es/ Otherwise I don't know. EDIT: Found this on the webpage: La retransmisión podrá verse en español, en alta definición y en exclusiva en Canal+ Xtra para los abonados y en plus.es sin coste alguno. I don't speak spanish but I think this is what you are after.
http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/2011/09/13/valencia-match-ups/ They say that the English stream will be in 720p in dreamhack.tv they just don't say it for the other two streams, I love TB and Apollo but I would really like to follow the Spanish stream for this one.
Thanks for the schedule. Almost had a heart attack from reading it will take place on Friday (normal people need to work on a Friday and I have late shift :/).
On September 14 2011 00:50 obsKura wrote: Thanks for the schedule. Almost had a heart attack from reading it will take place on Friday (normal people need to work on a Friday and I have late shift :/).
On September 14 2011 05:37 sjschmidt93 wrote: This has the same problem NASL had -- 4 guys are going to go over there and perhaps play 2 or 3 games and be done.
I don't really see that as a problem since in NASL, all the players had to play for several (?) months to qualify for the finals. That meant that you have to put in a lot of effort to be able to go NY and then you may only get to play a few games.
Now however, all players are invited. They are automatically top eight without playing a game. Why wouldn't you wanna get a chance like that for free?
On September 14 2011 05:37 sjschmidt93 wrote: This has the same problem NASL had -- 4 guys are going to go over there and perhaps play 2 or 3 games and be done.
On September 14 2011 05:37 sjschmidt93 wrote: This has the same problem NASL had -- 4 guys are going to go over there and perhaps play 2 or 3 games and be done.
I think you may have not seen the previous DH invitational. It's not just "play 2-3 games and leave" there's a lot in between them, it's a lot about the hosts and the player's reactions and opinions. MC was a star in the last invitational, and the whole "White-Ra - He Cares" thing just blew me out laughing. It's not just the tournament.
Horray for 2GD! Best player interviews to date. Oh, and also an amazing tournament that left even the casters and players speechless (see last SOTG)...
This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
I've looked all over but I can only seem to find pictures of the outside of the building where the event is held. Does anyone know how big the space will be, seen any pictures or perhaps if it will be outside? Looks rather small from the outside.
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
Seems you where living under a rock. Stephano, Nerchio and Dimaga are the 3 premier european zergs atm (you could count ret with them also), with all of them having pretty great results the last 2 months.
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
Seems you where living under a rock. Stephano, Nerchio and Dimaga are the 3 premier european zergs atm (you could count ret with them also), with all of them having pretty great results the last 2 months.
Yeah but the thing is none of em can get 20k+ viewers if they put up a stream which idrA can, so even if idrA isn't the best player out there he's still very popular and will probably grant more viewers to the stream
On September 14 2011 22:48 sitromit wrote: I can't believe this is bo3 all the way and only bo5 for the finals... Why not bo5 for semis and bo7 for finals?
I think the answer is quite simple. They want to do it in 1 day and they don't want it to take >12 hours.
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
Dimaga, Nerchio and Stephano say hello...
tbh I don't know if I'd consider Nerchio or Stephano on Idra's level yet. Yes at the moment they're playing better but throughout the entirety of SC2 as far as I know Idra has outperformed both of them.
I feel bad about leaving out Dimaga (and Ret to a certain extent)
On September 14 2011 23:31 Elem wrote: Stephano is way over IdrA's current level, easily. Nerchio I dunno, he hasnt been as impressive imo. Can't base people on past glory.
Edit: Unless you are the Emperor.
Nerchio has grabbed plenty of impressive victories, just last week he took out ZenexYong in the TL Open, ending the streak of Korean dominance of that tournament, not to mention everyone he beat in IPL2. Nerchio is a monster.
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
? Nerchio, Stephano, Dimaga, Darkforce... If it hasn't to be a Zerg there are tons of names...
Well, Idra's recent results just weren't good so I and many others doubt him. Eventually we are wrong, we will see... I mean the last big thing he won was an MLG (whiteout Koreans, whiteout many EU's, whiteout any significance today) and IPL1 (which wasn't big and NA only)?
ok ryo APSC2 manager and lucifron brother say that friday will be played DH South European Regional qualifier and the winner get a dh winter,and will play lucifron,lolvsxd(spain),SarenS (terran france), StarEagle (terran italy) y sYz (zerg portugual),
and saturday at 14:00 . DH Valencia Invitational with DRG,idra....
