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On July 05 2011 21:30 Seditary wrote:
Loving that banshee placement by Supernova lol.
thor is here
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On July 05 2011 21:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
is that a pdd?
supernova is using Ravens?
He has had one for ages
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On July 05 2011 21:30 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW. He can win more Starleagues
How will beating people who he has already beaten show his prowess(hunting for right word). Hes beaten and even sometimes been beaten by them before it doenst seem like anyone is going to rise up to there BW level because people who could saw easier money/lighter schedule/kespa hate and moved on.
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Wowza. Great move by Keen.
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I see this bionic style dying out soon honestly. you need so much multitasking to actually beat a full mech terran, and even then the mech terran can still shut down drops with good missile turrets and motion sensors.
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Get BCs Supernova 
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On July 05 2011 21:33 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:30 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW. He can win more Starleagues How will beating people who he has already beaten show his prowess(hunting for right word). Hes beaten and even sometimes been beaten by them before it doenst seem like anyone is going to rise up to there BW level because people who could saw easier money/lighter schedule/kespa hate and moved on.
You act like there's no up-and-comers or rookies....
Plus, he's 12-12 vs. Stork. He can still beat him more.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
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On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW.
It'd be kind of hard to say Flash isn't greater than Nada when/if he has 2 more major titles and nearly 100 more wins as well as a better winning percentage. Right now, though, Nada is a greater figure in broodwar than Flash.
To the guy who talked about level of skill: It's all relative, yes Flash is a more talented player than Nada, but that's not really the comparison. Relative talent =/= greatness. Bill Russell is a greater player than Shaq, even if Shaq would completely dominate him on the court etc.
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Strategic nukes, nice
Make the opponent unsiege, then charge in
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I feel like Keen is queuing up a brunch of units in each of his production facilities, he is not expanding, he does not have a larger army, where did the money go
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I like the direction the TVT metagame is shifting.
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Man, TvT is such a great matchup. Mech vs Bio/Tank is a blast to watch.
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Compare this TvT game with the ones in Dreamhack. Seems like the Korean scene is miles ahead of the foreigner scene.
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On July 05 2011 21:36 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
I feel like Keen is queuing up a brunch of units in each of his production facilities, he is not expanding, he does not have a larger army, where did the money go
Well he's not expanding. He doesn't have a whole lot of money to play with in the first place.
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People floating 1k+ gas makes me cry.
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Keen is actually not playing this right, normally the one with an immobile army like supernova should be the one thats starving, now its the opposite.
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On July 05 2011 21:34 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:33 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:30 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:
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Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW. He can win more Starleagues How will beating people who he has already beaten show his prowess(hunting for right word). Hes beaten and even sometimes been beaten by them before it doenst seem like anyone is going to rise up to there BW level because people who could saw easier money/lighter schedule/kespa hate and moved on. You act like there's no up-and-comers or rookies.... Plus, he's 12-12 vs. Stork. He can still beat him more.
I act like there arent as many up and comers as there once were. Also if I remmeber August is coming and that means a decent amount of people leaving BW draining the talent pool more.
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