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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18481
On July 09 2011 13:18 DeathSquire36 wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:17 Fionn wrote:
It's been 10 hours since the broadcast started and six Bo3's have been played.

I don't know if I'm impressed by how long they've stretched this out or annoyed.

Annoyed.

i think they've played about 14 games in 10 hours
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 04:19:56
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18482
On July 09 2011 13:16 StyLeD wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:15 Executor1 wrote:
LOL wtf is tastless talking about, zerg shouldnt win in the late game against terran? Am i tripping? i dont even play zerg or terran but zerg lategame seems much much stronger than terran late game at the moment, corrupter infestor broodlord seems really op right now so much so that blizzard says they are looking at it for the late game in the ZVT matchup.

I guess tasteless is just trying to give mmore credibility to darkforce for beating a korean with a strat like that (not taking anything away from darkforce he played great) but lets be honest that shit is pretty fuckign difficult to deal with as terran even with every single unit at your disposal and an unlimited income (wich alive didnt have)

this is what happens when you actually listen to tasteless' filler analysis. Just listen to his jokes and his support casting lol ;P

yea no kidding , recently ive been face palming alot more at some of the stuff he says.

I think the biggest facepalm was when a couple months ago neither tasteless or artosis knew that it was standard to get armor first in PVT, they were going "what is this? , is there a reason hes getting armor first"

Then within a week they were going "you have to get armor first against terran its sooo goodd"

dont get me wrong they are my favourite casters, but sometimes....
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18483
4.20PM

:D
aNDRoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States637 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18484
Waiting for the Handsome Nerd plug...
Hi. My name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport. Verify me.
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18485
ffs can they stfu and start the matches?

i hate how they talk for 20 mins, have 20 min commercials, and a 20 min player intro between games.
Jedi Master
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany185 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18486
I can't believe how they can fill so much time with offtopic.
♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥ Moletrap ♥
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18487
On July 09 2011 13:19 travis wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:18 BlueWreck wrote:
god damn poor select, they are giving him 0 love, its all white ra this white ra that


i cannot blame them lol


they should show select singing. instant fans.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#18488
On July 09 2011 12:59 Wuff wrote:
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That's how DarkForce defends the expansion from stripper rush.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18489
On July 09 2011 13:19 Jedi Master wrote:
I can't believe how they can fill so much time with offtopic.


They're the best.
loklok
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany161 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18490
On July 09 2011 13:19 MechKing wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:18 Ramuh wrote:
On July 09 2011 13:18 julianto wrote:
On July 09 2011 13:17 Ramuh wrote:
Oh god damnit its so stupidly late currently, but i really want to watch these games

Yeah it's 9:30 here in the west coast


6am

At least you guys have GSL at a reasonable hour :S


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18491
Every time we sit here... I am reminded one thing that could help rid us of this pointlessness.

Play... the videos after the intros... do the settings, while the videos are playing.
Ramuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany238 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18492
On July 09 2011 13:19 MechKing wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:18 Ramuh wrote:
On July 09 2011 13:18 julianto wrote:
On July 09 2011 13:17 Ramuh wrote:
Oh god damnit its so stupidly late currently, but i really want to watch these games

Yeah it's 9:30 here in the west coast


6am

At least you guys have GSL at a reasonable hour :S


Yeah, like 10am when we have to work and stuff
Ultimate Weapon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States132 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18493
Enough takling! Time to play!
God Young Ho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18494
Yeah that myth is terrible.

Look up Jan Ove Waldner on youtube or wikipedia whatever. At 40 years old he was the sickest tabletennis player in the world and thats a very very demanding sport for hand sensitivity and eye-to-hand cordination.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18495
On July 09 2011 13:09 ggrrg wrote:
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On July 09 2011 13:01 Namu wrote:
On July 09 2011 12:58 ggrrg wrote:
On July 09 2011 12:45 iamthedave wrote:
On July 09 2011 12:41 stormchaser wrote:
Darkforce is amazingly good.


No he's not. He played two incredibly long games against a Terran who made massive mistakes on a minute-by-minute basis and has apparently never heard of a ghost let alone practiced using them.

Alive is only good in the first five-ten minutes when he can abuse marine stutter micro.