On September 14 2011 05:37 sjschmidt93 wrote: This has the same problem NASL had -- 4 guys are going to go over there and perhaps play 2 or 3 games and be done.
Dreamhack treats them like kings while they are there, paying for hotels and takes all the players to dinner and all. So I think the players see it as a vacation to Spain with the chance of winning 100k SEK in a 8player tournament.
I think Lucifron will end up surprising quite a few people. He recently 3-0'd Nerchio in the finals of some online tournament, and after checking the replays, he played very solid.
On September 14 2011 23:31 Elem wrote: Stephano is way over IdrA's current level, easily. Nerchio I dunno, he hasnt been as impressive imo. Can't base people on past glory.
Edit: Unless you are the Emperor.
Nerchio has grabbed plenty of impressive victories, just last week he took out ZenexYong in the TL Open, ending the streak of Korean dominance of that tournament, not to mention everyone he beat in IPL2. Nerchio is a monster.
Nerchio is good, sure. But I personally at least do not rate online performance as high as offline, especially broadcasted ones. He got stomped pretty badly @ EU invitational too. :/
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
Dimaga, Nerchio and Stephano say hello...
Nerchio and Stephano need to prove it an LAN before they can be declared best foreign anything.
Stephano had a reasonable Assembly taking third but Nerchio has no notable offline results.
At this point Sen, Ret, Dimaga, Idra and Morrow should all be rated ahead of them.
What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
b/c Toss is very vulnerable to Terran atm in just about every way
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
b/c Toss is very vulnerable to Terran atm in just about every way
And Thorzain was already quite strong TvP before he went to Korea. Can't wait to see how strong it is now!
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
b/c Toss is very vulnerable to Terran atm in just about every way
And Thorzain was already quite strong TvP before he went to Korea. Can't wait to see how strong it is now!
So you think Thorzain has a small uppder hand then just because of the matchup, not based on individual skill I guess..Any insight to Rain vs Naniwa ? Odds seem to make it 50-50, but I'd be glad to hear your thoughts Thanks.
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
LOL? Ever saw a TvP by ThorZain? Neither HuK or NaNi can beat ThorZain in a TvP, NO CHANCE! I'm betting for a ThorZain vs DRG Finale.
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
b/c Toss is very vulnerable to Terran atm in just about every way
And Thorzain was already quite strong TvP before he went to Korea. Can't wait to see how strong it is now!
So you think Thorzain has a small uppder hand then just because of the matchup, not based on individual skill I guess..Any insight to Rain vs Naniwa ? Odds seem to make it 50-50, but I'd be glad to hear your thoughts Thanks.
Thorzain is probably just as skilled as HuK tbh now that he has had a short trip to Korea and been at the SlayerS house. The matchup is just a bonus IMO.
As for Rain vs NaNi, I dunno. Last time he only lucked out with the whole nuke scenario with sound being cancelled out, NaNi was quite dominant when they faced at MLG.
Though you never know. In TvP even if the Terran is an "inferior" player there will still be 1/1/1. Dunno if Rain would pull that out though, he seems to be deeply in love with heavy early ghost play in TvP.
I think it will be a Thorzain vs DRG finals. Thorzains vP is beastly and protosses seem to be struggling a lot in that matchup lately too. DRG is probably the best player in the tournament so he will make the finals I think. It´s really hard to call though.
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
LOL? Ever saw a TvP by ThorZain? Neither HuK or NaNi can beat ThorZain in a TvP, NO CHANCE! I'm betting for a ThorZain vs DRG Finale.
Nani did beat Thorzain in the EU B.Net invitational, the last time they met.
On September 14 2011 20:49 setmeal wrote: This is really sweet!! Plenty of good players. I wish they would replace Idra though. His skill seems to be dropping ridiculously low after he left Korea. Hopefully, he will improve again after he stays with Puma.
and who should replace him? with more skill i guess
Although I disagree with replacing idra, if it were to happen foreign zergs at or above his caliber include... well Sheth, Sen, and morrow unless EU has some god zerg I don't know about
Dimaga, Nerchio and Stephano say hello...
Nerchio and Stephano need to prove it an LAN before they can be declared best foreign anything.
Stephano had a reasonable Assembly taking third but Nerchio has no notable offline results.
At this point Sen, Ret, Dimaga, Idra and Morrow should all be rated ahead of them.
bla bla bla.
idra would go like 30% wins vs stephano/nerchio, nerchio at least beat white-ra @ blizzard invitational 2-0. they are young and need a bit of time to show their performance on Lan.
