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On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers.
Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying.
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On July 05 2011 21:22 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:20 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:19 Eufouria wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Eufouria wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins In terms of starleague titles. I believe Boxer still has the most wins. Nah boxer doesn't, he hasn't played all that many games compared to the most. lolwhat? You'd be wrong, Jaedong right now holds the record for most number of wins in official BW matches - 394 surpassing NaDa's old record of 390. That was more in response to the guy saying Boxer hasn't played many games when he has almost 1000.
Yeah, he hasn't played even close to the amount of games Nada or Jaedong have played, and in relation to his active progaming career, he indeed hasn't played that many games. Go look it up.
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On July 05 2011 21:17 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins In terms of starleague titles. I believe Boxer still has the most wins.
Jaedong has the most wins, and I didn't mean starleague titles
Nada and Flash are tied for most Star Leagues, at 3 OSLs and 3 MSLs
Jaedong has the most overall wins, and has 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2011 21:22 Dreamer.T wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Indeed, no one has been consistently winning as Nada. Dude is truly amazing.
Well said  And he is showing this in SC2 too
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Decent play by Supernova so far
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On July 05 2011 21:23 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:22 Eufouria wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:19 Eufouria wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Eufouria wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins In terms of starleague titles. I believe Boxer still has the most wins. Nah boxer doesn't, he hasn't played all that many games compared to the most. lolwhat? You'd be wrong, Jaedong right now holds the record for most number of wins in official BW matches - 394 surpassing NaDa's old record of 390. That was more in response to the guy saying Boxer hasn't played many games when he has almost 1000. Yeah, he hasn't played even close to the amount of games Nada or Jaedong have played, and in relation to his active progaming career, he indeed hasn't played that many games. Go look it up.
Slightly old list, Jaedong has 20 more wins, but most of them on the list won't have changed:
+ Show Spoiler +Total / Wins / Losses
(Z)Jaedong 551전 376승 175패 68.2%
(T)NaDa 629전 375승 254패 59.6%
(T)Flash 479전 343승 136패 71.6%
(P)Stork 534전 321승 213패 60.1%
(P)Bisu 473전 306승 167패 64.7%
(T)Sea 423전 255승 168패 60.3%
(T)BoxeR 462전 253승 209패 54.8%
(Z)YellOw 414전 228승 186패 55.1%
(T)XellOs 398전 225승 173패 56.5%
(T)Light 381전 210승 171패 55.1%
(P)free 370전 209승 161패 56.5%
(P)Kal 376전 209승 167패 55.6%
(Z)July 372전 208승 164패 55.9%
(T)iloveoov 334전 203승 131패 60.8%
(T)Fantasy 329전 201승 128패 61.1%
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Ok can we plz stop talking about progamer wins in BW?
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On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying.
I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous year that surpassed Nada's best, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers.
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That Raven full of PDDs will help out against any possible Marauders to counter the Mech
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On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers.
Isn't the skill level way higher now than it was earlier on?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers.
I'm too used to seeing as a guardian that I thought you were chef for a second...
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On July 05 2011 21:26 DisaFear wrote:
That Raven full of PDDs will help out against any possible Marauders to counter the Mech
Yeah he should just make Marines, they're all right vs mech, might need Vikings or medivac drops, though.
I don't think Keen is looking to break the mech army anytime soon and hence doesn't need a counter to it. I'm pretty sure his gameplan is to harrass and outexpand his immobile opponent, avoiding direct confrontation.
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On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers.
What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW.
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On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous year that surpassed Nada's best, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers.
Like I said, "soon." - all contingent upon his health, of course.
Edit: and seriously, if Flash maintains his 70+% winning rate, and wins another Starleague...I'm sorry, but even the most hardcore Nada enthusiasts will have to bow down to Flash. Winning in different eras means nothing if Flash continues his success non-stop.
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On July 05 2011 21:28 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 21:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:23 Qaatar wrote:On July 05 2011 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 05 2011 21:18 tangwhat wrote:On July 05 2011 21:17 Gao Xi wrote:On July 05 2011 21:16 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 21:15 Dreamer.T wrote:
Nada isn't the most successful brood war player (along with Flash) for nothing. Jaedong has more wins Yep and Flash has the same number of Championship titles Yeah but JD had to overtake NaDa's record and Flash shares NaDa's championship count. So NaDa is still technically more successful than Flash or JD(for now). On the other hand JD does hold the most number of ace match wins over anyone else and I don't even remember NaDa being that good in proleague(compared to Bisu, Flash, JD, Leta). It's like you people don't know what you're talking about and just look at base numbers. Nada won most of his titles in a time where there weren't even half the games played now. That he accrued as many wins as he did despite not playing in this high # of games era is astonishing. He's the greatest player ever for more than his raw numbers. Pretty sure Flash will soon have that title unanimously, if not already. Although, his hand/arm situation seems worrying. I am the hardcorest Flash fan around and I think you're plain stupid if you insinuate Flash is a greater player than Nada. Maybe in another year, but right now if you compare them to their respective eras, it's only obvious that the best players will get more wins than Nada because Nada never had the opportunity to play so many games. Nada's titles also hold up better than Flash's because while Flash put together a monstrous season that matched Nada's best season, Nada continued on to be an amazing player for five more years and won two titles after that. Nada is so much more than numbers. What will a year really add to the assessment of Flash? Im not sure hes going to get any great up and comers to challange him for the top spot and the only that might take Flash down is Flash. I love Flash and consider him just below Nada and unfortunetly for him there isnt anything he can do to get above him in BW.
He can win more Starleagues
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Loving that banshee placement by Supernova lol.
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DENIED
good pdd placement by supernova, like it
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Man oGs has been doing really great in general
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
is that a pdd?
supernova is using Ravens?
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