Yeah right, alive is just some scrub that cannot micro a few units for an easy win -.-
Your post is simply atrocious. Alive is an incredible player and even though he made a few mistakes, he did not play bad in any way. Darkforce was able to hold the early aggression and knew when to sacrifice economy in order to not allow the terran to roll him during the midgame. Even though Darkforce might not be mechanilly as good as most Korean zergs (and some foreigners), he showed an incredible game sense and desicion making during his games.
And please don't forget that alive was considered the best player on fou by all of his teammeates who were interviewed during GSL. And obviously, he is decent enough to be the runner-up of the stacked NASL open tournament.


wait what? alive is in TSL.
anyways, alive is definitely a top tier player, but everyone can have an off day. he did not play too well today. he was in the lead the second game, but multiple failed drops, a baneling jackpot, and a fungal jackpot won darkforce the game. then third game the huge engagement in the middle of the map was just badly executed, weird marine movement, late siege, on creep, etc
he is definitely a better player than what he showed today...


alive is currently in TSL after he got picked up from fou.
the "mistakes" you attribute to him are in fact often seen in the GSL and can hardly be called mistakes: You can spread marines only that much when dozens of banelings are streaming in; When you move out of course the zerg will try to stop you before you have your tanks sieged. Not to mention that his drops in game two did a lot of damage. The mistake he made there was that he should have stopped doing drops after the mutas popped out.
I share your opinion that alive can play better, but in no way was he playing bad today. Darkforce had a perfect decision making, played safely and capitalized on every small mistake alive made.



I strongly disagree. I feel that Alive played pretty badly and honestly Darkforce had a pretty easy win in the 3rd game.

Before people crucify me for saying that, let me just elaborate on my argument. Perhaps a more experienced player can totally prove me wrong, but for now, I'm convinced that Alive straight up played terribly.

As far as I know, you have to pressure Zerg. Or he'll just expand all over the map, and have so many resources that he can replenish his army over and over again (not that it mattered, because Alive handled every engagement so badly that Darkforce ended up ahead in supply in many of those engagements. No EMPs on infestors, which was CRITICAL. We know players at Alive's level are capable of great EMPs - Byun vs. Zenio is a great example of that. But Alive just let himself get fungled into oblivion).

Anyway, a huge digression there. After that heavy helion opening, Alive literally sat on his ass, let Darkforce spread creep all over the map, and expand all over the place, while Alive turtled to 200. I'm not even a good player, but I'm pretty sure you're really NOT supposed to do that. Darkforce didn't have to deal with ANY sort of harassment after Alive's opening. He was able to comfortably drone up, pump out units, expand everywhere, spread creep everywhere, and Alive just turtled all the way to 200/200. Then when the battles began, all Darkforce had to do is cast fungal everywhere, which isn't hard to do. I'm not trying to downplay DarkForce's battle management, but I honestly think AoE spells in general are easy to do (I'm a Toss player who loves HT play, and yeah... Fungals and Storms are simply easy to pull off, even though people love to hype them whenever they're casted. Press key -> click). From there, it looked like DarkForce a-moved to crush Alive's army because Alive just doesn't know how to EMP infestors.

If someone can explain why Alive did what he did and failed so hard at EMPing other than "he just messed up really badly", then I'm genuinely curious to hear an explanation.

Bottom line: Darkforce played fine - he macroed well, and he had free reign to fungal everything since Alive seemed to not have the ability to EMP anything. But Alive didn't make Darkforce really fall under any pressure after the hellion opening. He left DarkForce to just macro and creep spread comfortably all the way until they were both maxed, and then failed all the battles really badly by not EMPing anything. A deserved win for sure, but not very impressive to me since I perceive Alive as playing really badly.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18496
Both players are in the booth. Why it is taking them so long to start the game?
Terran
Jedi Master
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany185 Posts
July 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#18497
Don't hurry! It's only 6:20am here, I have time ...not! I only want so see MC, damn! I think it will take another 3hrs to see MC vs Boxer.
♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥ Moletrap ♥
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#18498
On July 09 2011 13:19 svi wrote:
ffs can they stfu and start the matches?

i hate how they talk for 20 mins, have 20 min commercials, and a 20 min player intro between games.


They are waiting on WhiteRa
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#18499
sweet, had to go to sleep as this was starting. It's till running 10 hours later! :D Boxer vs MC gogogo
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#18500
On July 09 2011 13:20 Mordiford wrote:
Every time we sit here... I am reminded one thing that could help rid us of this pointlessness.

Play... the videos after the intros... do the settings, while the videos are playing.

too much....logic...
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