Uhm.. Im getting alittle bit worried here. It looks like the touranment area can hold like 50 people tops, by the looks of the pictures in that album? :S
On September 16 2011 05:39 WhiteraCares wrote: Uhm.. Im getting alittle bit worried here. It looks like the touranment area can hold like 50 people tops, by the looks of the pictures in that album? :S
On September 16 2011 05:39 WhiteraCares wrote: Uhm.. Im getting alittle bit worried here. It looks like the touranment area can hold like 50 people tops, by the looks of the pictures in that album? :S
300 seats. From a spanish perspective, huge event xD
Will the vods be up on the same day? I've noticed it's on JTV, so will we be able to watch the recorded footage like you can do with other JTV streams? I don't think I'll be around tomorrow evening to watch all of this, which really suck ;-;
Im going for my cute little (deceptively tall) spoon terran to win the whole. I want to see how baller he has gotten from the hyperbolic time chamber of korea.
although, it sucks that im a big fan of all of these players minus lucifron...
On September 16 2011 07:25 Raimu wrote: Will the vods be up on the same day? I've noticed it's on JTV, so will we be able to watch the recorded footage like you can do with other JTV streams? I don't think I'll be around tomorrow evening to watch all of this, which really suck ;-;
I don't know if they had any VODs other than the JTV stuff last time, but I could be wrong.
On September 15 2011 01:53 leltsu wrote: What do you guys think of the matchups ? According to a large online bookie HuK is an underdog against Thorzain. I personally don't see why. Any input ?
b/c Toss is very vulnerable to Terran atm in just about every way
And Thorzain was already quite strong TvP before he went to Korea. Can't wait to see how strong it is now!
So you think Thorzain has a small uppder hand then just because of the matchup, not based on individual skill I guess..Any insight to Rain vs Naniwa ? Odds seem to make it 50-50, but I'd be glad to hear your thoughts Thanks.
Thorzain is probably just as skilled as HuK tbh now that he has had a short trip to Korea and been at the SlayerS house. The matchup is just a bonus IMO.
As for Rain vs NaNi, I dunno. Last time he only lucked out with the whole nuke scenario with sound being cancelled out, NaNi was quite dominant when they faced at MLG.
Though you never know. In TvP even if the Terran is an "inferior" player there will still be 1/1/1. Dunno if Rain would pull that out though, he seems to be deeply in love with heavy early ghost play in TvP.
any information on a stream for the regionals? They will be played today and Sarens, sYz and Lucifron are playing and i can't find any information on a stream for this
On September 16 2011 21:12 TArujo wrote: any information on a stream for the regionals? They will be played today and Sarens, sYz and Lucifron are playing and i can't find any information on a stream for this
On September 16 2011 21:12 TArujo wrote: any information on a stream for the regionals? They will be played today and Sarens, sYz and Lucifron are playing and i can't find any information on a stream for this
Should be some local laungage streams, perhaps not by dreamhak themself. They usually let other people stream if they want.
Sad if people should miss out on the action going on today.
Does anyone know when the streaming starts? it says like in 21hrs on the event list but that can't be right cuz it should start on the 16th? or am I totally wrong?
On September 16 2011 23:33 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: Does anyone know when the streaming starts? it says like in 21hrs on the event list but that can't be right cuz it should start on the 16th? or am I totally wrong?
The calender is correct.
Today is".. the Regional Finals in Counter-Strike 1.6, StarCraft 2 and Super Street Fighter IV where the best players from Spain, Portugal, France and Italy will battle it out to determine the Regional DreamHack-champions 2011 and also qualify for the Grand Finals at DreamHack Winter 2011."
On September 16 2011 23:33 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: Does anyone know when the streaming starts? it says like in 21hrs on the event list but that can't be right cuz it should start on the 16th? or am I totally wrong?
The calender is correct.
Today is".. the Regional Finals in Counter-Strike 1.6, StarCraft 2 and Super Street Fighter IV where the best players from Spain, Portugal, France and Italy will battle it out to determine the Regional DreamHack-champions 2011 and also qualify for the Grand Finals at DreamHack Winter 2011."
On September 17 2011 00:51 integrity wrote: wait so im confused is the event today on friday 16th or is it tomorrow like the TL calender says?
today you have the DreamHack on Tour 2011 wich will qualify 1 player for dreamhack winter from 4 countrys (portugal spain italy and france) tomorrow you will have the invitational
At http://www.dreamhack.es/dreamhack-live/ there are live streams of Street Fighter and CS, no info on the SC2 regionals though, should have started by now.
Schedule / Match-ups 17th of September: 15.00 Round of 8 EG HuK (Protoss) vs. Mouz Thorzain (Terran) 16.00 Round of 8 Liquid`HerO (Protoss) vs. EG IdrA (Zerg) 17.00 Round of 8 Fnatic Rain (Terran) vs. Dignitas NaNiwa (Protoss) 18.00 Round of 8 MVP.coL.DongRaeGu (Zerg) vs. APSC2 LucifroN (Terran) 19.00 Semifinal #1 TBA 20.00 Semifinal #2 TBA 21.00 Grand Final TBA
I've found it quite clear that no games are played today.
On September 17 2011 03:31 Chenz wrote: Schedule / Match-ups 17th of September: 15.00 Round of 8 EG HuK (Protoss) vs. Mouz Thorzain (Terran) 16.00 Round of 8 Liquid`HerO (Protoss) vs. EG IdrA (Zerg) 17.00 Round of 8 Fnatic Rain (Terran) vs. Dignitas NaNiwa (Protoss) 18.00 Round of 8 MVP.coL.DongRaeGu (Zerg) vs. APSC2 LucifroN (Terran) 19.00 Semifinal #1 TBA 20.00 Semifinal #2 TBA 21.00 Grand Final TBA
I've found it quite clear that no games are played today.
Go watch the Regionals they are being played right now
On September 17 2011 00:51 integrity wrote: wait so im confused is the event today on friday 16th or is it tomorrow like the TL calender says?
The invitational is the saturday 17th, that is, tomorrow. But today was when the Dreamhack started, and Sc2, CS 1.6 and SF regionals were being played.
Tomorrow from 11:00 at Spain will be the finals for the regional of Sc2, and then at 15:00h the invitational will be started (Spain hour too).
On September 17 2011 04:45 GizmoPT wrote: lol syz said he could hear the commentators and they are commenting in spanish and lucifron is spanish and is there very nice ;x
I don't know any spanish but the commentators said something like: "mutas harras al terran" and then 5sec later terran put up 4turrets...
Hope the players can't hear anything when they play tomorrow...
I'm so incredibly pumped for this event! DreamHack always puts on a great show and the matchups are amazing. Unfortunately, I already have plans, so I won't be able to watch it live in its entirety. But I'll make sure to check out the vods later as soon as they become available.
On September 17 2011 04:45 GizmoPT wrote: lol syz said he could hear the commentators and they are commenting in spanish and lucifron is spanish and is there very nice ;x
I don't know any spanish but the commentators said something like: "mutas harras al terran" and then 5sec later terran put up 4turrets...
Hope the players can't hear anything when they play tomorrow...
yes that and at the start of the game going back with the marines for no reason
Turns out the swedish stream costs 1SEK to watch. About 0.1 Euro, but still. I'd rather watch the english stream for free with more experienced commentators.
oh sigh.. for the longest time the TL calender said 0500 PST but i guess they changed it to 0600 PST sometime recently. Wish I went to bed early.... eh.
Eh it says the Swedish stream costs 1kr (for an account on that website) and thereafter 29k monthly. Will I be able to shut down the account after DH Valencia? Or will it keep on draining my bank account?
NO, I can't watch Justin.tv because I live in China where the government likes to block good websites. Also, no, my proxy can't run justin.tv for some reason (if u have one that does, please send link!!).
God damnit, the Aftonbladet stream started lagging.
On September 17 2011 21:22 borny wrote: Eh it says the Swedish stream costs 1kr (for an account on that website) and thereafter 29k monthly. Will I be able to shut down the account after DH Valencia? Or will it keep on draining my bank account? .
Unfortunately it does. But you can cancel it instantly after buying. Just click on "Min Sida" then "Avsluta" next to where it says Aftonbladet Plus.
Aftonbladets interviewer is actually doing quite a good job with the Nani/Thorzain interview. Good stuff. He knows his stuff and asks relevant questions.
wow.. e-sports seem stuck in the middle ages when it comes to women :/
dont get me wrong, i find 2gd pretty funny.. but what has it been, like 10 jokes concerning the fact that his co host is a woman? the fact that she seems to know nothing about the game doesnt make it better either
Will there be any VODs from this tournament? Was there from Stockholm invitationals? I wont be able to see the games today but I really wanna see them T_T
EPT
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but maybe that's just me^^
Geoff wants in and to travel to Europe, and to be honest Valencia F1 track you and Anna will love it if you get invited 
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